roboturner 562 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 I hate to bring this up again but Puck Daddy has a mini documentary on the love and hate of sid. link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spyder 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 He'd be alright in my book if the NHL and EVERY single media outlet wasn't harping about him 24/7 putting him up on a pedastal and saying this is your hockey god, worship him. I don't see any NHL commercials featuring anyone except Crosby. Crosby is not the type of player the NHL should be using as their icon and neither is Ovetchkin, they aren't iconic legends, leaders, or heros, they just score goals. I played in high school and you see their type, and you live to blast them with the hardest open ice hit you can think of. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 The fans are funny. The interviewer asks "Why are you a Crosby fan?" And every fan responds "Because he's the best ever." Or something like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atariboy 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 I guy I feel bad for is Malkin, clearly the best player nobody talks about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 (edited) I guy I feel bad for is Malkin, clearly the best player nobody talks about. I'd bet money that Malkin actually prefers it that way. Anyone with half a brain wouldn't want any part of the pressure that Crosby has. The people that matter know all they need to know about Malkin. He's fine. Edited March 22, 2009 by Broken 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 I'd take Malkin over Crosby every day of the week. But, did anyone else see they guy with the epic mustache? That was like Fumanchu level greatest for a mustache.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stolsanov 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 I don't mind Crosby, I don't get why fans hate him because he gets so much attention. He has nothing to do with that. He might not care that they show him on every sports channel/article or he may hate it he has no control over it. The same fans would love it if Kovalchuk, Thornton, Datsyuk, Gaborik (if he actually played) got all the attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeyfreak_09 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 First of all Crosby and Ovechkin are both GREAT players. Yes, Crosby does whine whine quite a bit and doesn't fight in the fairest manner but it bugs the hell out of me when people say he SUCKS. I can guarantee that Crosby is a better hockey player then every single person that says he sucks. Go ahead, make signs that show him sucking on a soother (pacifer, whatever you call it) because he does whine alot but don't try to say he sucks. I don't mind some of Ovechkin's celebrations, maybe when he scores a great goal or something but after every goal he jumps into the glass and acts like it's the game winner in the SCF. What bothers me is when he scored his 50th. He put his stick on the ice and pretended it was on fire and he was cooling it off. He signaled for his teammates to come over and do it with him but they didn't want to embarrass themselves with something so stupid and just patted him on the head. It also annoys me when he does stupid stuff like hold his glove to his ear or sit on the ice after a goal and call his teammates over to him like hes the s*** and everyone should tend to him. And in regards to the mini-doc, about crosby just scoring rebound goals or empty netters. Crosby isn't a sniper like Ovechkin, but he's a great passer. Don't forget, Ovechkin is 2 years older then Crosby and at a young age 2 years can mean alot. Im not saying in two years Crosby will be a better player than Ovechkin or will be scoring more but just remember that. Either way neither of them are on the Wings so no Stanley Cup for them this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 i feel really sorry for Pittsburgh fans, they got Mario and Crosby for leadership,...we got Yzerman and lidstrom,...doesn't seem fair does it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) "Why are you a Crosby fan?" Because he . Truely the sign of a mature, capable, captain figure to be promoted ad nauseam by the NHL and paid millions of dollars as a child role model. Edited March 23, 2009 by Jedi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) I guess I'm in the minority (by the article's suggestion) who thinks all this Crosby hate is ridiculous and silly. He's a superstar player, in fact, easily one of the top 5 in the NHL. While the claim that he's a whiner has merit (anyone who saw the 2008 playoffs should say the same), all of the other whinges and vitriol hurled at him are highly exaggerated and are not to be taken seriously at all. Edited March 23, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 When people say Crosby "sucks" they don't mean "he sucks at hockey." Last time I checked, saying someone "sucks" seeks to encompass that person entirely. And Crosby has done/said more than enough stupid things to warrant that label. It comes down to this: a lot of people hate Crosby because he comes off as a dick - he rarely comes off as a down to earth, likeable guy. People don't like to see assholes succeed. Since Crosby is definitely successful when it comes to hockey, hes hated by a ton of hockey fans. And those fans proceed to ***** about how much hes on TV, because if you know that an ******* is succeeding, you sure as hell dont want to be reminded of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 "Why are you a Crosby fan?" Because he . Truely the sign of a mature, capable, captain figure to be promoted ad nauseam by the NHL and paid millions of dollars as a child role model. HAHA! "....and Crosby punching the lower half" On a more serious note, the first hit that Crosby threw was right to the back of the head of whoever he and his teammate were ganging up on. All kinds of dirty in that fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 "Why are you a Crosby fan?" Because he . Truely the sign of a mature, capable, captain figure to be promoted ad nauseam by the NHL and paid millions of dollars as a child role model. Ya, he punched him right in the family jewels.....THAT like head shots should be eliminated, or returned in kind (We dont need Bettman getting Crosby pregnant...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 "Why are you a Crosby fan?" Because he . Truely the sign of a mature, capable, captain figure to be promoted ad nauseam by the NHL and paid millions of dollars as a child role model. I don't know if that fight was funnier than the "Semin playing the bongos" fight.....but it was extremely comical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 I guess I'm in the minority (by the article's suggestion) who thinks all this Crosby hate is ridiculous and silly. He's a superstar player, in fact, easily one of the top 5 in the NHL. While the claim that he's a whiner has merit (anyone who saw the 2008 playoffs should say the same), all of the other whinges and vitriol hurled at him are highly exaggerated and are not to be taken seriously at all. Easily one of the top 5? Let's see. Ovechkin, Malkin, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Chara all have strong arguments to be ahead of Crosby. I can think of a few other players who could be placed ahead of Crosby as well, but I think I've made my point, by listing more than five players who could definitely be considered better than Crosby. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Easily one of the top 5? Let's see. Ovechkin, Malkin, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Chara all have strong arguments to be ahead of Crosby. I can think of a few other players who could be placed ahead of Crosby as well, but I think I've made my point, by listing more than five players who could definitely be considered better than Crosby. According to you? Naw, Crosby is definitely one of the top 5 players in the league. Chara is a great player, but I think you are alone in thinking he is better then Crosby. Last year in the playoffs, Zetterberg made a great argument for his position in the top 5, but both he and Lidstrom have had mediocre years, especially by their standards. But I think I've made my point, by listing reasons why Crosby is a Top 5 player...? Honestly though, thats just my two cents. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Easily one of the top 5? Let's see. Ovechkin, Malkin, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Chara all have strong arguments to be ahead of Crosby. I can think of a few other players who could be placed ahead of Crosby as well, but I think I've made my point, by listing more than five players who could definitely be considered better than Crosby. Lol. This is your opinion, eva. Not a fact. You really need to learn the difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 Lol. This is your opinion, eva. Not a fact. You really need to learn the difference. I was simply disputing the use of "easily" in the earlier post. Easily is certainly inaccurate. He may well be top 5...but I wouldn't say he gets there easily, as there are many players who can argue for that ranking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 I was simply disputing the use of "easily" in the earlier post. Easily is certainly inaccurate. He may well be top 5...but I wouldn't say he gets there easily, as there are many players who can argue for that ranking. Many would say easily. Many would say not easily. This is probably the case for every player you mentioned except for Zetterberg, Lidstrom and Chara who most would say not at all. But please, let's not get into it any further. This topic isn't about comparing apples and oranges which is without a doubt your favourite thing to do at LGW. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 I can't stand Crosby simply because of the way he handled the All Star Game debacle, and how he rubbed it in our noses that he was there despite being genuinely injured... unlike certain other players who were just resting. I was more amused by his attention, whining and donkey punching tendancies before that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted March 23, 2009 i feel really sorry for Pittsburgh fans, they got Mario and Crosby for leadership,...we got Yzerman and lidstrom,...doesn't seem fair does it? You will never find a bigger Yzerman fan than me - but if the wings could have had Mario instead, I'd be all up on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 You will never find a bigger Yzerman fan than me - but if the wings could have had Mario instead, I'd be all up on that. Mario instead of Yzerman? Are you serious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McCartyFanForLife 17 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 You will never find a bigger Yzerman fan than me - but if the wings could have had Mario instead, I'd be all up on that. Your second statement contradicts the first. If you would have rather had Mario, then there are plenty of bigger Yzerman fans than you. Pittsburgh can continue its love affair with Mario and Crosby. I'd rather have Yzerman than both of those players on my team. Nobody beats THE Captain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted March 23, 2009 (edited) In a heartbeat. He played through as much pain, probably more, he scored at a much faster clip, was almost as good defensively (hell, for part of his career he was better defensively). Mario averaged abbout 1.7 points per game in both the playoffs and the reg season, Yzerman about .66 and .9 respectively. Both went without some salary for the good of the team. Yzerman: 1988-89 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy 1997-98 NHL Conn Smythe Trophy 1999-00 NHL Frank J. Selke Trophy 2002-03 NHL Bill Masterton Trophy 3 Stanley Cups 1 Oly Gold Medal 1 Wrld Cup Mario: 1984-85 NHL Calder Memorial Trophy 1985-86 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy 1987-88 NHL Art Ross Trophy 1987-88 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy 1987-88 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy 1988-89 NHL Art Ross Trophy 1990-91 NHL Conn Smythe Trophy 1991-92 NHL Art Ross Trophy 1991-92 NHL Conn Smythe Trophy 1992-93 NHL Art Ross Trophy 1992-93 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy 1992-93 NHL Bill Masterton Trophy 1992-93 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy 1995-96 NHL Art Ross Trophy 1995-96 NHL Hart Memorial Trophy 1995-96 NHL Lester B. Pearson Trophy 1996-97 NHL Art Ross Trophy 2 Stanley Cups 1 Oly Gold 2 World Cups Edited March 23, 2009 by micah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
