clayjoh 3 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 Has anyone heard if the speedy Draper as Bob Cole refers to him will be in the lineup as opposed to Kopecky floating out there ala Joe Thornton? Kopecky was invisible out there last series Also of interest is ice time comparison of key players available at www.nhl.com Already Anaheims big dogs(or dog turd in the case of Pronger) have already logged significantly more total time than any wings and time per game is very high for Getzlaff It's obvious this will factor in later in this series I predict Anaheim might just mail in game 1 at least Hoping for a big time stomp job on those greasers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 Helm>Draper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 Last article I saw said that Draper was seeking final doctor's approval today to play tomorrow. I agree that Kopecky was invisible in round 1, and the 4th line is definitely our weakest link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 Helm>Draper I know who I'd pick for faceoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maltbymaniac 13 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 i agree i think we drapes in the lineup to win them faceoffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 Kopecky or Maltby can sit.. i want my Drapes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltgator333 3 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 Draper in the lineup is a definite good thing in the playoffs. Say what you want about Kopy and Malts but Draper can skate circles around either of them. And win faceoffs with the best of them. And really, this is one series I wouldn't mind Aaron Downey being in the lineup one bit. Drapes centering Helm and Downey anyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 I know who I'd pick for faceoffs. I know who Id pick for everything else. And they say Downey is a one dimensional player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 Helm>Draper I know who I'd pick for faceoffs. ^^^^ What he said And really, this is one series I wouldn't mind Aaron Downey being in the lineup one bit. Drapes centering Helm and Downey anyone? No! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 I wouldn't mind Aaron Downey being in the lineup one bit. Drapes centering Helm and Downey anyone? Hell yeh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 Maltby wasn't very good at even strength, but I still like Malts-Helm-Drapes with Draper taking (and winning) the face-offs on the 4th line. This is going to be a GREAT series... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inultus 12 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 I would definitely take Draper over Maltby and Kopecky, are those the options? Keep Helm in, the guy was throwing amazing hits in round 1. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 You know, I was just pondering this last night at work. What I'd like to see is a 4th line of Koko-Drapes-Helm for the first game of the series vs Anaheim. Now I'm a Maltby fan, but if a team is going to goon it up, it's Ani. So since we don't have Lilja, and Hossa and Big Rig are too valuable to waste fighting, I say we send out Koko as the sacrificial lamb. If the Ducks take liberties, Koko faces The Stache (or Pronger- whatever) in game 1 and we spend the rest of the series with Downey-Draper-Helm. If they don't do anything, then sit Koko for Malts for the rest of the series unless Anaheim was just fooling the first game, in which case, procede with Plan A. Just make sure that Downey has his suitcase packed. He's still in GR at the moment, right? As far as just plain ability, I think Koko's the weakest link, with Malts a close second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lilja4mvp Report post Posted April 30, 2009 yes, please get draper back ASAP. we need someone to take pointless hooking penalites in the offensive zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymz99 2 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 Can't have Drapes without the Malts. These two go hand in hand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 According to MLive: General manager Ken Holland said center Kris Draper saw the doctor today and was ruled out for Games 1 and 2 against Anaheim. He'll be re-evaluated after that. Too bad his skill at the face off circle will be missed. Good to hear that Lils is skating and in drills a little bit at least. Hope he gets better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsMyWings13 4 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 That's to bad about Drapes. I'm glad to hear Lilja is skating, it's a damn shame that he's not available for the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stormboy 47 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 yes, please get draper back ASAP. we need someone to take pointless hooking penalites in the offensive zone. haha...i do seem to recall drapes getting rung up for a few of those this year. like others have said, though, i do think draper would be good to have in just for his faceoff ability. my only fear is that when drapes comes back, they'll sit helm just because he is the least experienced (allegedly) and he and draper are more similar type players. that being said, it's a tough call for me between kopy and malts of who to sit...but i think that a helm-draper-kopy/maltby line is the best option we have for the fourth line right now. kopy-draper-maltby to me is a bit scarier than helm-draper-kopy in terms of us having no energy or skill whatsoever on the fourth line. to me, helm-drapes-kopy makes the most sense because IF (and that's a big if) kopy can ramp up his physical play, that would be a big plus. for me, malts has little to no upside right now, and i think we have plenty of experience and penalty killing ability to make up for what little he has there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 im afraid kopecky is gonna get smashed by pronger again although kopecky did have a few nice hits last series i think draper would be a better fit as of in this particular series Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) What the f*ck is wrong with draper, he is on every practice, says he feels fine, but doctors rule him out for games... what kind of freakin injury is that, must be something really weird... Edited April 30, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wombat 26 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 What the f*ck is wrong with draper, he is on every practice, says he feels fine, but doctors rule him out for games... what kind of freakin injury is that, must be something really weird... The thing I keep thinking is that it has to be a concussion. What other "upper body injury" would allow him to practice, but also be bad enough that they declare him unable to play for the next 2 games... re-evaluate, and then out another 2 games? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetterbeard40 0 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 And really, this is one series I wouldn't mind Aaron Downey being in the lineup one bit. Drapes centering Helm and Downey anyone? Come on people lets get serious. If we have Aaron Downey in our lineup we will have issues. What is he going to do, go out and fight, spend 5 in the box, and then play the rest of his 4 minutes in ice time. He is useless in the playoffs because people dont fight, and otherwise, he is no good. We have our energy guy who hits and his name is Darren Helm. Even if we sat Malts or Kopy, Downey does not bring to the tabel what they do. You will not see him in the lineup at all, unless its to get his name on the cup late in the final. Our lineup looks great as is, with Draper in it will look even better. I would say to sit Kopy simply because of Malts experience and penalty killing ability. Move Helm over to winger. Drapes centers the 4th line, and we're laughing, cruising our way to the finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 personally i think babcock wont mess with the winning lineup.. and drapes is fine. regardless helm is awesome and much better then drapes imho. maybe get kopecky or maltby out for drapes or better yet s***head sammy... but no way should helm sit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 The thing I keep thinking is that it has to be a concussion. What other "upper body injury" would allow him to practice, but also be bad enough that they declare him unable to play for the next 2 games... re-evaluate, and then out another 2 games? You're not allowed to skate and work out with concussion symptoms otherwise Lilly would have been doing so for the last month plus. I've got to think something is broken. Not enough to bother him too much (like he'd let anything bother him) but not healed enough where he can go out there and play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted April 30, 2009 (edited) You're not allowed to skate and work out with concussion symptoms otherwise Lilly would have been doing so for the last month plus. I've got to think something is broken. Not enough to bother him too much (like he'd let anything bother him) but not healed enough where he can go out there and play. I agree, it doesn't seem like Drapes would have concussion problems. Don't know what that has to do with Lilja though. He never got a concussion. Edited April 30, 2009 by Doggy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
