maltbymaniac 13 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 And I give up on you. Thanks for having the maturity to have a little debate instead of being a troll. No one here has knocked Babcock and it is a mere debate. If you can't take a discussion, then why the hell are you here in the first place? it was a joke mister hot head so piss off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 You can't blame them for panicing at least a little though. Last year we were #1 in goals against, right now I believe we're #25, that's a huge change. And we're not going to be able to win 16 playoffs games 6-5 in OT after trailing 4-2. We HAVE to get better defensively, and I DO THINK WE WILL, but that's the rational, and it's a reasonable one. We have showed signs of improvement though. You seem to forget what month it is. We went 1-10 at one point in the season last year. What happened afterwards? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 The only issue I have with Babcock is the way he holds players accoutable. That is to say, he holds some players accountable for their play but not others. Example 1: Jiri Hudler gets demoted not 2 games into the season after things apparently "weren't working out", yet Brett Lebda, as our #6 Dman, has been atrocious. Wheres the accountability there? Meech is every bit as good as Lebda, yet Lebda gets the minutes. I just don't understand the reasoning. Example 2: A few games ago, Mikael Samuelsson finishes with 3-4 minutes more than Marian freaking Hossa? Thats downright unacceptable. Samuelsson, a streaky scorer at best, has gone cold and hasn't been able to put up much more than penalty time lately. Does he get reprimanded for it? Absolutely not. Well Lebda is out and Meech is in. And Hossa was slightly injured that game so he didn't play as much. He had some problem with his leg or knee or something like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwing19 11 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 i thought hossa was slightly hurt during the ducks game? but plz tell me hes fine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 i thought hossa was slightly hurt during the ducks game? but plz tell me hes fine? I'm pretty sure it was just a little sprain or sore muscle that he didn't want to pull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted November 2, 2008 it was a joke mister hot head so piss off You forgot your [joke] tags Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbymaniac 13 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) You forgot your [joke] tags my bad. fixed and please no more low blows with calling me a troll, ive been a fan since birth.(27.11 years to be exact) Edited November 2, 2008 by maltbymaniac Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 4051RedWings1393 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 Babcock needs to switch up the Zetterberg line. Get rid of Cleary and put Flippula in. Bench Cleary. If you disagree, I want you to watch Cleary tonight and watch him only. He'll cherry pick and not help out our D and he never passes. If he does, it's either a bouncing puck or a turn over. I hope we fire our Defense coach too, he's been a curse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 2, 2008 Babcock needs to switch up the Zetterberg line. Get rid of Cleary and put Flippula in. Bench Cleary. If you disagree, I want you to watch Cleary tonight and watch him only. He'll cherry pick and not help out our D and he never passes. If he does, it's either a bouncing puck or a turn over. I hope we fire our Defense coach too, he's been a curse. I've been watching Cleary for the last two seasons, and he's my favorite player on the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
under_par_00 45 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 Wings are 7-2-2 after a long post season. And after a tough road trip out west against the Kings, Ducks, and Sharks. Yes the defence looks a little shaky, but we have nothing to worry about, what are we 11 games in? Give it some time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
19Hockeytown5 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 http://media.canada.com/18999381-a686-495f...6b/1babcock.jpg Does this answer your question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 (edited) I've been watching Cleary for the last two seasons, and he's my favorite player on the team. I'm very surprised that we have the same favorite player. This guy doesnt know jack about Dan Cleary if he really believes all these things, Cleary only got BETTER playing more minutes and with Zetterberg, and he wasnt playing bad to begin with. Edited November 2, 2008 by Detroit # 1 Fan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jim3033 1 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 Babcock is good. Some things worry me about him, if he can roll out the right line combos against a coach that knows the Wings well. I think he is a clever coach. I hope he can light some fires under the defence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossoverThrash 0 Report post Posted November 2, 2008 I'm very surprised that we have the same favorite player. This guy doesnt know jack about Dan Cleary if he really believes all these things, Cleary only got BETTER playing more minutes and with Zetterberg, and he wasnt playing bad to begin with. Cleary has had an injured eye this season and has been nonexistent imo, they should just put him on ir and bring up leino until dan can see 100%. At least give leino a chance since hudler apparently wasn't working. I have a good bet that clear has been playing injured possibly not just the eye this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim 5 Report post Posted November 3, 2008 Babs seems to have trouble stemming the tide on long funks... we had a particularly bad one last season. He also has his favorites which can do no wrong *ahem* Sammy and Lebda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted November 3, 2008 Babs seems to have trouble stemming the tide on long funks... we had a particularly bad one last season. He also has his favorites which can do no wrong *ahem* Sammy and Lebda. Haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 3, 2008 Haha. Yeah, no s***. Having our top 4 defensemen all out on injury was sort of a contributing factor, and it would have similar effects on any team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueMonk 102 Report post Posted November 3, 2008 One of the best coaches in the league, thrilled to have him coaching my team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 3, 2008 One of the best coaches in the league, thrilled to have him coaching my team. OMG, Mr. Illitch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bagofpucks 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2008 The PP is still an issue in SJ but the main think Mclellan has brought is getting this team to be constantly attacking. Wilson made the Sharks the Joe Thornton show which consisted of getting Joe in space to make a play. Also of mention is the Sharks finally have puck moving defensemen in Blake and Boyle. Marleau is flying all over the ice and Devin Setogucci is leading the team in points. An early darkhorse candidate for the Norris is Christian Erhoff he's 2 goals 8 assists with a +8 rating in 12 games and he's looked incredible at times. The Sharks remind me of the Red Wings bombing the opponent with shots while allowing few and lots of crisp and clean passing sequences. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted November 3, 2008 The PP is still an issue in SJ but the main think Mclellan has brought is getting this team to be constantly attacking. Wilson made the Sharks the Joe Thornton show which consisted of getting Joe in space to make a play. Also of mention is the Sharks finally have puck moving defensemen in Blake and Boyle. Marleau is flying all over the ice and Devin Setogucci is leading the team in points. An early darkhorse candidate for the Norris is Christian Erhoff he's 2 goals 8 assists with a +8 rating in 12 games and he's looked incredible at times. The Sharks remind me of the Red Wings bombing the opponent with shots while allowing few and lots of crisp and clean passing sequences. ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
