Nev 1,085 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 So we're always seeing comments on LGW calling for Stuart, or Draper or whoever to be traded. What I wanted to do was create a definitive list of who has No Trade Clauses, and the relative worth of everyone else. Holy Triumvirate Lidstrom Zetterberg Datsyuk One is the current captain, one is the future captain, the other is our best player. We're not winning the Stanley Cup without them No Trade Clause Stuart Draper Cleary Rafalski Tradeable but unlikely Hossa (7.45) We didn't sign him to trade him away Holmstrom (2.45) Unthinkable that he wouldn't be on the PP Franzen (0.94) Key player - could only envision him being traded as part of a blockbuster deal Conklin (0.75) Are we really going to trade away our only decent (and cheap) goalie? Little to no trade value Chelios (0.75) UFA McCarty (0.50) UFA No one picked him up on waivers, so they certainly won't trade for him Kopecky (0.50) UFA I know everyone wants rid, but standalone he's worthless Meech (0.48) Lebda (0.65) See Kopecky Osgood (1.41) Who wants a goalie playing like trash right now? Most of these guys could only be traded away as makeweights in a deal to create roster and/or cap space Tradeable Filpulla (3.0) His cap number makes him expendable if we want an expensive player, but we WILL need him next year after the exodus of FAs. Samuellson (1.2) UFA Not a huge amount of worth, and is a Babcock favourite to boot Hudler (1.0) RFA Has a lot of value IMO. If we want a veteran off a basement dweller at the deadline they're going to want young players and picks. Huds is probly gone in the summer anyway as he's Babcock's *****, and we would get something in return Maltby (0.88) The most tradeable of the lot IMO. We need to get his cap number off the books for next year and the only way to do that is a trade - if he retires or gets waived, we still have to count his salary against the cap. He's taking up a roster spot that belongs to Helm/Abdelkader. His post-season experience would probably make him attractive to a young contender like Boston or Washington Kronwall (3.0) Injury prone and can't hit the net, and its pretty clear now that Nick Jr will never become Nick Mk.II Would only be traded as part of a blockbuster deal though. Lilja (1.25) Not a huge amount of value, but if they wanted to upgrade the 3rd pairing.... If I've missed anyone off, or a NTC, let me know and I'll update the list. Its worth bearing in mind that the wings are unlikely to be in the race for the big names at the deadline due to our old problem of roster space and the cap. That, and the fact that our roster is stacked, with the exception of the 4th line. Most folks here would like to see a Jamal Meyers or Chris Neil picked up at the deadline - that will require us to clear roster and (maybe) cap space and basement dwellers will want young players and/or picks for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Everybody is tradeable. Even Lidstrom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Hossa has a NTC and nobody would take Maltby off our hands. Other than this, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Everybody is tradeable. Even Lidstrom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Even Lidstrom. No, he is not. Kenny and co. would never ever trade Nicklas Lidstrom. As for the original topic, I think Filppula will be traded if Franzen is signed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Everybody is tradeable. Even Lidstrom. Not if they have a NTC, atleast not without their saying "ok". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 So we're always seeing comments on LGW calling for Stuart, or Draper or whoever to be traded. Uh, not to head you off at the pass here, but do we really? I'm going to disagree with you on that one. To further undermine you like a dick (sorry! ) I'd put it at about 0% that anyone on this roster is going to be traded. It's been a long time since the Wings moved someone on their active roster at the deadline (Chelios for Eriksson I think), and it's not about to start with the Cup winning roster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 No, he is not. Kenny and co. would never ever trade Nicklas Lidstrom. As for the original topic, I think Filppula will be traded if Franzen is signed. While I don't necessarily think this will happen, I wouldn't mind it in the least. It creates cap space, and I just don't see Filppula developing into the type of player his contract demands. It wasn't a horrible signing by Kenny IMHO, but I don't think it was a great one either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Maybe they can force rafalski out of the lineup, even though he is good he's not worth the money he's getting... hmm maybe he gets pissed off if they bench him, everyone in the locker room starts to hate him.. maybe then he will waive his NTC? *oops wake up* wonderful dream though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMAC 25 18 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 honestly i hope they dont trade anyone on the team because i like all of them but probably the most to go i would say would be lilja even though he just did sign a contract but like the article said hes not worth much but it could upgrade our 3rd line just a little more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 It's been a long time since the Wings moved someone on their active roster at the deadline (Chelios for Eriksson I think), and it's not about to start with the Cup winning roster. Kuznetzov & Avery for Schneider? Yes, we don't do it often, but we've never been hamstrung by the cap and roster space before either. Uh, not to head you off at the pass here, but do we really? I'm going to disagree with you on that one Do you not read many threads on here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Kopecky for Jamal Mayers straight up. We get another Dallas Drake type and Toronto gets younger. Does this work salary cap wise though? Don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 This smells like another "Panic after losing one game even though we just won the Stanley Cup" thread... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Kopecky for Jamal Mayers straight up. That would be awesome! Mayers' cap hit is 1,333,333 .. so it might be possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Kuznetzov & Avery for Schneider? Yeah, you're right. If the two weren't so completely worthless and forgettable I'd have mentioned them. Yes, we don't do it often, but we've never been hamstrung by the cap and roster space before either. Once the trade deadline has passed the roster restrictions are lifted and once the playoffs start the salaries are paid and the cap is a non-issue, so whatever problems they're having now with bringing in guys and injury replacements from the minors, they won't when it matters. Do you not read many threads on here? I think a lot of people use any criticism of a player to make sarcastic remarks about trading players, and there are always a few wackos proposing outlandish trades, but it's been much better here than in seasons past. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzersyukstromberg 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Everybody is tradeable. Even Lidstrom. Absolutely incorrect....if you think the Wings would even consider trading Lidstrom, or for the matter, Datsyuk, you're drunk. Edited January 19, 2009 by Yzersyukstromberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterbeard40 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Hey Yzersukstromberg, get a grip we know you're not a real wings fan, its not like you have a tattoo or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMAC 25 18 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Hey Yzersukstromberg, get a grip we know you're not a real wings fan, its not like you have a tattoo or anything. dude i'm sorry but if your agreeing with the the person he quoted i dont even know what to say it just wont ever happen lidstrom will NEVER be traded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 (edited) Kopecky for Jamal Mayers straight up. We get another Dallas Drake type and Toronto gets younger. Does this work salary cap wise though? Don't know. I've always wanted Mayers on the Wings, but I can't see Toronto making that trade since they just acquired him this season. He also makes $1.4 million to Kopecky's half a mill. EDIT: And the only way Lidstrom gets traded from the Wings is if he asks for a trade. Edited January 19, 2009 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterbeard40 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 dude i'm sorry but if your agreeing with the the person he quoted i dont even know what to say it just wont ever happen lidstrom will NEVER be traded NO No, no worries, Yzersukstromberg is my brother and I just noticed he posted so I was chirping him. As far as Im concerned, Im voting Lidstrom for Governor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mad dingo 6 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Kronwall, Filpula, 1st and prospect (add more if need be) For Boumeester and Horton (Never, but I can dream) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swiss_fan 3 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Stuart has only an NTC for the last 2 years of his contract, so he is TRADEABLE +considering our logjam on defense, and the fact that he is our only expendable defenseman that has a big salary (Lids, Rafs, and Kronner won t go anywhere) i think there is a possibility he could be gone at the draft... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMAC 25 18 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 NO No, no worries, Yzersukstromberg is my brother and I just noticed he posted so I was chirping him. As far as Im concerned, Im voting Lidstrom for Governor. lol ok i just thought it was werid ok lol sorry about that man Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Stuart/Rafalski/Kronwall/Filppula must go, they have got decent contracts but they are not playing as good to deserve them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted January 19, 2009 Stuart/Rafalski/Kronwall/Filppula must go, they have got decent contracts but they are not playing as good to deserve them We should also deal Datsyuk/Hudler/Zetterberg/Lidstrom while their value is still high. That's just basic economics right there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
