Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) Demand Versus in HD! Hello fellow Red Wings Fans and WOW Cable Customers! Did you enjoy many FSD and NBC high-definition games? Well you're going to be left in the 480i dark for many playoff games, that is because Versus on WOW (channel 306 in Michigan) is not offered in HD. So while you're used to watching games in 720p HD, you'll be reduced to standard 480i when watching Versus (yes, that's worse than 480p). So what should we do about it? COMPLAIN! How do we do it? Here you go: Online Channel Request Form - http://www1.wowway.com/event/module/moduleKeyword/ChanReq/ And\Or call them: (866) 496-9669 aka (866) 4-WOW-NOW When you call them be sure to note the Comcast offers Versus in HD, while they do not. They need to be mindful of their market, and the Michigan markets wants needs Versus in HD for Red Wings games. Normally I would speak with my dollars and switch service providers to get what I want, but WOW Cable is a great company, with great customer service, and their prices are much lower than Scamcast's non-promotional prices. Also, I've had nothing but bad experiences with Scamcast customer service. Now stop reading and start complaining! Edited April 29, 2009 by Holmstrom96 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixer 37 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 I feel for you guys. Definitely complain. In Canada, all the Wings games will be on TSN2 in HD by Bell ExpressVU.....and hopefully 5.1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) We can't see NHL in HD what so ever... stop whining spoiled americans Edited April 13, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 We can't see NHL in HD what so ever... stop whining spoiled americans That would have been my opinion a year ago, but once you watch hockey in HD you can't go back to standard def. It simply cannot be beat. 16:9 widescreen is an excellent format for sports, since the rinks\fields are all rectangular. The extra clarity of 720p and 1080i is simply amazing, with a good sounds system you feel like you are right there watching the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 I've been complaining to wow for 2 years. Funny they never mentioned that online form... just give me $10 off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManLuv4Clears 7 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 I did the channel request form when I upgraded to their HD package about 3 months ago. I didn't know Versus was an SD channel, so I was dissapointed. At any rate, I never heard back from them and I wouldn't get your hopes up as WOW is a pretty s***ty cable provider. You get what you pay for though, for $100 a month I have the digital package with like 25 HD channels and the second highest speed internet they offer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djohns74 3 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 This is a big reason why I just switched to AT&T U-verse. Great service with tons of HD, including VS, stupid fast internet, and all for basically the same price I was paying for WOW. No-brainer for me. Too bad it's availability is still somewhat limited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FLWINGSFAN4013 5 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 i get game 1 and dont get to see a tv one until game 5 if necessary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordie Howe hat trick 110 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 Either that or just put them on a network that we all can get...I hate having to stream them online, but such is life. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,793 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 Forget HD. They need to show more Wings games, and then I'll worry about whether they're in HD or not. If only atdhe.net wasn't showing these new s***ty quality streams, then I wouldn't care, but at this point it looks like the only Wings action I'll see is in highlights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 This is a big reason why I just switched to AT&T U-verse. Great service with tons of HD, including VS, stupid fast internet, and all for basically the same price I was paying for WOW. No-brainer for me. Too bad it's availability is still somewhat limited. I wish U-Verse was available in my neighborhood, my parent's have it and amazing. The only other option we have is comcast and I WILL NEVER give those crooks another dime (directly). I know satellite's available, but I have a few cable only HD tivo's, so that's out of the question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sully75 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 I'm a Kansas Citian. I've had ComCast for years. I definitely recommend AT&T UVerse. We just switched, it saves about $150 a month, and we have Vs in HD (though we did with ComCast, as well). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) I did the channel request form when I upgraded to their HD package about 3 months ago. I didn't know Versus was an SD channel, so I was dissapointed. At any rate, I never heard back from them and I wouldn't get your hopes up as WOW is a pretty s***ty cable provider. You get what you pay for though, for $100 a month I have the digital package with like 25 HD channels and the second highest speed internet they offer. Yeah, I've got the HD and digital package, the slowest internet speed (2 meg) and I only pay $76 a month! Edited April 13, 2009 by Holmstrom96 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 My stupid cable company, Broadstripe, doesn't have it in HD either. It really sucks. Now that I've seen it in HD it sucks when it's not.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Cub 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 I've had WOW since the day they started offering service on Westland. It is a good company but pisses me off we don't get Versus HD, NHL Network or NHL Center Ice. Hell I'd be willing to pay but thats not even an option. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) Hell, I was thinking about upgrading to the HD satellite and getting an HD receiver but I'm not sure now that I want my expectations to be this high. Personally I've never had a problem with SD broadcasts. I kinda want to see one in HD now, though, since my Samsung HDTV has full 1080p support (probably only 720i/p at best for DirecTV). Edited April 13, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Dub 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 (edited) It's a shame that we still have major networks still broadcast just some shows in HD and the rest in SD. By the time we are fully converted to HD (as in 24/7 every channel, every show) the Japanese will likely have gone to some crazy stuff like the Star Trek holo deck where you can watch the game as if you were at the live game. Edited April 13, 2009 by C-Dub Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Dub 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 Hell, I was thinking about upgrading to the HD satellite and getting an HD receiver but I'm not sure now that I want my expectations to be this high. Personally I've never had a problem with SD broadcasts. I kinda want to see one in HD now, though, since my Samsung HDTV has full 1080p support (probably only 720i/p at best for DirecTV). On my DirecTV receiver I have the option for 1080i. My TV only goes up to 720p though, and I know they support that. How do you live with a 1080p TV watching SD broadcasts? Everytime I switch to a SD channel my eyes need some major adjusting, haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 13, 2009 On my DirecTV receiver I have the option for 1080i. My TV only goes up to 720p though, and I know they support that. How do you live with a 1080p TV watching SD broadcasts? Everytime I switch to a SD channel my eyes need some major adjusting, haha. It looks f'ed up to me if I stretch it to full screen, which is why I use the receiver option (think there's a TV option too) to keep those bars on the side as a normal 4:3 or whatever the regular broadcast ratio is. Now that I'm looking kinda silly I might talk to DirecTV and see if they'll upgrade the satellite/receiver for free/small cost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VladyIBELIEVE16 257 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 Before this season started Time Warner Cable here in CA finally picked up Versus HD as well as NHL Network HD soo happy! It was worth the wait! Good luck to you guys! I am sure it's only a matter of time before it's all HD anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-Dub 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 It looks f'ed up to me if I stretch it to full screen, which is why I use the receiver option (think there's a TV option too) to keep those bars on the side as a normal 4:3 or whatever the regular broadcast ratio is. Now that I'm looking kinda silly I might talk to DirecTV and see if they'll upgrade the satellite/receiver for free/small cost. If you want to do that, do not call the regular customer support. I tried for them to upgrade me to for free and they said the couldn't do it. Instead, I called to disconnect service. The guy asked why and I said because you want to charge me $150 for the HD-DVR, plus $99 for installation and I can get both cheaper by breaking my contract with you and switching to Dish. He was more than happy to talk to me about that. Ended up getting the HD-DVR for $10 shipping, $50 for installation, plus 1 year of free HD service. If you have been with them for a while, always pay on time and order maybe one or two extra packages (I have the Sports Pack + Sunday Ticket) they are your best friend. Good luck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hockeytown9321 0 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 On my DirecTV receiver I have the option for 1080i. My TV only goes up to 720p though, and I know they support that. How do you live with a 1080p TV watching SD broadcasts? Everytime I switch to a SD channel my eyes need some major adjusting, haha. If you have a 720p TV, you also have 1080i. The p stands for progressive scan, which means all of the pixels are refreshed at whatever refresh rate you have. the i in 1080i stands for interlaced, which means that your're getting more pixels than 720p, but you only get half them at a time. No one broadcasts in 1080p yet. I prefer 720p over 1080i for sports. I have WOW, and when I got my HDTV, I also started a subscription to Dish network. They offer an HD only package, which is fairly reasonably priced. But reception does indeed suck when it rains. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 If you have a 720p TV, you also have 1080i. The p stands for progressive scan, which means all of the pixels are refreshed at whatever refresh rate you have. the i in 1080i stands for interlaced, which means that your're getting more pixels than 720p, but you only get half them at a time. No one broadcasts in 1080p yet. I prefer 720p over 1080i for sports. I have WOW, and when I got my HDTV, I also started a subscription to Dish network. They offer an HD only package, which is fairly reasonably priced. But reception does indeed suck when it rains. Yup, this information is correct. The highest res the HDTV is broadcast on (cable\sattelite\OTA\whatever) is 720p\1080i. I too have a 1080p TV, but the only time I get full 1080p is when I watch blu-ray movies. I love Red Wings in HD on my 42" LCD tv! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 13, 2009 If you want to do that, do not call the regular customer support. I tried for them to upgrade me to for free and they said the couldn't do it. Instead, I called to disconnect service. The guy asked why and I said because you want to charge me $150 for the HD-DVR, plus $99 for installation and I can get both cheaper by breaking my contract with you and switching to Dish. He was more than happy to talk to me about that. Ended up getting the HD-DVR for $10 shipping, $50 for installation, plus 1 year of free HD service. If you have been with them for a while, always pay on time and order maybe one or two extra packages (I have the Sports Pack + Sunday Ticket) they are your best friend. Good luck! Funny thing here. I didn't get the free year of HD service, but we got the $295 install fee waived and will just pay $5 more per month, installment tomorrow. I remember doing a similar retention department thing with AT&T years ago, but hadn't even though of doing this again. Thanks for the heads up! It's getting installed tomorrow morning so will be watching the playoffs in HD (if/when available). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) Just a reminder: It looks like only some of the games will be televised on FSD. If you're a WOW Cable customer that means that you won't be able to watch some of round two's playoff games in HD: Game 1 - VS (No HD for WOW customers) Game 2 - NBC HD Game 3 - FSD HD Game 4 - VS (No HD for WOW customers) Game 5 - FSD HD Game 6 - FSD HD Game 7 - FSD HD So if you're not satisified with that, let them know! They're a great company, they just need more HD offerings, especially Versus in the Michigan market! Online Channel Request Form - http://www1.wowway.com/event/module/moduleKeyword/ChanReq/ And\Or call them: (866) 496-9669 aka (866) 4-WOW-NOW Demand Versus in HD! Hello fellow Red Wings Fans and WOW Cable Customers! Did you enjoy many FSD and NBC high-definition games? Well you're going to be left in the 480i dark for many playoff games, that is because Versus on WOW (channel 306 in Michigan) is not offered in HD. So while you're used to watching games in 720p HD, you'll be reduced to standard 480i when watching Versus (yes, that's worse than 480p). So what should we do about it? COMPLAIN! How do we do it? Here you go: Online Channel Request Form - http://www1.wowway.com/event/module/moduleKeyword/ChanReq/ And\Or call them: (866) 496-9669 aka (866) 4-WOW-NOW When you call them be sure to note the Comcast offers Versus in HD, while they do not. They need to be mindful of their market, and the Michigan markets wants needs Versus in HD for Red Wings games. Normally I would speak with my dollars and switch service providers to get what I want, but WOW Cable is a great company, with great customer service, and their prices are much lower than Scamcast's non-promotional prices. Also, I've had nothing but bad experiences with Scamcast customer service. Now stop reading and start complaining! Edited April 29, 2009 by Holmstrom96 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites