GoOzzieGo 22 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 Is it just me, or is Nick starting to slip a little.....becoming...um..what should I say? Human? It seems he's getting beat a lot more so far this year than I've ever seen him. Cheli went through a similar spell last year in the playoffs and most everyone was calling for the hangman's noose. The way our defense has played of late....Cheli can't get well soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslionstigers 12 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 Why because Rafalski kept getting cought back deep tonight resulting in 2-1s coming down vs Lidstrom and he couldnt fend off 2 players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 Is it just me, or is Nick starting to slip a little.....becoming...um..what should I say? Human? It seems he's getting beat a lot more so far this year than I've ever seen him. Cheli went through a similar spell last year in the playoffs and most everyone was calling for the hangman's noose. The way our defense has played of late....Cheli can't get well soon enough. Well, age isn't on his side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 The day lidstrom starts playing 10-15 mins a game that's when I'll know his growing old ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 By the end of this season everyone will be back on Nick's jock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOzzieGo 22 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 Why because Rafalski kept getting cought back deep tonight resulting in 2-1s coming down vs Lidstrom and he couldnt fend off 2 players. LOL...well sure, Nick of old could always fend off 2 players! No, not just tonight...he just seems off his game so far this season. Seems a little hesitant at times. I'm sure a lot of this has to do with basically an overall breakdown of defense on most everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 Is it just me, or is Nick starting to slip a little.....becoming...um..what should I say? Human? It seems he's getting beat a lot more so far this year than I've ever seen him. Cheli went through a similar spell last year in the playoffs and most everyone was calling for the hangman's noose. The way our defense has played of late....Cheli can't get well soon enough. Lidstrom has been human this year, for the first time that I can remember. I don't know what's going on with these guys. Even when they're winning it doesn't seem....well....right. They're not playing bad overall, it's just like they're not all there all the time. I do find it funny though that everyone is thinking Chelios will save the defense when 90% of you were calling for him to be let go during the summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 I agree Lidstrom has been off. The way hes been playing he definitely doesn't seem like he wants to keep the Norris streak alive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 The day lidstrom starts playing 10-15 mins a game that's when I'll know his growing old ! And the day Kopecky starts playing on the first line you'll know hes a competent 30 goal scorer! Oh wait.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 By the end of this season everyone will be back on Nick's jock. How come some people can't grasp the concept of aging? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrossoverThrash 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 How come some people can't grasp the concept of aging? Why can't you grasp the concept of Lidstrom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 He hasn't been his usual self, but he's still played above average hockey. Nothing to complain about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 How come some people can't grasp the concept of aging? Probably because you're proposing it as if hockey players insta-age over night. I certainly hope Lidstrom won't drop from a 70pt Norris season to average in one summer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seraph 240 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 Probably because you're proposing it as if hockey players insta-age over night. I certainly hope Lidstrom won't drop from a 70pt Norris season to average in one summer. Word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted November 27, 2008 Well if he doesn't win Norris, I wouldn't mind seeing Shea Weber win it... I always liked him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 as long as its not the overrated Dion Phakueff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 as long as its not the overrated Dion Phakueff! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flamezfan 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Here's a thought for you. Maybe the Wings are not slowling down, or getting worse, but the rest of the league is getting better. There is a lot of good young, mostly unknown talent among many teams now who are starting to mature and actually play very well. They are fast, young and fearless and let's face it, Lidstrom is 38 when most players are past their prime. He has to play a much tighter game and be in position now all the time otherwise he'll get burned. I doubt anyone over the course of an 80+ game season can do that. (I find it funny though that the Wings lose and I win money every time, because you fans always, always blame the refs, my pocket book thanks you) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenova0 0 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 Why do we do this every year? The Wings have played a total of 2 good games all year. It's not like the Wings are playing their hearts out and getting beaten. They are playing lazy and have won 66% of their games. Every year, the Wings have a bad stretch, we do this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 A lot of people thought he was finished winning Norrises when he didn't win it in 2004. I think he ended with something like 40 points that year. And look what he's done since then. Obviously that was several years ago, and he's aged since then, but I think he just needs to be more aggressive offensively and needs to take off the visor which is most likely affecting his play. The plus/minus total is more of a product of the forwards not hustling defensively like they've done in the past. There are constantly players coming in off the puck to score goals on us. That's on the forwards and not on the defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 If he does pick it up and go on a tear in the 2nd half of the season is he still in the running for the Norris or is it all for Dion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockey&beer 16 Report post Posted November 28, 2008 In my opinion, Lidstom has looked human because Rafalski has been barely average. Yes there have been a few obvious lapses in Nick's play but the oposition is putting the puck in the net because Brian is getting beat at the blue line and leaving Nick out to dry. Not to mention the defensive zone turnovers by pretty much anyone in The Wheel. It seems to me I heard Rafalski say that Babs told him to jump up more and he does seem to be doing that. Unfortunately that leaves Nick to play defensive defensemen, which he is perfectly capable as we all know. The problem occurs when Raf moves in and gets a shot blocked, then Nick is scrambling back to cover the rush where always seems to be a trailer coming before Raf gets back. In that scenario, the defensive breakdown will seem to be Nick's fault even though he may play it perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
j.hoop 64 Report post Posted November 29, 2008 In my opinion, Lidstom has looked human because Rafalski has been barely average. Yes there have been a few obvious lapses in Nick's play but the oposition is putting the puck in the net because Brian is getting beat at the blue line and leaving Nick out to dry. Not to mention the defensive zone turnovers by pretty much anyone in The Wheel. It seems to me I heard Rafalski say that Babs told him to jump up more and he does seem to be doing that. Unfortunately that leaves Nick to play defensive defensemen, which he is perfectly capable as we all know. The problem occurs when Raf moves in and gets a shot blocked, then Nick is scrambling back to cover the rush where always seems to be a trailer coming before Raf gets back. In that scenario, the defensive breakdown will seem to be Nick's fault even though he may play it perfectly. good analysis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RWK23 0 Report post Posted November 30, 2008 If he does pick it up and go on a tear in the 2nd half of the season is he still in the running for the Norris or is it all for Dion? Phaneuf hasn't been all that great either. He's at -6 right now. I'm thinking Lidstrom ends up winning it again after a strong second half, but Shea Weber, Dan Boyle, Rob Blake, and Mike Green can all make cases early on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted November 30, 2008 In my opinion, Lidstom has looked human because Rafalski has been barely average. Yes there have been a few obvious lapses in Nick's play but the oposition is putting the puck in the net because Brian is getting beat at the blue line and leaving Nick out to dry. Not to mention the defensive zone turnovers by pretty much anyone in The Wheel. It seems to me I heard Rafalski say that Babs told him to jump up more and he does seem to be doing that. Unfortunately that leaves Nick to play defensive defensemen, which he is perfectly capable as we all know. The problem occurs when Raf moves in and gets a shot blocked, then Nick is scrambling back to cover the rush where always seems to be a trailer coming before Raf gets back. In that scenario, the defensive breakdown will seem to be Nick's fault even though he may play it perfectly. Sir, I am intrigued with what you have said, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Sincerely, thedisappearer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
