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#21 HomeNugget

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 12:05 AM

Anybody else up to watch the race tonight?

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 12:02 PM

Race results:

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes
2) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes
3) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes
4) Timo Glock, Toyota
5) Fernando Alonso, Renault
6) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota
7) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari
8) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari
9) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes
10) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber
11) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes
12) Jarno Trulli, Toyota*
13) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault
14) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault (Accident)
15) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber (Accident)
16) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari (Differential)
17) Felipe Massa, Ferrari (Suspension)
18) Nelson Piquet, Renault (Spin)
19) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota (Accident)
20) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes (Accident damage)

* Jarno Trulli was penalized 25 seconds after passing under the safety car period near the end of the race.

Sebastian Vettel has been penalized 10 grid spot for the next race after his crash with Robert Kubica near the end of the race. Vettel and Red Bull Racing were also fined $50,000 for driving around with a damaged car for two laps before he parked it.

Amazing race overall!

Edited by commadore183, 02 April 2009 - 09:23 AM.

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 09:33 AM

Oh boy...

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McLaren’s Lewis Hamilton has been disqualified from last weekend’s Australian Grand Prix after a second stewards’ investigation on Thursday decided both he and his team had provided ‘misleading' evidence during a hearing held after the Melbourne race.


Apparently, McLaren and Hamilton misled the stewards regarding the Trulli/Hamilton incident, where Trulli spun off the track and Hamilton passed him, but then allowed Trulli back by, fearing a penalty from the stewards.

Revised results:

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes
2) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes
3) Jarno Trulli, Toyota
4) Timo Glock, Toyota
5) Fernando Alonso, Renault
6) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota
7) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari
8) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari
9) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes
10) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber
11) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes
12) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault
13) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault (accident)
14) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber (accident)
15) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari (differential)
16) Felipe Massa, Ferrari (suspension)
17) Nelson Piquet Jr, Renault (spun off)
18) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota (accident)
19) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes (crash damage)
20) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes (disqualified)
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Posted 02 April 2009 - 12:08 PM

McLaren's record of being hit by FIA fines and disqualficiations over the past years is staggering!

But as far as I am concerned, their own fault. I bet Ron Dennis is glad he is not in charge anymore, though he still sits at the top, of course. dry.gif

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 10:13 AM

A few things:

1) The first race was awesome,a great ending (thanks to Vettel tongue.gif ). It's great that the "crappy" teams are fast at least right now. Haven't been this excited over a F1 season since the late 90's.

2) Hamilton is a liar,gotta love that.

3) Race starts 5AM ET for you guys on Sunday(noon for me,Red Wings' Western Canada/West Coast road games start 5-5.30AM),who's going to watch? Surely Commodore183 will?

Edited by FinRedWing, 03 April 2009 - 10:17 AM.

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#26 commadore183

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 12:54 PM

QUOTE (FinRedWing @ April 3, 2009 - 11:13AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
3) Race starts 5AM ET for you guys on Sunday(noon for me,Red Wings' Western Canada/West Coast road games start 5-5.30AM),who's going to watch? Surely Commodore183 will?


You bet I will biggrin.gif I've been getting up early for F1 races for a few years now, so it isn't any real problem for me.

And of note from this weekend's race:

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Brawn GP’s Rubens Barrichello has been handed a penalty by the Sepang race stewards after his car needed a new gearbox following Friday practice for this weekend’s Malaysian Grand Prix. Barrichello will drop five places on the grid as a result of the change.


http://www.formula1....009/4/9128.html

The regulations state that the gearbox must last 4 race weekends.

And now the Driver's points standings after the first race (unofficial until after 14 April tongue.gif)

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes: 10
2) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes: 8
3) Jarno Trulli, Toyota: 6
4) Timo Glock, Toyota: 5
5) Fernando Alonso, Renault: 4
6) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota: 3
7) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 2
8) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 1
9) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes: 0
10) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber: 0
11) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes: 0
12) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault: 0
13) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault: 0
14) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber: 0
15) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari: 0
16) Felipe Massa, Ferrari: 0
17) Nelson Piquet, Renault: 0
18) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota: 0
19) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes: 0
20) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes: 0

Constructor's Points (unofficial until after 14 April tongue.gif)

1) Brawn-Mercedes: 18
2) Toyota: 11
3) Renault: 4
4) Williams-Toyota: 3
5) Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 3
6) Force India-Mercedes: 0
7) BMW Sauber: 0
8) Red Bull-Renault: 0
9) Ferrari: 0
10) McLaren-Mercedes: 0
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 01:16 PM

As the wheel turns in this soap opera called Formula One...

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Lewis Hamilton faces the threat of suspension or disqualification from the F1 World Championship after he was accused of 'deliberately misleading' the FIA race stewards...

However, the situation contravenes the International Sporting Code and is viewed as so grave that the FIA have it within their power to pursue the matter further.

A FIA spokesperson confirmed: "Given the seriousness of this matter, we cannot rule out further action at this stage."

As Hamilton has been excluded from the race at Melbourne's Albert Park, should motor sport's world governing body take up the case, only two additional punishments are open to them.

One would be to suspend Hamilton from a further race or races, or alternatively they could disqualify him from the Championship altogether.


When was the last time someone was disqualified from a season in F1? I know the Tyrrell team was nailed about a controversy about their water system back in the 70s/80s, but I can't recall any other situation.
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Posted 03 April 2009 - 06:12 PM

If he gets any further punishment expect huge backlash.

And I dont get this whole defuser issue thats going on, but if it means the lesser teams are doing well now I hope nothing changes. Knowing F1 they'll bend over to the big 3 teams who won be happy at whats going on.

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 10:11 AM

Qualifying results (highlight to read):


1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes
2) Jarno Trulli, Toyota
3) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault
4) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes
5) Timo Glock, Toyota
6) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota
7) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault
8) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber
9) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari
10) Fernando Alonso, Renault
11) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber
12) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota
13) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes
14) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes
15) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari
16) Felipe Massa, Ferrari
17) Nelson Piquet Jr, Renault
18) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes
19) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes
20) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 01:52 PM

Hell yehs Jenson!!

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Posted 04 April 2009 - 11:40 PM

Not to side-track things, but is it me, or does the attendance for every F1 race weekend in Sepang seem sparse?

Seems every year there are alot of empty seats...Not that Bernie, & Max care; as long as they get their millions rolleyes.gif

And to think there isn't a race in N. America thumbdown.gif

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 04:31 PM

Race results (highlight to read):

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes
2) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber
3) Timo Glock, Toyota
4) Jarno Trulli, Toyota
5) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes
6) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault
7) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes
8) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota
9) Felipe Massa, Ferrari
10) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari
11) Fernando Alonso, Renault
12) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota
13) Nelson Piquet, Renault
14) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari
15) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault
16) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari
17) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes
18) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes
19) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber
20) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes

The race was cut short due to rain before the 75% mark of the race, so half points will be awarded. I'll post the points later when I'm not as tired as I am now tongue.gif

Edited by commadore183, 18 April 2009 - 06:01 PM.

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Posted 05 April 2009 - 04:50 PM

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Posted 06 April 2009 - 07:31 AM

World Driver Points (highlight to read):

1) Jenson Button, Brawn-Mercedes: 15
2) Rubens Barrichello, Brawn-Mercedes: 10
3) Jarno Trulli, Toyota: 8.5
4) Timo Glock, Toyota: 8
5) Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber: 4
6) Fernando Alonso, Renault: 4
7) Nico Rosberg, Williams-Toyota: 3.5
8) Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 2
9) Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault: 1.5
10) Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes: 1
11) Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 1
12) Adrian Sutil, Force India-Mercedes: 0
13) Felipe Massa, Ferrari: 0
14) Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India-Mercedes: 0
15) Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota: 0
16) Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull-Renault: 0
17) Nelson Piquet Jr, Renault: 0
18) Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari: 0
19) Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber: 0
20) Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes: 0

World Constructor's Points (highlight to read):

1) Brawn-Mercedes: 25
2) Toyota: 16.5
3) BMW Sauber: 4
4) Renault: 4
5) Williams-Toyota: 3.5
6) Toro Rosso-Ferrari: 3
7) Red Bull-Renault: 1.5
8) McLaren-Mercedes: 1
9) Force India-Mercedes: 0
10) Ferrari: 0

Next Race will the the Chinese Grand Prix on April 19th.

On April 14th, the International Court of Appeals will hear the appeals from Ferrari, Red Bull, Renault, and BMW Sauber over the design of the diffusers from the Brawn, Toyota, and Williams teams. The protests involve the diffusers having more volume due to taking advantage of a gray area in the rules regarding the diffuser and the rear crash structure.

If the ICoA rules the diffusers legal, then the matter will end and the other teams may try to come up with a trick diffuser like Toyota, Brawn, and Williams. Not sure of the decision can be appealed further, though.

If the ICoA rules the diffusers illegal, then one of several things can happen:
*The three teams (Brawn, Toyota, and Williams) will be disqualified from the fist two races
*The results from the first two races will remain unchanged, but there may be a point deduction
*Like the mass damper issue from a few years ago, nothing will happen to past race results or the points

I'm sure there are other options that can be exercised, but that's all I have at the top of my head.

Edited by commadore183, 18 April 2009 - 06:01 PM.

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 11:54 AM

McLaren called to appear before the WMSC

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The FIA has released the following statement:

"Vodafone McLaren Mercedes has been invited to appear before an extraordinary meeting of the FIA World Motor Sport Council in Paris on Wednesday, 29 April, 2009, to answer charges that, in breach of Article 151c of the International Sporting Code, it

- on 29 March, 2009, told the stewards of the Australian Grand Prix that no instructions were given to Hamilton in Car No. 1 to allow Trulli in Car no. 9 to pass when both cars were behind the safety car, knowing this statement to be untrue;

- procured its driver Hamilton the current World Champion, to support and confirm this untrue statement to the stewards;

- although knowing that as a direct result of its untrue statement to the stewards, another driver and a rival team had been unfairly penalised, made no attempt to rectify the situation either by contacting the FIA or otherwise;

- on 2 April, 2009, at a second hearing before the stewards of the Australian Grand Prix, (meeting in Malaysia) made no attempt to correct the untrue statement of 29 March but, on the contrary, continued to maintain that the statement was true, despite being allowed to listen to a recording of the team instructing Hamilton to let Trulli past and despite being given more than one opportunity to correct its false statement;

- on 2 April, 2009, at the second stewards' hearing, procured its driver Hamilton to continue to assert the truth of the false statement given to the stewards on 29 March, while knowing that what he was saying to the stewards was not true."


And in true Obama-like fashion, McLaren threw someone under the bus regarding this case:
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This morning, Dave Ryan was suspended from his position as sporting director of the Vodafone McLaren Mercedes team.


McLaren's press release on Dave Ryan's involvement in Australia GP controversy

McLaren's press release regarding the WMSC's invitation
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Posted 07 April 2009 - 02:52 PM

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Posted 15 April 2009 - 11:08 AM

Legal

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The FIA International Court of Appeal (ICA) has rejected protests against the diffusers used by the Brawn, Toyota and Williams teams, after concluding that their ‘double decker’ designs comply with the 2009 regulations.


The matter is now closed. On to Shanghai!
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Posted 15 April 2009 - 09:07 PM

QUOTE (commadore183 @ April 15, 2009 - 11:08AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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The matter is now closed. On to Shanghai!

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 05:12 PM

Ferrari ditched the Kers system,and from speed's coverage of practise last night it seems as though Renault has ditched it as well.However Ferrari's straight line speed doesn't seem to be affected as Massa hit 195 mph at the end of the longest straight.Until Ferrari and the other usual contenders can re-design their cars with the diffusers it'll be a runaway for the Brawn GP team.Was anybody else surprised about Sutil's time last night,he was 11th overall,and beat out big names like Massa,Raikinen,Hamilton,and Alonso,while his teamate was 20th.Bmw seemed to be struggling as they are over 1.8 seconds back of Button.I guess this track,seeing as how fast it is,will show how much more the diffusers mean at higher speeds.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 06:34 AM

hell yeah Alonso 2nd biggrin.gif biggrin.gif he will win tomorrow
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