Matt 1,048 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Holland is being interviewed on WDFN right now and the blueline logjam was brought up... The Wings won't make a move until camp time, and anyone (obviously) out of the top four will be available. He doesn't expect to have any problems dealing any of those players due to the low salaries ($1.25m and below). He also added he expects Drake to retire, and if not, it sounded like the Wings have moved on regardless... On Zetterberg: Doesn't anticipate talking contract until training camp when he can sit down with both Hank and his agent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Sweet, thanks man...I couldn't get the stream to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I'm uncomfortable with all this "log-jam" speak. I love that our young guys have great potential but I'm not sure if they're ready yet. And Lebda and Lilja seem to each be half a player. Together they're great, but I'm not sure I can pick one over the other, they each bring something to the table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Thanks for the update. Holland will have no problem moving our bottom Dmen. There will be plenty of teams looking to shore up their holes during training camp or pre-season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I dont think they'll trade Lilja now, but I could see a Lebda/Meech package being offered to teams. Fast, smallerish d-man with offensive upside, will only cost 1.2 or 1.3 mil combined. I imagine they'd only move for draft picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
detroit4life 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 As long as Lebda goes for someone more physical, I'll be happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,048 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 As long as Lebda goes for someone more physical, I'll be happy. If he "goes" he's just going to "go" -- likely a draft pick in return, since the Wings would be looking for roster space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 If he "goes" he's just going to "go" -- likely a draft pick in return, since the Wings would be looking for roster space. Yeah, I'd take a draft pick for Lebda. Meech, like some have said, is similar to Lebda in style of play, but with more potential. So we keep Meech, unload Lebda. We don't have room for a straight-up trade, or else the trade wouldn't be happening in the first place. So unless we trade two D for one player, it'll be for draft picks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Didn't Lilja already get signed by Toronto under the alias Jeff Finger? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I dont think they'll trade Lilja now, but I could see a Lebda/Meech package being offered to teams. Fast, smallerish d-man with offensive upside, will only cost 1.2 or 1.3 mil combined. I imagine they'd only move for draft picks. They wouldn't have traded him anyway. Again, he was signed a couple days ago and the last thing you do is sign and trade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 Did anybody catch what he said about Flip, if anything? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvxp 0 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 As long as Lebda goes for someone more physical, I'll be happy. :thumbup: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LidstromIsASuperhero 29 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I feel like we could trade both of them in favor of a meech/ericcson combo as our bottom pairing. We'd have a savvy veteran in Chelios and a steady youngster in Quincey available even after that. Don't forget about kindl, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted July 2, 2008 I'm uncomfortable with all this "log-jam" speak. I love that our young guys have great potential but I'm not sure if they're ready yet. And Lebda and Lilja seem to each be half a player. Together they're great, but I'm not sure I can pick one over the other, they each bring something to the table. That's why they are 3rd pairing D-men Whoever loses out in camp, I doubt we'll get very much for them when the rest of the league knows the predicament we are in. Think Burke trying to trade Bryzgalov or dump Fedorov. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,207 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 No surprises here. I could easily see Meech supplanting Lebda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dump-N-Thump Report post Posted July 3, 2008 i dont mind getting draft picks.. Ledba,Lilja,Meech,Quincey,Big Rig,Chelios. If we can turn anyone of those guys into 4th or 5th round draft picks, i wouldn't mind turning a Lebda into a Zetterberg Should be a fun Training camp alot of competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Dump-N-Thump Report post Posted July 3, 2008 I've asked this a few times before...How exactly does Meech have 'more potential' than Lebda when it's Lebda that's playing in Detroit? Maybe I'm missing something others must see Lebda has been a wing for awhile now, But hasn't been anything more then number 5/6 and hes had the opportunity to be number 4 and he failed.. Which tells me he is nothing more then a career 5/6 d-man Meech on the other hand, Beat out Lebda for PP time when all the d-men went down injured. Meech has shown the willingness to get dirty, and also a knack for finding a good shotting lane and making the reliable pass.. Meech shown me atleast a better shot selection then what Lebda has.. We haven't had the opportunity to see Meech, and he has'nt been given the opportunity to become a better player, which leads many people to assume has more potential Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 As long as Lebda goes for someone more physical, I'll be happy. How can anyone be unhappy with any aspect of this team. Greed unbound. I've asked this a few times before...How exactly does Meech have 'more potential' than Lebda when it's Lebda that's playing in Detroit? Maybe I'm missing something others must see You are missing something, Lebda has wheels for sure. Beyond that he is pretty standard. I personally think Lebda moves faster when moving up the ice then moving back. Meech makes a better pass, has better on ice awareness in the offensive zone, his foot work laterally is better, has better hands, and a better shot. I will say that right now Lebda has better poise and defensive positioning, if he was only more patient. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 I dont follow the AHL very much but I'm thinking that Grand Rapids is going to have a pretty solid team next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 As long as Lebda goes for someone more physical, I'll be happy. Yea because everybody knows D-men have to be physical to be any good. Just ask the people that vote for the Norris every year.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 Yea because everybody knows D-men have to be physical to be any good. Just ask the people that vote for the Norris every year.... Physical bottom defenceman>Skillful bottom defenceman. I see trading Lebda as a great idea, not that I want him gone, just then you have Meech, Quincey and Chelios to sub in and out depending on the opponent. If were playing say the Habs, you probably want Meech or Chelios in there, if were playing the Lightning, you probably want Chelios in there, if were playing Anaheim, your gonna want Quincey in there. It's never a bad thing to have too many defenceman though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earthhuman 8 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 People write Lebda off so easily. The Wings have put years of work into this guy. He knows the NHL game. He played with Chelios. He's a great character guy. He said "f***" on live television. But Meech might turn into something better. Hmm. I like Lebda for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miller76 463 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 Sweet, thanks man...I couldn't get the stream to work. point it straight out, It will eventually stream on its own! lol, sorry couldn't help myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,963 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 Ericsson will stay in Grand Rapids for one last year, and Lebda will be traded. Meech and Quincey have more value than Lebda, and Holland said he'll carry 8 defensemen this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted July 3, 2008 I have no doubt Quincey will be traded, which IMO is a real shame. We have better defensive prospects, but he's a sure bet to be a good 15 minutes a night defenceman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
