Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Doug Gilmour and Wendel Clarke to get their jerseys honoured by the Leafs. You didn't think I was referring to someone else, did ya? http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=244004&...os=topStory_nhl The Toronto Maple Leafs will honour former captains Wendel Clark and Doug Gilmour by raising their numbers to the rafters of the Air Canada Centre this season. Clark will be saluted in pregame ceremonies prior to the Maple Leafs' Nov. 22 game against the Chicago Blackhawks, while Gilmour will be recognized on Jan. 31 prior to the game against the Pittsburgh Penguins. Both guys deserve the honour IMO. Particularly Gilmour. Edited July 22, 2008 by Doggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cicada 4 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 "they're honouring the numbers".. so their number wont actually be retired - they'll still be in circulation, same thing that the habs do... toronto obviously think that they have too many great players in their history to officially retire numbers..how wrong they are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Totally ridiculous. Gilmour did not play long enough as a Leaf and Clark was not star by any means. Edited July 22, 2008 by Reds4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 "they're honouring the numbers".. so their number wont actually be retired - they'll still be in circulation, same thing that the habs do... toronto obviously think that they have too many great players in their history to officially retire numbers..how wrong they are Thanks bro. Fixed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Totally ridiculous. Gilmour did not play long enough as a Leaf and Clark was not star by any means. Gilmour was one of the most popular Leafs of all time. And Clark was no slouch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 "they're honouring the numbers".. so their number wont actually be retired - they'll still be in circulation, same thing that the habs do... toronto obviously think that they have too many great players in their history to officially retire numbers..how wrong they are The Habs take their retired/honored numbers out of circulation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omnipotent_hudler 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 off topic but i'm looking forward to the reaction of this board when 91 goes to the rafters Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 off topic but i'm looking forward to the reaction of this board when 91 goes to the rafters Hey, I'm sure the fans at the Verizon Center will have a ball when that happens! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 off topic but i'm looking forward to the reaction of this board when 91 goes to the rafters You're gonna be waiting for a long time. It won't happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 off topic but i'm looking forward to the reaction of this board when 91 goes to the rafters After Illitch sells the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marcaractac 3,960 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 After Illitch sells the team. DON"T SAY THAT!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 off topic but i'm looking forward to the reaction of this board when 91 goes to the rafters Do the Wings have some amazing new prospect who wears that number?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwinger4747 6 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Do the Wings have some amazing new prospect who wears that number?? I think we'll get Fedor Fedorov, and HIS #91 will go to the rafters. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 You're gonna be waiting for a long time. It won't happen. QFT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Totally ridiculous. Gilmour did not play long enough as a Leaf and Clark was not star by any means. I agree. What exactly did Gilmour and Clark do that was noteworthy? It's not to say they weren't good players, but worthy of honoring a number for? Is this a PR stunt? Tie Domi was also famous as a Leaf. Hope they don't honor 28 or whatever his number was. Edit: And if 91 goes to the rafters in the Joe, I will lose all respect for the organization. But since I have faith in them, I say not a chance in hell. Edited July 22, 2008 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dixi 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Wendel Clarks best thing he did for Toronto was that he was involved in the best trade ever, they got Mats Sundin from Quebec. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Wendel Clarks best thing he did for Toronto was that he was involved in the best trade ever, they got Mats Sundin from Quebec. "Best trade bait evar"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,916 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 ...Clark Totally deserves his number retired by Toronto. Gilmour not so sure, but if you guys believe Gilmour should have his number retired by them, then Feds is a given... ...if you've watched hockey for that past three decades, when you think of Toronto you think of two people. Sundin and Clark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 ...Clark Totally deserves his number retired by Toronto. Gilmour not so sure, but if you guys believe Gilmour should have his number retired by them, then Feds is a given... ...if you've watched hockey for that past three decades, when you think of Toronto you think of two people. Sundin and Clark. OK what did you put in my coffee, I actually agree with you again! Wendl Clark was a heart and soul Maple Leaf, not the best not the worst, my best comparison would be Draper, and IMO the only thing keeping Draper's number out of the rafters is the stringent conditions that Detroit puts on raising numbers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwinger4747 6 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 OK what did you put in my coffee, I actually agree with you again! Wendl Clark was a heart and soul Maple Leaf, not the best not the worst, my best comparison would be Draper, and IMO the only thing keeping Draper's number out of the rafters is the stringent conditions that Detroit puts on raising numbers. Draper? Are you kidding? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Wendl Clark was a heart and soul Maple Leaf, not the best not the worst, my best comparison would be Draper, and IMO the only thing keeping Draper's number out of the rafters is the stringent conditions that Detroit puts on raising numbers. Kris Draper is not the most popular Red Wing of his generation, like Wendel was and still is. Draper also isn't the scorer that Wendel was, nor the fighter or hitter. People often forget how dynamic of a scorer Wendel was in his day because his numbers are low due to how often he was injured. Wendel is the Toronto Maple Leafs all-time playoff goal leader. Wendel Clark sacrificed his body, mind & soul for the Toronto Maple Leafs and the fans have always appreciated him for that. Along with Doug Gilmour, Wendel lead the Leafs out of the Harold Ballard era and made fans proud to be Leaf fans again. That's something that can never be repaid enough times. http://youtube.com/watch?v=EEltpSMTDPM To give an example of how popular Wendel continues to be, here's a story from his final run as a Leaf, in the playoffs in 2000. The Leafs were in a game against the Devils and Brodeur was absolutely shutting the door. Wendel, relegated to 4th line duty at this point, jumped on the ice, took the puck down to Brodeur and ripped one of his famous wristshots off of the crossbar and out of play. This lead to a TV timeout, at which time, Wendel received a 2-minute standing ovation during the entire break. As far as I know, Wendel Clark is the only player to get a standing ovation for hitting the crossbar. Edited July 22, 2008 by MacK_Attack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Kris Draper is not the most popular Red Wing of his generation, like Wendel was and still is. Draper also isn't the scorer that Wendel was, nor the fighter or hitter. People often forget how dynamic of a scorer Wendel was in his day because his numbers are low due to how often he was injured. Wendel is the Toronto Maple Leafs all-time playoff goal leader. Wendel Clark sacrificed his body, mind & soul for the Toronto Maple Leafs and the fans have always appreciated him for that. Along with Doug Gilmour, Wendel lead the Leafs out of the Harold Ballard era and made fans proud to be Leaf fans again. That's something that can never be repaid enough times. To give an example of how popular Wendel continues to be, here's a story from his final run as a Leaf, in the playoffs in 2000. The Leafs were in a game against the Devils and Brodeur was absolutely shutting the door. Wendel, relegated to 4th line duty at this point, jumped on the ice, took the puck down to Brodeur and ripped one of his famous wristshots off of the crossbar and out of play. This lead to a TV timeout, at which time, Wendel received a 2-minute standing ovation during the entire break. As far as I know, Wendel Clark is the only player to get a standing ovation for hitting the crossbar. There you go. How can any one of us argue with a Leafs fan on his team honouring its players? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Doug Gilmour and Wendel Clarke to get their jerseys honoured by the Leafs. You didn't think I was referring to someone else, did ya? Thanks for the laugh Doggy. I was getting ready to read and possibly post a reply thinking you were talking about Franzen. With they way the Leafs honor numbers, Gilmour and Clark should be there. This isn't a knock on Toronto, to each their own, but I'm glad the Red Wings retire numbers and not honor them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Totally ridiculous. Gilmour did not play long enough as a Leaf and Clark was not star by any means. I agree. What exactly did Gilmour and Clark do that was noteworthy? It's not to say they weren't good players, but worthy of honoring a number for? Is this a PR stunt? Tie Domi was also famous as a Leaf. Hope they don't honor 28 or whatever his number was. Edit: And if 91 goes to the rafters in the Joe, I will lose all respect for the organization. But since I have faith in them, I say not a chance in hell. Wendel Clark would be in the Hall of Fame if not for his injuries. They guy was a force out there physically, he could score, he could fight against any top enforcer in the game, and he was a great leader and clutch playoff performer. Based on all those attributes, Wendel Clark was amazing as a player. Also, his popularity in Toronto was second to no one. If he doesn't get his number retired, then who the hell should? Any team would kill to have a guy like Wendel Clark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,789 Report post Posted July 22, 2008 Kris Draper is not the most popular Red Wing of his generation, like Wendel was and still is. Draper also isn't the scorer that Wendel was, nor the fighter or hitter. People often forget how dynamic of a scorer Wendel was in his day because his numbers are low due to how often he was injured. Wendel is the Toronto Maple Leafs all-time playoff goal leader. Wendel Clark sacrificed his body, mind & soul for the Toronto Maple Leafs and the fans have always appreciated him for that. Along with Doug Gilmour, Wendel lead the Leafs out of the Harold Ballard era and made fans proud to be Leaf fans again. That's something that can never be repaid enough times. http://youtube.com/watch?v=EEltpSMTDPM To give an example of how popular Wendel continues to be, here's a story from his final run as a Leaf, in the playoffs in 2000. The Leafs were in a game against the Devils and Brodeur was absolutely shutting the door. Wendel, relegated to 4th line duty at this point, jumped on the ice, took the puck down to Brodeur and ripped one of his famous wristshots off of the crossbar and out of play. This lead to a TV timeout, at which time, Wendel received a 2-minute standing ovation during the entire break. As far as I know, Wendel Clark is the only player to get a standing ovation for hitting the crossbar. Great post. Not many players could have the skill that Wendel Clark had, yet at the same time be able to hang with guys like Bob Probert or Behn Wilson in a fight. He was a rare type of player. Some idiots here think that because he never worked out in Detroit at the end of his injury riddled career, that that somehow means he wasn't a great player. That's the wrong kind of thinking there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites