Opie 308 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 how are they a joke? When freaking raycroft has better save % it is BAD. Sure but Raycroft is 2-2 with an .886 sv% and the team is 5-4-0, you honestly don't see Ozzie as better than Raycroft, honestly! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 (edited) how are they a joke? When freaking raycroft has better save % it is BAD. Well he doesn't so rest assured its not THAT bad Andrew Raycroft 2gp 2W 0L 0OL 3.01 .875 Chris Osgood 7gp 4W 1L 2OL 3.38 .879 Edited October 30, 2008 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robat 13 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 how are they a joke? When freaking raycroft has better save % it is BAD. :flush: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 how are they a joke? When freaking raycroft has better save % it is BAD. So Raycroft > Osgood, right? Oh. wait. Look a couple colums over. That's based on 48 shots and 2 games. Do people even watch hockey games anymore? Or just make dumbass assumptions as they check stats for their fantasy league? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robat 13 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 So Raycroft > Osgood, right? Oh. wait. Look a couple colums over. That's based on 48 shots and 2 games. Do people even watch hockey games anymore? Or just make dumbass assumptions as they check stats for their fantasy league? What's hockey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 27. Ilja Bryzgalov .889 28. Jose Theodore .886 29. Pascal Leclaire .885 30. Chris Osgood .879 31. Evgeni Nabokov .877 32. Dan Ellis .873 33. Martin Biron .868 34. Marty Turco .842 Here we have the current numbers 27-34 on in svt% stat on NHL.com. These names all look familiar, right ? Indeed, every single one of them had a awesome 2007-2008 season. What happened then ? They became terrible goaltenders overnight ? Nope... most of the nights they are playing in front of godawful defenses and in spite of all their talent they can't get their own and partially their teams performance back on track. As soon as each of their team's D get their act together, these goalies will be out of the stat-cellar in a few weeks.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 So Raycroft > Osgood, right? Oh. wait. Look a couple colums over. That's based on 48 shots and 2 games. Do people even watch hockey games anymore? Or just make dumbass assumptions as they check stats for their fantasy league? Pretty sad, eh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted October 30, 2008 I thought Ozzie played real well against the Quacks. He made some massive saves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg1m 3 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Guys you can bring up the Red Wings record all you want but if the defense and Ozzie plays like this during the playoffs then I can guarentee you that they won't get through the first round. A less than .900 save percentage is not going to win. I don't care who you blame it on Ozzie or the defense but both of them need to shape up or the team will not be repeating this year. During that time you won't be able to say, "Well, the Red Wings started 7-1-2!!!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 (edited) Guys you can bring up the Red Wings record all you want but if the defense and Ozzie plays like this during the playoffs then I can guarentee you that they won't get through the first round. A less than .900 save percentage is not going to win. I don't care who you blame it on Ozzie or the defense but both of them need to shape up or the team will not be repeating this year. During that time you won't be able to say, "Well, the Red Wings started 7-1-2!!!" luckily they've got 72 games left to sort that out. Edited October 31, 2008 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seedless 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 DEEEEEEFEEEENSE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 DEEEEEEFEEEENSE. Yep. While the goaltending numbers are subpar-ish, if you've seen a majority of the games it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out that the defense has often hung the Wings goalies out to dry so far these first 10 games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outsider 42 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Wow. Ugly game tonight. The Wings seem to be managing to stay out of the box, but the lack of aggressive, physical play is costing them offense. Anyone STILL want to argue that it's the goaltending which is the problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
digitaljohn88 4 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Tonight's game should prove pretty easily that it's not either goaltenders' fault that we're allowing 3+ goals per game. Now Conklin's stats are suffering too. He probably has a sv% below .900 and GAA above 3.00. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robat 13 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Ozzie was so bad tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg1m 3 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Ozzie was so bad tonight. You apparently haven't watched hockey long. Tonight was a perfect example of why the Wings will lose in the first round if they don't get their acts together. They now have 71 games to do it. Wings have a 5-4 record without the two shootout victories. I don't think that is a record the team should be bragging about (althought I am sure they aren't). They have scored 41 goals but have allowed 37 (2nd worst in the league). Bust peoples chops for blaming Ozzie all you want but the Wings clearly have some corrections to make. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 I was lucky enough to stay up all night last night... and after see that piss poor perfromance i am joinging the Ozzie sucks bandwagon.... Come on Babs put Conklin in!!!! he is our only hope! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torless 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 I was lucky enough to stay up all night last night... and after see that piss poor perfromance i am joinging the Ozzie sucks bandwagon.... Come on Babs put Conklin in!!!! he is our only hope! lol - reminds me of a particular Championship season when everyone was calling for the tandem pull after Ozzie had several bad games in a row with soft goals. "Keep Hasek in net, he's the hall-of-famer that will carry us to the cup!" yeah... pathetic. Every game is apparently the end of the season... did anyone really expect 82-0 and 0 GAA in 2009? Was there not a period of time just a month and a half before the playoffs when Detroit was sucking? Give it a break everyone... it didn't seem to matter to the team last season that almost everyone was doubting their ability to make it to the end. /end thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 I was lucky enough to stay up all night last night... and after see that piss poor perfromance i am joinging the Ozzie sucks bandwagon.... Come on Babs put Conklin in!!!! he is our only hope! Is it just me or did Osgood not play last night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted October 31, 2008 Is it just me or did Osgood not play last night? Haha yeaaaah i don't think he played last night either. Anyways, seriously..the defense needs to shape up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted November 1, 2008 27. Ilja Bryzgalov .889 28. Jose Theodore .886 29. Pascal Leclaire .885 30. Chris Osgood .879 31. Evgeni Nabokov .877 32. Dan Ellis .873 33. Martin Biron .868 34. Marty Turco .842 Soph starter Fawfull Soph starter meh Workload finally getting him? Soph starter meh meh but it's early yet. The hockey gods have a way of making things right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted November 1, 2008 how are they a joke? When freaking raycroft has better save % it is BAD. They have not played enough games to make a comparison. The sample size is to small to be meaninful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 They have not played enough games to make a comparison. The sample size is to small to be meaninful. the samplw size is never too small to panic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckeyeWingsfan80 209 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 I'm not going to worry about something I can't do anything about. Babs isn't exactly Mike Keenan or Doug MacLean - he knows what he's doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukownzU13 1 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) It's starting to seem like scoring is up this year. Looking around at the stats of solid goalies, maybe .890 is the new .900 SV%? Ozzie can play better and so can Conklin, but more importantly our defense can play much much better. Too many shots in close to fault the goalies at this point. Edited November 2, 2008 by DatsyukownzU13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites