RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 last I heard he was talking with the flyers but comcast sportsnet said that the flyers were looking for a long term and Shanahan didnt want that, plus they were pretty much capped out. Whats his deal will he sign somewhere or does he gracefully bow out of the NHL 50 goals shy of 700? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 He got an offer from the KHL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 if thats the case he should just retire and bow out gracefully. He's allready a lock got the HOF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 last I heard he was talking with the flyers but comcast sportsnet said that the flyers were looking for a long term and Shanahan didnt want that, plus they were pretty much capped out. Whats his deal will he sign somewhere or does he gracefully bow out of the NHL 50 goals shy of 700? Kudos for you not suggesting he come here. That was my fear. I'm sure someone will pick up Shanny. He's a lovable guy. Hopefully it's not Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greekman29 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anomalously 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship. He said the Wings were getting younger. That the nucleus of the team was Zetterberg, Datsyuk, not Shanahan, Yzerman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 (edited) shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship. He didn't say the Wings were rebuilding, unless you can provide a link to some article I missed. It's not like he was insulting the team and thought they would be bad the next year. He said he was more connected with the past than the present of this team, and just felt that it was time to move on. I think he was right on the money with that one. The Wings needed a new identity to take it to the next level, and it'd be harder to do that with Shanny around. He didn't leave for more money. If memory serves the Wings offered him a two-year deal, the first year for $4 million, which is what he took from the Rangers for a one-year deal. The money was the same. Actually the Rangers deal had less security because it was shorter term. Edited July 12, 2008 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 He didn't say the Wings were rebuilding, unless you can provide a link to some article I missed. It's not like he was insulting the team and thought they would be bad the next year. He said he was more connected with the past than the present of this team, and just felt that it was time to move on. I think he was right on the money with that one. The Wings needed a new identity to take it to the next level, and it'd be harder to do that with Shanny around. He didn't leave for more money. If memory serves the Wings offered him a two-year deal, the first year for $4 million, which is what he took from the Rangers for a one-year deal. The money was the same. Actually the Rangers deal had less security because it was shorter term. I think you're right. Never been a huge fan of his.....but he knows his role in hockey. He's a hired gun and that is FINE. He's good. "I said to Glen that I wasn't trying to bust the door to get out of Detroit," Shanahan said. > article Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAWingsfan25 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 I have always been a huge Shanahan fan, and I wish him luck wherever he goes. I guess I give him a lot of credit for being able to look at the situation and realize that it was time to move on. I think its funny how we fault one player for making that decision to move on while at the very same time we are telling another player what he should do with his career. (insert every "Cheli you need to retire and give the younger guys a chance" comment here. I guess it just doesn't make sense to me. I hate seeing Shanny in a Rangers jersey, but to me he will always be a wing, and I respect him for that. Good Luck to you Shanny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airborn 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 I think you're right. Never been a huge fan of his.....but he knows his role in hockey. He's a hired gun and that is FINE. He's good. Hired gun! He spent 9 years here, winning 3 cups and scoring over 300 goals. I hardly think that qualifies as being a hired gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship. Your right Shanahan did leave Detroit on a SOAR note, as in on a high, as a hero, on good terms. He didn't however leave the team on a SOUR note. If I'm not mistaken he said that he and Stevie sat down together and had a long conversation about it. His other reason for leaving was being closer to home. Shanahan lives in NJ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 Hired gun! He spent 9 years here, winning 3 cups and scoring over 300 goals. I hardly think that qualifies as being a hired gun. I understand your numbers. And I've been over this before. When the Wings picked him up in what? 96? There were MANY FA guns on the market that would've scored goals. I'd list the players, but I am too lazy. He came, scored and went. He knows his role. It's not that big of a deal to be called a hired gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest nutz2u Report post Posted July 12, 2008 Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I believe he left because he didn't want to work his ass off as Babcock demands. For 3 years prior to the last that he was with the Wings he was a floater looking for the one timer. Babcock made him work his ass off the last year is the only reason he had 40 goals. Didn't bother me at all when he left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 12, 2008 Your right Shanahan did leave Detroit on a SOAR note, as in on a high, as a hero... .... and after completely and utterly choking in the '06 playoffs? By the way, Shanahan does NOT live in New Jersey. He lives in Manhattan, and before that he lived on the outskirts of Detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 When the Wings picked him up in what? 96? There were MANY FA guns on the market that would've scored goals. I'd list the players, but I am too lazy. HE wasn't "picked up", he was traded for. Keith Primeau, Paul Coffey and a 1st round pick went to the Whalers ... after the 1996-1997 season began, so I'm guessing there wasn't "MANY FA guns on the market" at that point ... right? You're "too lazy" to list the FA guns that could've been signed after the season began, yet you still want to argue the point? Failure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 .... and after completely and utterly choking in the '06 playoffs? By the way, Shanahan does NOT live in New Jersey. He lives in Manhattan, and before that he lived on the outskirts of Detroit. Shanahan has his off season home in the same neighborhood as Afleck and Kevin Smith in New Jersey. He may also own homes in Manhattan and Detroit for all I know. And one season does not make a career. He certainly didn't leave on bad terms. Maybe some were hurt by his decision, but no one likes to be rejected... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airborn 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 I understand your numbers. And I've been over this before. When the Wings picked him up in what? 96? There were MANY FA guns on the market that would've scored goals. I'd list the players, but I am too lazy. He came, scored and went. He knows his role. It's not that big of a deal to be called a hired gun. Sorry, I guess we just use the term differently. I don't consider someone who switches teams after 9 years a hired gun, but I guess Gretzky and Hull must fall into that category for you as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
therock48880 14 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 (edited) This rather short thread is full of incorrect info. Shanahan and Wings mgt. had a mutual parting and it was not "soar" or sour at all. He signed for equal or less money in NY than the Wings had offered. Shanahan was not a free agent acquisition and was traded for and finally, a hired gun is generally somoene who is with a team a short period of time, wins, and moves on. Shanahan was in Detroit a long period of time, won three cups and moved on. That's not a hired gun. There, now I can say that I have less than zero interest in him returning to the Wings. Edited July 12, 2008 by therock48880 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim3033 1 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 It sucks Shanahan left but I agree that maybe he didn't fit with the new team as well as the old team of the late 90's. Would Shanahan come back to Detroit for 500K-ish on a one year deal? Or would that be taking away too much from our younger players? Shanny-Hossa-Franzen Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Filppula-Hudler-Cleary Draper-Kopecky-Sammy Maltby/Helm You would have 3 very dangerous lines and you could randomly split up zetterberg and datsyuk. Shanny could play on the 3rd line some nights to help improve our younger players. You could have the top two lines compete for top line. Filppula-Hudler-Cleary could be a really, really good line this year. or.. Hossa-Zetterberg-Datsyuk Shanahan-Filppula-Franzen Hudler-Cleary-Holmstrom Draper-Maltby-Sammy We'd be scoring goals every few minutes I'm pretty sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louisville 112 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 Sorry, I guess we just use the term differently. I don't consider someone who switches teams after 9 years a hired gun, but I guess Gretzky and Hull must fall into that category for you as well. oh snap! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaKineMaui 8 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 Sorry, I guess we just use the term differently. I don't consider someone who switches teams after 9 years a hired gun, but I guess Gretzky and Hull must fall into that category for you as well. That's all it is I guess. FWIW - As far as Wayne? I don't know - that was an enigma. Never understood why he left the Oil. Big contract (for the day) I guess? Some chick? And Brett? I swear. Yes - Hull would also surely fall into 'my personal' definition as a hired gun. Shanny was NOT a Bertuzzi - I understand - I watched a bit of hockey in the 70s and 80s and 90s and 2000s....I guess I just watch NHL hockey with my heart more than some. Again, for me, before the cap, I watched and saw him play 'as well as he needed to'. That's all I'm saying. And also thought (pre-cap) - "f*** it - you can leave and we can go get another one that looks just like you." That's all. He's good, and I thank him for his services. aloha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 Wayne didn't leave Edmonton he was also traded. He didn't want to leave. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 Kudos for you not suggesting he come here. That was my fear. I'm sure someone will pick up Shanny. He's a lovable guy. Hopefully it's not Russia. Hopefully the "bring back former Wings" cries will die down because we are out of cap space. God I hope so.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brutus 0 Report post Posted July 12, 2008 I understand your numbers. And I've been over this before. When the Wings picked him up in what? 96? There were MANY FA guns on the market that would've scored goals. I'd list the players, but I am too lazy. He came, scored and went. He knows his role. It's not that big of a deal to be called a hired gun. it may not be a big deal but it is an incorrect statement. The term 'hired gun' holds connotations of someone coming in for a short term and leaving to do the same thing somewhere else...it is simply factually incorrect to label Shanahan's time with Detroit as a 'hired gun'...no big deal...perhaps you are too lazy to realize your error, but that does not make it a correct assessment. brutus ps. like another poster before I was so glad to find that this was not a bring Shanny back thread....soooooo glad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted July 13, 2008 shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship. sour were were have had Share this post Link to post Share on other sites