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#1 Kwame_Kilpatrick

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 07:59 PM

i know most fans will remember sergei fedorov very well. he is in my humble opinion one of the most explosive and best wings ever. maybe he was pricy and a fancy player but he was one of the most clutch playoff guys ever for red wings and he had almost 1000 point for us. he was also a leader and probably the best player on 3 stanley cup clubs for us. no one has wore the number 91 since sergei the fancy. do u guys think wings will retire his number? i think so
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#2 Ms_Hockey

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:01 PM

I really don't know. Have we retired numbers of players who didn't end their career with the Wings?
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A new Lemieux-McCarty fight, as seen by internet forum posters.

Lemieux cheapshots a player with his walker, drawing the ire of D-Mac, who hobbles over. They draw their canes, salute, and cross them, then proceed to repeatedly whack eachother over the heads while hanging onto the bench with their other hands for balance. D-Mac then hits Lemieux's hip, which gives out, Lemieux feebly falls to the ground, crumpling as D-Mac continues to land barely noticeable Yoda-esque cane strikes. Lemieux's age begins catching up to him, crying "what a world, what a world..!" as he melts into a puddle of goo.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:07 PM

QUOTE (Ms_Hockey @ April 26, 2009 - 08:01PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really don't know. Have we retired numbers of players who didn't end their career with the Wings?


See: Gordie Howe. Played a year (his last of the NHL) with the Hartford Whalers

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:07 PM

terry sawchuck, gordie howe, sid abel, all of these player finished outside detroit. sawchuck even played for toronto who was our arch rival
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:11 PM

Then maybe. He was a good player. Some people say he got cocky toward the end of his tenure with the Wings. Some people still boo him when he comes to the Joe, which just amazes me.
QUOTE (Datsyerberger @ January 19, 2009 - 01:32PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A new Lemieux-McCarty fight, as seen by internet forum posters.

Lemieux cheapshots a player with his walker, drawing the ire of D-Mac, who hobbles over. They draw their canes, salute, and cross them, then proceed to repeatedly whack eachother over the heads while hanging onto the bench with their other hands for balance. D-Mac then hits Lemieux's hip, which gives out, Lemieux feebly falls to the ground, crumpling as D-Mac continues to land barely noticeable Yoda-esque cane strikes. Lemieux's age begins catching up to him, crying "what a world, what a world..!" as he melts into a puddle of goo.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:14 PM

I doubt it. Between the holdout and the way that him and the Red Wings parted ways, I don't see it happening. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:14 PM

can someone post link off fedorov nike commercial where he is going through everybody? there is kind of a trumpet noise in the background, please post guys thanks
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (Kwame_Kilpatrick @ April 26, 2009 - 09:14PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
can someone post link off fedorov nike commercial where he is going through everybody? there is kind of a trumpet noise in the background, please post guys thanks



I think this was already posted in a commercial thread. Along with of other good ones.




http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Edited by ifonlyicouldskate, 26 April 2009 - 08:27 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:20 PM

Sure as hell hope not.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:42 PM

I was just thinking about whose numbers will be going in the rafters last night, here's what i came up with:

Locks: Lidstrom, Osgood

Probable: Shanahan, Zetterberg,Datsyuk (barring something unforseen happening to Z or Pav)

Possible: Fedorov -The messy break up is the only thing that puts him in this category,
Chelios-he played 7 seasons in Montreal and won a cup, 9 in Chicago and won 2 Norris Trophies, 9 in Detroit and won 2 Cups and will probably retire as a Wing....a very unique career, not many hall of famers split their career almost equally among 3 teams

Longshots/too early to tell- Draper, had an A, won 4 cups and made an Olympic team, Franzen- if he can keep up his production for the majority of his 11 year deal

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE (Ms_Hockey @ April 26, 2009 - 09:11PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Then maybe. He was a good player. Some people say he got cocky toward the end of his tenure with the Wings. Some people still boo him when he comes to the Joe, which just amazes me.

What amazes you about it? The fact he left or was it the fact he took the same money to leave and kicked
Detroit and it's fan in the Metaphorical NUTS!!!

I know he did do awesome things when he was here...if he wanted to leave he should of just said so.....
Should we retire his number here? I'm on the fence with this one.

Gordie played with Hartford to play with his kids who could fault him for that..... Feds left to leave.
Why should we?

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (StevieY'sguy @ April 26, 2009 - 09:42PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was just thinking about whose numbers will be going in the rafters last night, here's what i came up with:

Locks: Lidstrom, Osgood

Probable: Shanahan, Zetterberg,Datsyuk (barring something unforseen happening to Z or Pav)

Possible: Fedorov -The messy break up is the only thing that puts him in this category,
Chelios-he played 7 seasons in Montreal and won a cup, 9 in Chicago and won 2 Norris Trophies, 9 in Detroit and won 2 Cups and will probably retire as a Wing....a very unique career, not many hall of famers split their career almost equally among 3 teams

Longshots/too early to tell- Draper, had an A, won 4 cups and made an Olympic team, Franzen- if he can keep up his production for the majority of his 11 year deal

Lidstrom is the only lock. Osgood is in the probable category. If Z and Datsyuk do indeed stay in Detroit for their entire careers then probably. Shanahan, Federov, Chelios and Draper will not have their numbers retired.

Edited by Mike, 26 April 2009 - 08:59 PM.


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Posted 26 April 2009 - 08:59 PM

Fedorov is one of my all time favorite players.

With that said, should we retire #91? Absolutely not.

The only Wing that Should be considered in the future is Lidstrom.


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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:02 PM

No they wont and they shouldent.
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:06 PM

No. This conversation has happened several times.. There is a big difference on who will go to the hall of fame, and who will go in our rafters. Teams like Colorado can retire Ray Bourque if they want, but the only people on the team that will be retired are 1. Lidstrom and then 2. and 3. Pavel Datsyuk and Zetterberg might have a chance depending on how the next 10 years unfold.
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:09 PM

QUOTE (Mike @ April 26, 2009 - 07:58PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lidstrom is the only lock. Osgood is in the probable category. If Z and Datsyuk do indeed stay in Detroit for their entire careers then probably. Shanahan, Federov, Chelios and Draper will not have their numbers retired.

Agreed. The Wings have high standards for retiring numbers (unlike say the Avs dry.gif ). No way Fedorov has his number in the rafters at the Joe or any new arena. No disrespect to his time with the Wings, it just won't happen....
New season, New start! May the force be with the Wings this time!

#17 Ms_Hockey

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:10 PM

QUOTE (Hockeytown_Ryan @ April 26, 2009 - 09:48PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What amazes you about it? The fact he left or was it the fact he took the same money to leave and kicked
Detroit and it's fan in the Metaphorical NUTS!!!

I know he did do awesome things when he was here...if he wanted to leave he should of just said so.....
Should we retire his number here? I'm on the fence with this one.

Gordie played with Hartford to play with his kids who could fault him for that..... Feds left to leave.
Why should we?

Because from what I've been reading about the issue in general. Some say that Feds got cocky and left the team.. others say Feds was offered a contract that Detroit pulled on him when he went to sign it.

If it was, in fact, the latter.. then it amazes me.
QUOTE (Datsyerberger @ January 19, 2009 - 01:32PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A new Lemieux-McCarty fight, as seen by internet forum posters.

Lemieux cheapshots a player with his walker, drawing the ire of D-Mac, who hobbles over. They draw their canes, salute, and cross them, then proceed to repeatedly whack eachother over the heads while hanging onto the bench with their other hands for balance. D-Mac then hits Lemieux's hip, which gives out, Lemieux feebly falls to the ground, crumpling as D-Mac continues to land barely noticeable Yoda-esque cane strikes. Lemieux's age begins catching up to him, crying "what a world, what a world..!" as he melts into a puddle of goo.

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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:20 PM

Lidstrom yes, Fed's no.
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:22 PM

Not as long as an Illitch owns the team...
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Posted 26 April 2009 - 09:30 PM

Osgood most certainly should get his number retired, i absolutely disagree.Look at the comparison between Ozzie and Sawchuk:

Ozzie: He's won 3 cups with the wings, 2 cups as a playoff starter (and in '97 he played the majority of the regular season games) with another cup very possibly on the way. He's had 305 of his 389 (78.4% )wins in a red wings uniform, and 38 of his 49 (77.5%) shutouts in a Wings uniform

Sawchuk: won 3 cups as a Wing, all as a starter, he had 361 of his 447 (80.7%) win in a cup uniform and 85 of his 103 (82.5%) shutouts in Detroit.

Osgood will have just as many cups as a playoff starter and more total in a Wings uniform if the Wings win it this year. His win and shutout percentages as a wing are all very very close to Sawchuk's and he will almost certainly pass them if he plays a year or two more. He will be in the Hall, played most of his career in Detroit and is/was a fan favorite, it's a no brainer. Also, he did not go to Colorado and win a Cup, which would have been the equivalent of Sawchuk winning one in Toronto.






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