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last I heard he was talking with the flyers but comcast sportsnet said that the flyers were looking for a long term and Shanahan didnt want that, plus they were pretty much capped out. Whats his deal will he sign somewhere or does he gracefully bow out of the NHL 50 goals shy of 700?

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last I heard he was talking with the flyers but comcast sportsnet said that the flyers were looking for a long term and Shanahan didnt want that, plus they were pretty much capped out. Whats his deal will he sign somewhere or does he gracefully bow out of the NHL 50 goals shy of 700?

Kudos for you not suggesting he come here. That was my fear.

I'm sure someone will pick up Shanny. He's a lovable guy. Hopefully it's not Russia.

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shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship.

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shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship.

He said the Wings were getting younger. That the nucleus of the team was Zetterberg, Datsyuk, not Shanahan, Yzerman.

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shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship.

He didn't say the Wings were rebuilding, unless you can provide a link to some article I missed. It's not like he was insulting the team and thought they would be bad the next year. He said he was more connected with the past than the present of this team, and just felt that it was time to move on. I think he was right on the money with that one. The Wings needed a new identity to take it to the next level, and it'd be harder to do that with Shanny around.

He didn't leave for more money. If memory serves the Wings offered him a two-year deal, the first year for $4 million, which is what he took from the Rangers for a one-year deal. The money was the same. Actually the Rangers deal had less security because it was shorter term.

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He didn't say the Wings were rebuilding, unless you can provide a link to some article I missed. It's not like he was insulting the team and thought they would be bad the next year. He said he was more connected with the past than the present of this team, and just felt that it was time to move on. I think he was right on the money with that one. The Wings needed a new identity to take it to the next level, and it'd be harder to do that with Shanny around.

He didn't leave for more money. If memory serves the Wings offered him a two-year deal, the first year for $4 million, which is what he took from the Rangers for a one-year deal. The money was the same. Actually the Rangers deal had less security because it was shorter term.

I think you're right.

Never been a huge fan of his.....but he knows his role in hockey. He's a hired gun and that is FINE. He's good.

"I said to Glen that I wasn't trying to bust the door to get out of Detroit," Shanahan said. > article

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I have always been a huge Shanahan fan, and I wish him luck wherever he goes. I guess I give him a lot of credit for being able to look at the situation and realize that it was time to move on. I think its funny how we fault one player for making that decision to move on while at the very same time we are telling another player what he should do with his career. (insert every "Cheli you need to retire and give the younger guys a chance" comment here. I guess it just doesn't make sense to me. I hate seeing Shanny in a Rangers jersey, but to me he will always be a wing, and I respect him for that.

Good Luck to you Shanny!

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I think you're right.

Never been a huge fan of his.....but he knows his role in hockey. He's a hired gun and that is FINE. He's good.

Hired gun! He spent 9 years here, winning 3 cups and scoring over 300 goals.

I hardly think that qualifies as being a hired gun.

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shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship.

Your right Shanahan did leave Detroit on a SOAR note, as in on a high, as a hero, on good terms. He didn't however leave the team on a SOUR note. If I'm not mistaken he said that he and Stevie sat down together and had a long conversation about it. His other reason for leaving was being closer to home. Shanahan lives in NJ.

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Hired gun! He spent 9 years here, winning 3 cups and scoring over 300 goals.

I hardly think that qualifies as being a hired gun.

I understand your numbers. And I've been over this before. When the Wings picked him up in what? 96? There were MANY FA guns on the market that would've scored goals. I'd list the players, but I am too lazy. He came, scored and went. He knows his role. It's not that big of a deal to be called a hired gun.

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I believe he left because he didn't want to work his ass off as Babcock demands. For 3 years prior to the last that he was with the Wings he was a floater looking for the one timer. Babcock made him work his ass off the last year is the only reason he had 40 goals. Didn't bother me at all when he left.

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Your right Shanahan did leave Detroit on a SOAR note, as in on a high, as a hero...

.... and after completely and utterly choking in the '06 playoffs?

By the way, Shanahan does NOT live in New Jersey. He lives in Manhattan, and before that he lived on the outskirts of Detroit.

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When the Wings picked him up in what? 96? There were MANY FA guns on the market that would've scored goals. I'd list the players, but I am too lazy.

HE wasn't "picked up", he was traded for.

Keith Primeau, Paul Coffey and a 1st round pick went to the Whalers ... after the 1996-1997 season began, so I'm guessing there wasn't "MANY FA guns on the market" at that point ... right?

You're "too lazy" to list the FA guns that could've been signed after the season began, yet you still want to argue the point?

Failure.

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.... and after completely and utterly choking in the '06 playoffs?

By the way, Shanahan does NOT live in New Jersey. He lives in Manhattan, and before that he lived on the outskirts of Detroit.

Shanahan has his off season home in the same neighborhood as Afleck and Kevin Smith in New Jersey. He may also own homes in Manhattan and Detroit for all I know. And one season does not make a career. He certainly didn't leave on bad terms. Maybe some were hurt by his decision, but no one likes to be rejected... :)

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I understand your numbers. And I've been over this before. When the Wings picked him up in what? 96? There were MANY FA guns on the market that would've scored goals. I'd list the players, but I am too lazy. He came, scored and went. He knows his role. It's not that big of a deal to be called a hired gun.

Sorry, I guess we just use the term differently. I don't consider someone who switches teams after 9 years a hired gun, but I guess Gretzky and Hull must fall into that category for you as well.

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This rather short thread is full of incorrect info. Shanahan and Wings mgt. had a mutual parting and it was not "soar" or sour at all. He signed for equal or less money in NY than the Wings had offered. Shanahan was not a free agent acquisition and was traded for and finally, a hired gun is generally somoene who is with a team a short period of time, wins, and moves on. Shanahan was in Detroit a long period of time, won three cups and moved on. That's not a hired gun.

There, now I can say that I have less than zero interest in him returning to the Wings.

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It sucks Shanahan left but I agree that maybe he didn't fit with the new team as well as the old team of the late 90's.

Would Shanahan come back to Detroit for 500K-ish on a one year deal? Or would that be taking away too much from our younger players?

Shanny-Hossa-Franzen

Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Holmstrom

Filppula-Hudler-Cleary

Draper-Kopecky-Sammy

Maltby/Helm

You would have 3 very dangerous lines and you could randomly split up zetterberg and datsyuk. Shanny could play on the 3rd line some nights to help improve our younger players.

You could have the top two lines compete for top line.

Filppula-Hudler-Cleary could be a really, really good line this year.

or..

Hossa-Zetterberg-Datsyuk

Shanahan-Filppula-Franzen

Hudler-Cleary-Holmstrom

Draper-Maltby-Sammy

We'd be scoring goals every few minutes I'm pretty sure.

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Sorry, I guess we just use the term differently. I don't consider someone who switches teams after 9 years a hired gun, but I guess Gretzky and Hull must fall into that category for you as well.

That's all it is I guess.

FWIW - As far as Wayne? I don't know - that was an enigma. Never understood why he left the Oil. Big contract (for the day) I guess? Some chick?

And Brett? I swear. Yes - Hull would also surely fall into 'my personal' definition as a hired gun.

Shanny was NOT a Bertuzzi - I understand - I watched a bit of hockey in the 70s and 80s and 90s and 2000s....I guess I just watch NHL hockey with my heart more than some.

Again, for me, before the cap, I watched and saw him play 'as well as he needed to'. That's all I'm saying.

And also thought (pre-cap) - "f*** it - you can leave and we can go get another one that looks just like you."

That's all. He's good, and I thank him for his services.

aloha

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Kudos for you not suggesting he come here. That was my fear.

I'm sure someone will pick up Shanny. He's a lovable guy. Hopefully it's not Russia.

Hopefully the "bring back former Wings" cries will die down because we are out of cap space. God I hope so....

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I understand your numbers. And I've been over this before. When the Wings picked him up in what? 96? There were MANY FA guns on the market that would've scored goals. I'd list the players, but I am too lazy. He came, scored and went. He knows his role. It's not that big of a deal to be called a hired gun.

it may not be a big deal but it is an incorrect statement. The term 'hired gun' holds connotations of someone coming in for a short term and leaving to do the same thing somewhere else...it is simply factually incorrect to label Shanahan's time with Detroit as a 'hired gun'...no big deal...perhaps you are too lazy to realize your error, but that does not make it a correct assessment.

brutus

ps. like another poster before I was so glad to find that this was not a bring Shanny back thread....soooooo glad!

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shanahan left detroit on a soar note. he said the wings we're rebuilding. he was wrong. they we're retooling for a championship he could of had. i don't ever want him on the wings again. he left for the money. not to win a championship.

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