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[sixer]

I thought everyone was blaming Osgood?

[CdnWingsFanEh]

I thought everyone was blaming Osgood?

That's in a different thread...

[taxidermistWINGSfan]

i have put the blame on that guy since about the 20th game of the season... i just dont like him.

[RedWing87]

No, I don't think letting a guy like him go even when the team is down like this would do much of anything except put a different guy behind the bench. Something that's going to turn the team around is going to have to come from the players themselves...whatever that's gonna end up being.

[Roz]

Everyone.

Settle.

Down.

....

Seriously.

[YoungGuns1340]

Yeah! Fire him! Then fire Bedard because our goalies suck! Then fire Babcock because he's in charge of them and should have fired them after the first game of this five game losing streak! Then fire/impeach Ilitch because he's let this team spiral into oblivion for far too long! 5 games- this is unacceptable! FIRE THEM ALL!


TRADE LIDSTROM!

I'm not advocating firing McCrimmon, but McCrimmon has a TON of talent to work with that is underperforming like crazy. Bedard, on the other hand, has a back-up and an inconsistent starter past his prime to work with.

[LidsFan]

The players have themselves to blame for their poor defensive play, they are the ones out on the ice. The defensive coach, can only do so much in practice and once the game starts it is up the each player to do the job that he is getting paid to do.

Edited by LidsFan, 01 February 2009 - 02:08 AM.

[aflac9262]

I'd say no, but I would say yes if this defensive trend were to continue in the long run of things. Lets see how it all plays it first though. Obviously accountability goes both ways, on him and the players. There has been a remarkable decline in defense ever since Todd McLellan left and it's almost as if the defense is lost out there sometimes.

For instance, they're letting guys go right to the net, and virtually giving our goaltenders no chance on shots (from the point especially). This type of thing has to stop. They need to raise their physical game (it's a broken record I know, but it's the dag gum truth) when on defense. In addition, the puck awareness and turnovers are becoming another problem. How many times do we see odd man rushes or breakways? Quite a bit this season.

Also you have to factor in some bad luck, injuries, goals being stifled by Dan O'Halloran (a.k.a. The O'Halloran factor), and you got yourself a disappointing streak of losses. I'm confident the Wings will pick it up though. There's always a low point in the season where we all start to freak out, but the Wings will just prove us wrong.

Edited by aflac9262, 01 February 2009 - 02:31 AM.

[ilmickeyli]

I'd say no, but I would say yes if this defensive trend were to continue in the long run of things. Lets see how it all plays it first though. Obviously accountability goes both ways, on him and the players. There has been a remarkable decline in defense ever since Todd McLellan left and it's almost as if the defense is lost out there sometimes.

will you do our next GDT (no offense to the Hockeytown!!) to see if it makes a difference?

[lets go pavel]

This is silly. WE HAVE THE SAME DEFENSE AS LAST YEAR! What do you think McCrimmon has done that warrants his firing? How is he responsible for the poor play? Does he run the drills in the wrong order in practice? Maybe blow the whistle too loud? Please, someone give me one thing of substance that McCrimmon has done that has a direct causal relationship to our struggles. If there is none, then let's acknowledge there is absolutely no reason other than to send a message ... and quite frankly, that doesn't sound like something this organization would do, at least not midseason. During the offseason, if the playoffs are not successful, that's another story ...

[dadair]

I'd say no, but I would say yes if this defensive trend were to continue in the long run of things. Lets see how it all plays it first though. Obviously accountability goes both ways, on him and the players. There has been a remarkable decline in defense ever since Todd McLellan left and it's almost as if the defense is lost out there sometimes.

You do realize that McLellan worked with the offense, don't you?

[SouthernWingsFan]

No.

[chrisdetroit]

Unbelievable. The Wings are on a 5 game losing streak and you want to fire the assistant coach.

What about the 10 games before the losing streak when they gave up only 19 goals for a 1.9 GAA.

[chrisdetroit]

I'm not advocating firing McCrimmon, but McCrimmon has a TON of talent to work with that is underperforming like crazy. Bedard, on the other hand, has a back-up and an inconsistent starter past his prime to work with.

Past his prime? How was he so great in last year's playoffs then.

He wasn't past his prime then? He must have aged greatly between June and October.

[shoe]

Cant see it happening now halfway through a season firing the assistant? Maybe if him and Babcock were in heated feuds on the bench but thats not happening. Then you bring a new guy in and he has only 30 games left to learn the system, dont think thats a good idea. If its not working I think they would have to deal with it in the summer.

[Lovin Jiri Fischer]

This is silly. WE HAVE THE SAME DEFENSE AS LAST YEAR! What do you think McCrimmon has done that warrants his firing? How is he responsible for the poor play? Does he run the drills in the wrong order in practice? Maybe blow the whistle too loud? Please, someone give me one thing of substance that McCrimmon has done that has a direct causal relationship to our struggles. If there is none, then let's acknowledge there is absolutely no reason other than to send a message ... and quite frankly, that doesn't sound like something this organization would do, at least not midseason. During the offseason, if the playoffs are not successful, that's another story ...

That's the point. We have the exact same defense who played amazingly under one coach last year and is failing under a new coach this year. Sounds like McCrimmon doesn't fit.

[dat's sick]

Are we running out of players to completely trash, so now we have to move on to the staff?
Before we started getting injuries. things were looking better. Not perfect, but better.
Give them/him a chance to turn this losing streak around. We just might emerge from this whole situation as a much stronger team.

Besides, I seriously doubt anyone would fire the assistant coach in the middle of the season when the team is 2nd in the conference.

[Chase]

Wow, now we're moving on to the coaching staff.

5 game losing streak!!11!!1!!! oH nOoOOs!!1!!!!

[VM1138]

What are his responsibilities? Run drills? Design schemes? I'm just not sure if firing him would make things better.

I understand your point of view, but look at it this way:

1) Our defense sucks.
2) Our defensive players are the best in the world.
3) The only change has been the addition of McCrimmon.

It might not help to fire him, but it clearly wouldn't hurt and he may very well be the problem. He is the only change to our world class defense and thus should be the first major change.

[xBrave_Heartx]

Babs/McC are just letting the team coast, and last 20 games he's going to start cracking the whip.

PLAY DEFENSE, AYEAAAA
STOP THE PUCK, AYEAAA
SCORE GOALS, AYEAA

We'll be fine.