Osgood is the worst starting goalie in the league

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Ozzy made a lot of huge saves last night that kept the Wings in it. I was starting to think he was getting his form back. Then the second goal which looked soft, and the awful center ice goal. He ended up looking a lot like the rest of the Wings. There's glimpses of their level of play from last year, but still too many breakdowns.

And I think people are overrating Conklin's play. It's the backup goalie effect. Don't get me wrong, he's been solid, and more consistent than Ozzy. But I still think he's giving up a lot of juicy rebounds.

As for who's going to start in the playoffs, I don't think that discussion has any meaning until the Wings have played at least 40 more games.

[edicius 3,269]

And I think people are overrating Conklin's play. It's the backup goalie effect. Don't get me wrong, he's been solid, and more consistent than Ozzy. But I still think he's giving up a lot of juicy rebounds.

I've been noticing that as well too. Ozzie seems to, for the most part, have better rebound control.

[maltbymaniac 13]

at least this not so good start dont get him down in the dumps.did you here what he said after the game.

somthing to the affect the drapers first goal is the turning point on the season.lol

i think that center icer will ruffle his feathers a bit and he will bounce back with some excellent play............PLEASE!

Edited November 29, 2008 by maltbymaniac

[The Noodle 39 14]

That center ice goal brought back memories of old ozzie eh? Hehe but man i felt bad for Ozzie there poor guy. But were a great team and we will be fine. All we need is a descent goalie and a goalie that may make a big save here and there in the playoffs while averaging 15-20 saves a game. Ozzie and Conklin are both good backup tenders and you put them together on a great team and that is good enough for us cause we don't require spectacular goaltending.

Ozzie has his moments where he will have complete breakdowns and he's utterly embrarresing and then he has his hot period where he plays like an all star! He is what he is and that is just good enough for a team who could probably have a few stuffed animals in net and still win.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

The rumors of Ozzie's demise are greatly exaggerated. We've seen this schtick before. Given that he's still winning, I don't see any reason not to give him ample time to find that championship form again and hit his stride. There's a lot more ground to cover yet, and once we do, if things haven't changed, then we'll have some reason panic.

Edited November 29, 2008 by Heroes of Hockeytown

[Zion 93]

Ozzie made some huge saves last night, especially on defensive gaffs. I don't know what to say about the center-ice goal, but I'm far more concerned with our defense than our goaltending.

San Jose is going to be the team to beat this year. They look like we did last year, and we have yet to beat a REAL team, save for the OT winner against the Rangers. I was watching the Bruins game yesterday, and heard the usual "tomorrow night's measuring-stick game against the Detroit Red Wings", when I was thinking to myself "Here's another measuring-stick game for the WINGS".

[Echolalia 2,961]

We can crunch numbers and manipulate statistics all we want, but it doesn't hide the fact that Osgood is underperforming right now, and his game needs to pick up if he wants this team to have a chance at the cup. The defense has also been poor this year, but one is not an excuse for the other. Whenever an "osgood is bad" thread pops up, there are always people saying, "well its really the defenses fault", and whenever a "defense sucks" thread comes up, people are saying "well if Osgood played better...". The fact is they're both underperforming and both elements need to improve noticeably if we are going to get through the playoffs. Thank god theres 82 games in a season so we have time to work on it.

[Pucks 66]

I've been noticing that as well too. Ozzie seems to, for the most part, have better rebound control.

You mean like the rebound osgood dumped in front that got deposited in the net last night? I mean look at Tim

Thomas, he gives up alot of rebounds and most the time they dont cost him. He keeps most of them out of dangerous areas. The ones he can't he saves with his athletic ability and great lateral movement. Osgood can't afford to give up rebounds because he can't recover to make the next save anymore because he has no lateral movement. People who want to try to use stats to somehow give Osgood a pass need to actually watch some games. If you know hockey and actually watch games is been very obvious Chris is not been helping his team this year. I hope it changes since his play was a postive story for the Wings cup last year. Will it? we shall see.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Yupp, worst starter in the league by far IMO. Just like every single friggin season he's ever started, or won a cup. Ozzie will always be under harse criticism, no he hasnt played great this year, but at times he's stolen games. Against Vancouver, we should've lost by a good margin, but Ozzie got us 1 point. But instead people keep harping on stats, tell me how his stats are looking when he's out dueling some other young gun in the Finals AGAIN this year.

[Seraph 240]

I think to get our goaltending back in shape, two things have to happen. One, Ozzie needs some competition for his job. I think that's the only way to snap him out of his hangover. And two, the D has to get back into form. However, I think the poor play from the D and the goaltending is because one effects the confidence of the other. Soft goals make the D panic more and the D coming off weak makes the goalies panic and let more softies in. Eventually the pendulum has to swing one direction and either Ozzie or the D are going to have to tighten up their game. Then I think everything will snap back into place. Hopefully in time for the playoffs.

[chrisdetroit 189]

Ozzie made some huge saves last night, especially on defensive gaffs. I don't know what to say about the center-ice goal, but I'm far more concerned with our defense than our goaltending.

San Jose is going to be the team to beat this year. They look like we did last year, and we have yet to beat a REAL team, save for the OT winner against the Rangers. I was watching the Bruins game yesterday, and heard the usual "tomorrow night's measuring-stick game against the Detroit Red Wings", when I was thinking to myself "Here's another measuring-stick game for the WINGS".

yea, great, another measuring stick for us that we have to play at a disadvantage.

San Jose was a back-to back with travel in between and the 3rd game in 4 nights

Montreal was the first day back from a 10 game western Canadian trip

and now we get Boston in another back to back with travel in between

Who made this schedule?

And San Jose is only the team to beat in the regular season as in the past. I'll worry if they make it to the WCF. I think alot of people are looking at McClellan as their savior but that's a pretty tall order for a rookie head coach. He is dealing with a group that has underachieved in the playoffs 4 years in a row..

I had to look this up.

2004 Lost in WCF to Calgary

2005 lockout

2006 Lost in 2nd round to Oilers

2007 Lost in 2nd round to Wings

2008 Lost in 2nd round to Stars.

Pretty amazing...

[Guest Crymson]

Edit: Just kidding. I just really wanted to post a picture of Shrek.

Ozzie will improve. We know what he's capable of.

Edited November 29, 2008 by Crymson

[OsGOD 3]

didn't they win last night by two? whats the big deal about the center ice goal/deflection? in the grand scheme of things Ozzie got 2 more points than Conk did against the habs... Right?

He made incredible saves on Nash all game long. Ozzie came up huge more often than he came up soft

[MaynardJKeenan 1]

The rumors of Ozzie's demise are greatly exaggerated.

Let's take this one day at a time, I'll hold your hand if you hold mine. The time that we kill keeps us alive.

[ArcticWing 0]

Ozzie will improve. We know what he's capable of.

I will second that!

Edit: Just kidding. I just really wanted to post a picture of Shrek.

And a Donkey right?

[Doc Holiday 0]

You mean like the rebound osgood dumped in front that got deposited in the net last night? I mean look at Tim

Thomas, he gives up alot of rebounds and most the time they dont cost him. He keeps most of them out of dangerous areas. The ones he can't he saves with his athletic ability and great lateral movement. Osgood can't afford to give up rebounds because he can't recover to make the next save anymore because he has no lateral movement. People who want to try to use stats to somehow give Osgood a pass need to actually watch some games. If you know hockey and actually watch games is been very obvious Chris is not been helping his team this year. I hope it changes since his play was a postive story for the Wings cup last year. Will it? we shall see.

You are talking about the same goal where the goal scorer was right next to Osgood with NO ONE to stop him? That goal?

[The Mule 0]

He's also won three Stanley Cups, and excuse me if I'm not pushing the panic button, but I'd much rather base my opinion on a lifetime of success as opposed to two months worth of play.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

didn't they win last night by two? whats the big deal about the center ice goal/deflection?

I think it's obvious what the big deal is. That is not a remotely acceptable shot to surrender.

in the grand scheme of things Ozzie got 2 more points than Conk did against the habs... Right?

In the "grand scheme of things" the Wings scored 3 more goals against the BJs than they did the Habs... Games are won and lost based on the individual performance of players, and last night Ozzie was hit or miss. He has to play better.

[digitaljohn88 4]

9-1-4.

The points equivalent of 11-3-0.

Ozzy needs to draw some games that will actually help his stats. Facing 16 SOG is just setting a goalie up for failure. Even if he had only let in 2, that's still a .875%

[OsGOD 3]

I think it's obvious what the big deal is. That is not a remotely acceptable shot to surrender.

In the "grand scheme of things" the Wings scored 3 more goals against the BJs than they did the Habs... Games are won and lost based on the individual performance of players, and last night Ozzie was hit or miss. He has to play better.

Meh maybe he will turn around and shut out the next game and win the series like he did the last time that happened to him... oh wait its just the regular season.. it meant s***!

You wanna know a goal that a goalie should have stopped was Hossa's gwg on donkey... OMG that was horrible.

I still think with the defensive gaff (and there was a ton of them last night) <--- the beauty of sitting in the zone where the wings attempt defense twice, you get to see a lot of problems.... Ozzie came up way huge... more times than he let in a bad goal.

Edited November 29, 2008 by OsGOD

[CrossoverThrash 0]

Turco has been far worse

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Meh maybe he will turn around and shut out the next game and win the series like he did the last time that happened to him... oh wait its just the regular season.. it meant s***!

We ought to write off their defensive struggles too if the season is so meaningless.

You wanna know a goal that a goalie should have stopped was Hossa's gwg on donkey... OMG that was horrible

Hossa probably caught he by surprise, not anticipating the shot. He's scored three goals like that now just throwing the puck at the net from bad angles and fooling goalies.

I still think with the defensive gaff (and there was a ton of them last night) <--- the beauty of sitting in the zone where the wings attempt defense twice, you get to see a lot of problems.... Ozzie came up way huge... more times than he let in a bad goal.

I wasn't defending the Wings defensive play either, everyone has a lot of room to improve. But this is about Ozzie, so I'll say this about Ozzie: He needs to play better. He's capable of making great saves, he made several nice stops against the BJs, but you undermine all that if you turn around and give up a bad goal.

[wingslionstigers 12]

Osgood isn't playing any worse than he ever has. Osgood was never a spectacular goalie, hes a mediacore goaltender. Thats why hes paid like one. Detroit has kept Osgoods GAA down, not allowing real scoring chances only giving up weak shots from the outside. The scoring in the league is up right now everyones GAA is higher than average and on top of that Detroit has been giving up quite a few more scoring chances than they have last season.

[OsGOD 3]

Hossa probably caught he by surprise, not anticipating the shot. He's scored three goals like that now just throwing the puck at the net from bad angles and fooling goalies.

prolly the same surprise on the oz when the shot deflected in on him.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

prolly the same surprise on the oz when the shot deflected in on him.

I think you can appreciate the difference between a shot from 20 feet that surprises a goalie and a shot from 90 feet that marginally changes direction.