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#1 mindfly

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 06:27 AM

"Who wants to live in Detroit?" said Oilers general manager Kevin Lowe. "What this week has done has put us back on the map. As someone said to me the other day, 'I'm sure there was a time in the '80s when everyone wanted to play in Edmonton.'

"Detroit is like that now -- and we want to get there. We want to get to a place where there are no challenges."


Wtf come on :/


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Posted 07 July 2008 - 06:36 AM

i'm not sure what context this was said in...it sounds like he's saying that because detroit is so good, they get players (e.g. hossa) who will do anything to play there...and that that is a positive thing that his organization aspires to. but, if he's talking about something else, then i'm not sure what he's getting at, or what you mean by "does it again." maybe i'm just missing something here...

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 06:36 AM

How about a link or something so we can understand the context this was said in. Where did this come from?
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:12 AM

Why does he think that the Oilers are "back on the map?" What have the Oilers done since July 1?

As for the "who wants to live in Detroit?" question... people who want to be winners want to live here.

Who wants to live in Edmonton is the better question.

Edited by Wings_Dynasty, 07 July 2008 - 07:13 AM.

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:16 AM

I am just guessing because there is no context here, but I think the "Who wants to live in Detroit" part was being said sarcastically, because the rest of what he said was complimentary of the team.

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:23 AM

Here:
http://www.faceoff.c...13-5f22ec96f312

Lowe did not say anything wrong.

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 07:47 AM

He's basically saying that people probably don't really want to LIVE in Detroit (who can blame them) but are willing to so they can play with one of the best organizations in all of sports. It was a compliment to the Red Wings.

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:19 AM

QUOTE (Copenhagen848 @ July 7, 2008 - 08:47AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's basically saying that people probably don't really want to LIVE in Detroit (who can blame them) but are willing to so they can play with one of the best organizations in all of sports. It was a compliment to the Red Wings.


Lowe used to play for the Red Wigns, before he got traded to Edmonton in the 80's. If anyone knows about Detroit and winning organization it's him. Lowe is too much of a class act to slam any city. Burke on the other hand is a petty sniveling moron.



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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:27 AM

Lowe is garbage.
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:34 AM

But none of the players actually live in the city and none are expected. Any of the Kings live in LA? Hell no they live in Beverly Hill or Bel Air or somewhere. I don't think he meant anything by it but lets not get into another Jimmy Kimmel thing again. As for the challenge part I think he meant that they have it easier being so good, that people basically just come to them, at least thats my guess.

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE (BlueMonk @ July 7, 2008 - 09:27AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lowe is garbage.

And you base that on???

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:40 AM

QUOTE (bellarina @ July 7, 2008 - 09:37AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And you base that on???


Just in the past few years: The Pronger trade, the Ryan Smythe negotiations, the Penner signing, the Souray signing, etc.

The "who wants to live in Detroit?" comment is annoying, too.
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:48 AM

QUOTE (BlueMonk @ July 7, 2008 - 08:40AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just in the past few years: The Pronger trade, the Ryan Smythe negotiations, the Penner signing, the Souray signing, etc.

The "who wants to live in Detroit?" comment is annoying, too.

While I don't argue Lowe is garbage, I don't think he was really trashing Detroit on that comment. I think his point was that there are nicer cities that a hockey player could choose from, but given that they still pick Detroit over the others and for a discount.

Perhaps he was offsides with the "Who wants to live in Detroit" comment, but his point was that Kenny and Co. have done a stellar job.
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 08:55 AM

He could have made that point without taking a shot at Detroit. Ask the players who live in Birmingham and West Bloomfield what their quality of life is.

Lowe and Burke deserve each other. Can you imagine Ken Holland making comments like that?
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 09:04 AM

QUOTE (BlueMonk @ July 7, 2008 - 08:55AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He could have made that point without taking a shot at Detroit. Ask the players who live in Birmingham and West Bloomfield what their quality of life is.

Lowe and Burke deserve each other. Can you imagine Ken Holland making comments like that?

That's true, but most people make comments about Detroit not knowing that the players themselves don't live in the city. Again, I'm not defending it, but I believe the point of what he was making had very little to do with the quality of life the players are living.

BTW, I agree that Kenny would never make a comment of the sort.

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Edited by Never Forget Mac #25, 07 July 2008 - 09:08 AM.

It's amazing how much clarity comes when you care more about the Red Wings than any individual player.


"They are the best team in the world. They are a team that can just take over when they want to," Chicago's Patrick Kane said (of the Detroit Red Wings).

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE (StevieY9802 @ July 7, 2008 - 09:34AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But none of the players actually live in the city and none are expected. Any of the Kings live in LA? Hell no they live in Beverly Hill or Bel Air or somewhere. I don't think he meant anything by it but lets not get into another Jimmy Kimmel thing again. As for the challenge part I think he meant that they have it easier being so good, that people basically just come to them, at least thats my guess.


Thats right...sorta. Beverl hills is in L.A down the street from Hollywood (which is part of L.A)
Do they live in East L.A? or Compton? most likely not. Same with Detroit. Detroit might not be a very nice place to live, But that does not really matter. It's places like Birmingham, Royal Oak, Novi, Ferndale, Beverly Hills (MI) and various other Oakland and Wayne county places that people live and hang out in. It seems everyone not from here thinks we all live in the city of detroit and use there schools and so on. It just shows they don't really know what they are talking about when they speak of Michigan, much less detroit.

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Posted 07 July 2008 - 11:43 AM

QUOTE (BlueMonk @ July 7, 2008 - 09:40AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just in the past few years: The Pronger trade, the Ryan Smythe negotiations, the Penner signing, the Souray signing, etc.

The "who wants to live in Detroit?" comment is annoying, too.


Even people in Michigan don't want to live in Detroit, so it's an accurate statement.
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 11:46 AM

To Mindfly. What exactly has Lowe done again? Complement Detroit as an orginization. He is drawing parralells to Edm and Det as a city in which very few people want to live in, which is true whether it be the climate the economey or corrupt mayor. He is saying players come there to play Hockey, which is true.

It was a compliment

QUOTE (Copenhagen848 @ July 7, 2008 - 08:47AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He's basically saying that people probably don't really want to LIVE in Detroit (who can blame them) but are willing to so they can play with one of the best organizations in all of sports. It was a compliment to the Red Wings.


thumbup.gif Honestly half these posters make me wonder sometimes. It's as if they cant figure anything out...

QUOTE (BlueMonk @ July 7, 2008 - 09:40AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just in the past few years: The Pronger trade, the Ryan Smythe negotiations, the Penner signing, the Souray signing, etc.

The "who wants to live in Detroit?" comment is annoying, too.


None were really his fault except Ryan Smyth negotations.

Pronger Trade: Pronger apparently had an affair and needed to get out of Edmonten regardless of the cost as the fiasco was tearing the team apart. Lowe actually got very good return under the cirumstances.

Ryan Smyth Negotations: Lowe was lied to by Smyth. Anyone who says Smyth wanted to stay in EDM, is ignorant of the situation or a liar. Smyth was traded over a disagreement of around 100k. While Lowe coudlve bit the bullet, it sets a bad standard to other palyers and Smyth could ahve just as easily taken 100k less.

Penner:The oilers got SHUT OUT in free agency due to no one wanting to come. Nylander had even said verbally hed sign but his wife made him sign in Washington for less money. The oilers were out of options. Ditto for the souray deal. Do you really think they were Lowes first choice? Honestly even look at Edm this off season they offered BOATLOADS more money to Hossa and we still got them . They Offered over market value to Jagr too, but he didnt budge. people just dont want to go to EDM and thats a hard sell when your a gm
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Posted 07 July 2008 - 11:46 AM

What's wrong with detroit??? comparing to like other cities with same size etc? Maybe it's hard for swedes to understand, can you explain any further? cause otherwise it was a really narrow statement by Lowe imo...

Edited by mindfly, 07 July 2008 - 11:48 AM.


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Posted 07 July 2008 - 11:54 AM

QUOTE (mindfly @ July 7, 2008 - 12:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What's wrong with detroit??? comparing to like other cities with same size etc? Maybe it's hard for swedes to understand, can you explain any further? cause otherwise it was a really narrow statement by Lowe imo...


Oh im sorry, i didnt know you werent a detroiter. May I ask how your awlays up this late if your in sweden ahhaha? not doubting just wondering.

As for your question, I know im going to get flamed for this but here you go. The City of Detroit, along with the whole state of Michigan is in a deep recession, lowering property values, and pretty muchf****** up their economey. Detroit itself has been a s***hole of a city for a long time. Very few people with money live in downtown detroit they all commute from one of our nice suburan areas. Areas such as Bloomfield hills, the Novi/Northville area, ect. Also, the whether when compared to other states is s*** in the winter. Sure snow is nice for a bit but In michigan it stays so cold that the snow never seems to go away and it gets all sludgy and dirty. Not sure if i should be telling u that as u probably have it worse in sweden (whther wise)but oh well ahha
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