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Call it Detroit Stadium. No corporate name, don't even name it after anyone. Name it after the city.

According to this guy (can't tell how up to date this is), naming rights are worth between 15 and 195 million.

If (more likely when) the Wings get a new arena, it will have a corporate name. We all better get used to the idea.

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Yankee Stadium, Soldier Field, Fenway Park......those are names.

Jobing.com Arena? I pray to God we don't see anything that lame terrorizing the city. If the team is going to have to use public funds to pay for a new stadium, then the stadium/arena/sports complex should be named after the city. I would only think that's fair.

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According to this guy (can't tell how up to date this is), naming rights are worth between 15 and 195 million.

If (more likely when) the Wings get a new arena, it will have a corporate name. We all better get used to the idea.

Hot-N-Ready Arena!

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what about the giant empty lots used as parking right now at the intersection of woodward and the fisher freeway?

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source...917040358744395

i'd like to really see the downtown area of detroit expanded; instead of keep building up the current downtown and leaving the rest of the city's land to its devices, why not branch out?

Those dirt lots are where people park for Tigers and Lions games.

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I am all for building an arena in windsor... if the arena is like the WFCU arena... that place kicks ass.

if not, then keep the Joe EXACTLY where and how it is right now.... Those haters of it can just stay away :)

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It'll be near Fox Town and it needs to happen. Just looking from a business sense. Look at how much more life there is around Comerica/Ford Field before and after a game. There are places in the stadium to eat or across the driveway, it's not even a street. They need more private boxes, more comfortable and spacious seating and as someone mentioned the men's restrooms suck big time. In the winter it really sucks for people coming off the street level and going up thsoe stairs. New stairs inside would be a huge plus, which all newer stadiums have. It needs to be not so massive feeling as the Palace is. If you're at the top you feel a mile away but other arenas don't always feel that way. Plus it's time for Cobo to expand. It's just not up to what most newer convention centers are now.

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what about the giant empty lots used as parking right now at the intersection of woodward and the fisher freeway?

Those dirt lots are where people park for Tigers and Lions games.

oh do people park in those huge empty lots for parking?

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Yankee Stadium, Soldier Field, Fenway Park......those are names.

Jobing.com Arena? I pray to God we don't see anything that lame terrorizing the city. If the team is going to have to use public funds to pay for a new stadium, then the stadium/arena/sports complex should be named after the city. I would only think that's fair.

The person who owned the Boston Red Sox when Fenway Park was built, also owned the Fenway Realty Company...

As far as your second point, you can also look at it this way. If a team is going to use public funding, by selling the naming rights it (in theory) would enable them take less public money.

And also, the Yankees are worth about 1.2 billion. Da Bears about 945 million. The Red Sox are worth about 620 million. The Red Wings are worth about 303 million. All those teams are in a much better position (if the Bears and Sox were to build a new stadium) to not take money for naming rights.

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what about the giant empty lots used as parking right now at the intersection of woodward and the fisher freeway?

oh do people park in those huge empty lots for parking?

Rumor on the street is, if they were to build a new arena out by Hockeytown it would include a parking structure. This would help alleviate the problem with building it on the current dirt lots and taking up valuable surface area. Again, just rumors I've heard that have no validity.

From a structural point of view, I hope they build the seating similar to the Joe with a little extra leg room. Not really a bad seat in the house.

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Play the games at Comerica during the cold months and move over to Ford Field for the rest of the season Problem solved.

Ok I'm kidding about that but, the way the city is moving on passing the Cobo expansion I just don't see them willing the spend the money on the Wings getting a new arena. I'm not sure Illitch will be willing to pony up that much money without some incentive. Plus in his Cobo contract I believe he gets alot of city expenses paid for such as cops at the game. I hold out hope for a new arena but, it just seemed to hit at a bad time for his contract to be up. 5 years ago I would of said no doubt he would be getting help from the city and be building a new arena.

The only way I see it happening is if they move their asses on the cobo expansion and decide they need to take over the Joe then I believe the city would end up funding an arena.

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Ilitch is a very smart man, he bought property behind fox theatre and hockeytown cafe', very smart idea to put a new stadium behind there, put all his places together to gather more revenue from all the sports fans. I see a new stadium for the 2011 season.

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Speaking from someone who has seen an NHL game in places like Dallas, Columbus, and Chicago, I can tell you that Joe Louis is past its prime. Sure, its awesome to see a game in, but the arena sucks. Its the only sporting arena I can go to and have the privilege of waiting in line 15 minutes to use the restroom. Women have it much worse off. The American Airlines Center in Dallas is beautiful. Every seat has a good view, plenty of bathrooms, and there are many little shops and bars on each level.

Does the arena factor into my decision to buy tickets there? It does in a way. I live in Grand Rapids which puts me 3 hours away from Detroit and 3.5 hours from Chicago. If given the opportunity to see a game, I would rather travel to Chicago and see a game because the arena isn't run down and the tickets were always plentiful and cheaper. I will have some decisions to make next season when Chicago sells more tickets.

If Chicago wasn't a factor, I have an HDTV at home and part of me would rather stay at home and watch the game on that than travel to Detroit to see a game. If the arena was nicer, I would make more trips thats for sure.

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A new arena is sorely needed. Nightfall is right about the restroom situation. My wife was pregnant for most of this winter, and the long wait for the restrooms was the main reason that we decided not to go to a game this year (for those who aren't aware, pregnant women need to go A LOT and can't wait long). I think it's pretty sad when the restrooms become an important factor to consider when deciding whether or not to purchase tickets.

Also, I'm sure most of you have noticed that at the start of the 2nd and 3rd periods, about a quarter to half of the seats in the arena are empty, even during these SCF games. The reason is that the people can't even go to the restroom and get back to their seats before the intermission is over. Heck, even if you leave two minutes before the period ends, you'll be very lucky to make it back by the start of the next period. And God forbid if you want to use the restroom AND buy a beer. You'll be lucky to get back to your seat before the first commercial break of the period.

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I know this isn't the best part of the city but why not build the new rink, right at Michigan & Trumbull? From my memory there was a few empty lots in the area.

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When they do build a new arena, I hope they make it kind of like the Van Andel in Grand Rapids. I've been there to see a concert and to see the Griffins, both times were great. No obstructions at all!

I also hope they don't give it a dumb corporate name, it would almost be like a slap in the face to an economically depressed region like Detroit.

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