starting to get a bit paranoid

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Has anyone else noticed that as soon as the wings get a lead, the other team immediatly gets a marginal call in their favor? I know they're was always make up calls, but this seaason i am seeing more and more calls that seem like the refs are trying to keep it close. It's noticable on the scorebored too, as we've only beat the 2 goal diffirene twice, both being empty netter game.

Anyone else notice this? I for one am convinced that bettman has told the refs to create some "parity" in the leauge, in terms of refs being made to call a game to make it close

[Red Winged 8]

Has anyone else noticed that as soon as the wings get a lead, the other team immediatly gets a marginal call in their favor? I know they're was always make up calls, but this seaason i am seeing more and more calls that seem like the refs are trying to keep it close. It's noticable on the scorebored too, as we've only beat the 2 goal diffirene twice, both being empty netter game.

Anyone else notice this? I for one am convinced that bettman has told the refs to create some "parity" in the leauge, in terms of refs being made to call a game to make it close

I wouldnt put it past the pos.

[LEBDA22 0]

Just happened right now reffs give the chucks another 5 on 3

[maltbymaniac 13]

i agree 1000%. this is insanity

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Kronwall sticking Niedermayer in the face was a marginal call?

[Vincanni 1]

It's pretty much been this way for a long time and it works both ways. A great example of this is during the playoffs when an entire game is slanted against the team leading in the series. If you ask me I agree and it is in fact another one of Bettman's great ideas to create artificial parity in the league.

It could just be a perspective issue, but anyone who watched our finals with the Penguins when this tendency ran rampant knows there's more too it than coincidence.

Edit: Granted you have to call the puck over the glass and Needavacation was in fact high sticked, so it hasn't been that terrible for us.

Edited October 30, 2008 by Vincanni

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Kronwall sticking Niedermayer in the face was a marginal call?

Was posted before this/ calm down

[CrossoverThrash 0]

Selane's interference call should have been a goal disallowed at most

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Was posted before this/ calm down

uhh... i'm not the one who seems upset here.

[pjgj13 30]

The Wings have been among the LEAST penalized teams for quite a while. I don't understand why they have been called for so many penalties. Yes, I see in "red & white", but I do say "they have to call that on him" when a Wings player does something.

In just the 1st 2 periods tonight, I saw at least 4 - 6 non calls that should have been called. Z's near breakaway shorthanded, Kronner pushed into the boards (Sammy gets roughing) and the check that May put on Drapes is 3 that come to mind.

The number of 5 - 3 penalties they have had to kill after 9 2/3 games is BS! It has got to be at least 10 - 12 so far.

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Kronwall sticking Niedermayer in the face was a marginal call?

I think he means the call preceding the ones that put us 5 on 3. Its not so much, IMO, that the calls are getting made against us - they are fairly legit calls - its just that their timing is impeccable. For example, the call on Datsyuk is a type of play that happens several times a game and is let go on both sides, yet they always seem to make an effort to make a call right after we score.

But in my mind, it all has to do with how we slack off after we score a goal. If you're running around in your own zone, the refs are gonna be more inclined to make the call. That plays into things a lot..

[pjgj13 30]

Selane's interference call should have been a goal disallowed at most

How many times have the Wings lost a goal and were shorthanded after a Homer "interference"?

[Dano33 41]

Selane's interference call should have been a goal disallowed at most

Why? It didn't look accidental or anything, he hit sammy away from the puck. Clear interference to me.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I think he means the call preceding the ones that put us 5 on 3. Its not so much, IMO, that the calls are getting made against us - they are fairly legit calls - its just that their timing is impeccable. For example, the call on Datsyuk is a type of play that happens several times a game and is let go on both sides, yet they always seem to make an effort to make a call right after we score.

But in my mind, it all has to do with how we slack off after we score a goal. If you're running around in your own zone, the refs are gonna be more inclined to make the call. That plays into things a lot..

I think that's the heart of it.

A team slacking off a little, combined with that it's easier to call a penalty on a team with a lead than the one that's already losing.

But there's no conspiracy.

[RedWingNut378 0]

Goaling interference? No. He was pushed right onto the goalie.. Hopefuly the red wings will still win..

[Red Kingdom 4]

I think that's the heart of it.

A team slacking off a little, combined with that it's easier to call a penalty on a team with a lead than the one that's already losing.

But there's no conspiracy.

You're right, there's no conspiracy but, is it a coincidence that the opposing team gets three 5 on 3's in one game? And only two games after another opponent had two 5 on 3's. When do the Wings get one? Are the Quacks playing so clean that the refs can't even things out some. Is this give the poor unfortunate teams in the league a chance against the best team in the league.

[Red Kingdom 4]

There, Daniels just said it. The Wings have had to play two men short 10 times already this season and have 4 two man advantages so far this year. Yeah, I like the way those things even out.

[Guest Shoreline]

Penalties aren't supposed to "even out".

If the Wings are taking dumb penalties, they're taking dumb penalties. Notice how other teams are long on the s*** end of the penalties against stick.

The Wings have been making absolutely stupid plays today, and this so far has been the way they've played the season. Might be remnants of a hangover, or maybe some of them figure they've got a cup so they can take it easy now, which means dumb penalties.

[pjgj13 30]

How about the elbow on Dats? The highstick on Sammy? THE HIGHSTICK GAME WINNING GOAL?

The Wings should have had another 8 PP chances. Horses*** reffing tonight.

[let the octopi fly 0]

that was a BS goal

[ShanahanMan 473]

I'll agree that the refs began to miss some calls toward the end. But for the most part, the Wings put themselves in the penalty box, not the refs.

[b.shanafan14 733]

This game was disgusting. The officiating was the worst I've seen all year, and that is saying a LOT. How many 5 on 3's are Bettman's zebras going to award to team thats down. Between the last 3 games, I don't think I've seen a solid 5 minutes of 5 on 5 hockey. Its getting old and it always seems to be a disputed ending when we play the Ducks in Cali especially. Gary Bettman and his refs are ruining this year for me so far. Explain to me how they think a team earning a lead and the opposition gets awarded 5 on 3 after another to run a passing drill until the inevitably score. Its disgusting.

[ben_usmc 253]

I think the calls on the Wings this game were all legit, but they sure as f*** had plenty of calls the forgot to call against the ducks. I really hope Pronger gets his carrier ended by an elbow; harsh but he does deserve it.

[ShanahanMan 473]

You know what most bulls*** penalties consist of? Hooks. You know how many hooks were called in this game? One. I hate to disagree with what seems like the majority of the board here but this game was called pretty legit to me. Sure there were missed calls here and there but what game doesn't? As someone else put it, the Wings defeated the Wings.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

You know what most bulls*** penalties consist of? Hooks. You know how many hooks were called in this game? One. I hate to disagree with what seems like the majority of the board here but this game was called pretty legit to me. Sure there were missed calls here and there but what game doesn't? As someone else put it, the Wings defeated the Wings.

Agreed.

So there's at least two of us.