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[Euro_Twins]

Oh yeah that 6 million/year mega super TV contract how could I forgot that *rofl* If they Coyotes are going to be relocated what other option is there right now? Seattle like I said is an afterthought they want the NBA 1 and NHL 2 that worked out well for Atlanta didn't it?

 

Honestly I think the BOG (if they have a brain) will push hard for QC because of all the gambles they'll want some staple incomes for the coming years and QC would provide that. The only US city I can see in the mix would be Hartford (long way to go still) but they'd want the NHL first instead of an afterthought.

 

Hartford didn't do so well before, what makes you think that would change now?

[Dominator2005]

Well NN are probably around 1.000 people QC would be 20.000 in the new arena do the math and imagine how hockeycrazy Canada especially Toronto and Montreal, QC. Giving them back the Nordiques would be a goldmine for the NHL simple as that just look at Winnipeg.

 

I wonder if Jamison is getting paid to play the leagues puppet, the deal is now done and the major said there will not be another deal like this, good for him I hate it when taxpayers have to pay for a sports franchise or their arenas. But I really hope if they move the Coyotes at least get an AHL team for all the remaining fans, so they have something hockeyrelated to be happy about.

 

I could be wrong but the Nordic Nation is more than 70,000 members.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/sp...iques-fans.html

 

 

 

In Québec city we have a QMJHL team named: Remparts (Patrick Roy is a head coach), yearly AVERAGE attendance of the Quebec Remparts is around 11,000 to 12,000 for the JUNIOR TEAM... and let me say that the tickets are $15,00... which is more expensive than the tickets for some of the NHL teams at this moment...

Edited by Dominator2005, 01 February 2013 - 04:00 PM.

[Euro_Twins]

I could be wrong but the Nordic Nation is more than 70,000 members.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/sp...iques-fans.html

 

 

 

In Québec city we have a QMJHL team named: Remparts (Patrick Roy is a head coach), yearly AVERAGE attendance of the Quebec Remparts is around 11,000 to 12,000 for the JUNIOR TEAM... and let me say that the tickets are $15,00... which is more expensive than the tickets for some of the NHL teams at this moment...

 

Windsor Spitfire tockets are like $25 each, and our team is in't even very good lol

[frankgrimes]

I could be wrong but the Nordic Nation is more than 70,000 members.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/sp...iques-fans.html

 

 

 

In Québec city we have a QMJHL team named: Remparts (Patrick Roy is a head coach), and yearly AVERAGE attendance of the Quebec Remparts is around 11,000 to 12,000 for the JUNIOR TEAM... and let me say that the tickets are $15,00... which is more expensive than the tickets for some of the NHL teams at this moment...

 

Oh that is impressive and this kind of security is exactly why I think QC will be the frontrunner here. Seattle just doesn't strike me as interested in an NHL team, its like we only take the second toy if we can get the first one.

 

Also for Hartford what makes me think they are going to succeed? Nothing because I can't see into the future but at least they'd want the NHL team for obvious reasons not just as a byproduct.

 

Other than that I can only see Indianapolis as a possible US expansion team.

[shoobiedoobin]

Oh yeah that 6 million/year mega super TV contract how could I forgot that *rofl* If they Coyotes are going to be relocated what other option is there right now? Seattle like I said is an afterthought they want the NBA 1 and NHL 2 that worked out well for Atlanta didn't it?

 

Honestly I think the BOG (if they have a brain) will push hard for QC because of all the gambles they'll want some staple incomes for the coming years and QC would provide that. The only US city I can see in the mix would be Hartford (long way to go still) but they'd want the NHL first instead of an afterthought.

Hartford? Yet you stubbornly refuse to believe anything about Seattle? Alright man lol...

[Hiei]

Hartford needs 1.  An owner.  2.  A new building.  the XL Center wasn't sufficient for the Whalers, what makes you think it would be sufficient for a new team?  Yes, it could be a holdover for a new arena, but there isn't a new arena coming in Hartford ATM

[McAwesome]

Oh yeah that 6 million/year mega super TV contract how could I forgot that *rofl* If they Coyotes are going to be relocated what other option is there right now? Seattle like I said is an afterthought they want the NBA 1 and NHL 2 that worked out well for Atlanta didn't it?

 

Honestly I think the BOG (if they have a brain) will push hard for QC because of all the gambles they'll want some staple incomes for the coming years and QC would provide that. The only US city I can see in the mix would be Hartford (long way to go still) but they'd want the NHL first instead of an afterthought.

 

While they have made no secret that their first priority is to brig back the NBA, I hardly think that alone makes the NHL in Seattle an afterthought. Right now they are the best candidate among US cities to have an NHL team relocate, as far as I know they are the only one that has actively pursued the idea.  Also, they would have an immediate built-in rivalry with the Canucks which would draw fans, plus with two major RNSs in the region (Comcast Sporstnet Northwest & Root Sports Northwest) the league could cash in on a potential bidding war over broadcasting rights.  It just makes sense as far as I am concerned, I say let the Seattle group buy out the cash-hemmorhaging Coyotes from the league, and at least try to make them profitable, and give Quebec first crack at an expansion team and let the league bend Quebecor over the counter for expansion fees, which they will gladly pay and instantly the expansion Nordiques would be profitable.

 

Seattle Honey Badgers 2014!!

[Dominator2005]

 
Windsor Spitfire tockets are like $25 each, and our team is in't even very good lol

Attendaces???

 
Oh that is impressive and this kind of security is exactly why I think QC will be the frontrunner here. Seattle just doesn't strike me as interested in an NHL team, its like we only take the second toy if we can get the first one.
 
Also for Hartford what makes me think they are going to succeed? Nothing because I can't see into the future but at least they'd want the NHL team for obvious reasons not just as a byproduct.
 
Other than that I can only see Indianapolis as a possible US expansion team.

Honestly I just can't imagine another expansion... relocation seems to be best thing that can happen for the NHL from the economical point of view.

[Captain Morgan]

When does this guy get back into the picture.....

 

[F.Michael]

When does this guy get back into the picture.....

 

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he "step down" sometime within the past 24 months due to poor quality control, and drop of value in RIM?

 

I think he's still a part of the company - lurking in the dark, but as for being an owner of an NHL franchise - I believe he burned his bridge...The BOG prefers the "quiet types" who don't make headlines.

[Euro_Twins]

Attendaces???



Honestly I just can't imagine another expansion... relocation seems to be best thing that can happen for the NHL from the economical point of view.

 

over the last 4 years attendance has been approximately 5863 on average, before that it was like half of that

 

http://www.hockeydb....h.php?tmi=10926

 

Edit: I also want to add it is a seating capacity of 6,500 so it does draw a pretty decent crowd for it's size

Edited by Euro_Twins, 02 February 2013 - 10:42 AM.

[haroldsnepsts]

Phoenix Coyote average attendance by year:

 

 

2013 - 12,406 (30th in league) 

2012 - 12,420 (30th) 

2011 - 12,188 (29th) 

2010 - 11,989 (30th)

2009 - 14,875 (28th)

2008 - 14,820 (29th)

2007 - 14,988 (24th)

2006 - 15,582 (22nd)

2004 - 15,467 (19th)

2003 - 13,229 (29th)

2002 - 13,165 (29th)

2001 - 14,224 (27th)

 

Arena capacity is listed as around 18,000.  

 

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

 

 

So attendance the last 4 seasons has been awful.  Especially last season when the Coyotes won their division, finished third in the conference, and made it to the Conference Finals in the playoffs. 

 

Phoenix is a tough market to establish a hockey franchise, Glendale was a terrible place to put the arena, and the financial situation is a never ending soap opera.  I feel kinda bad for the actual hockey fans in Phoenix (many of whom I'm guessing are transplants who root for their old team anyway), but it's time to end this experiment.

[evilmrt]

Phoenix Coyote average attendance by year:

 

 

2013 - 12,406 (30th in league) 

2012 - 12,420 (30th) 

2011 - 12,188 (29th) 

2010 - 11,989 (30th)

2009 - 14,875 (28th)

2008 - 14,820 (29th)

2007 - 14,988 (24th)

2006 - 15,582 (22nd)

2004 - 15,467 (19th)

2003 - 13,229 (29th)

2002 - 13,165 (29th)

2001 - 14,224 (27th)

 

Arena capacity is listed as around 18,000.  

 

http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance

 

 

So attendance the last 4 seasons has been awful.  Especially last season when the Coyotes won their division, finished third in the conference, and made it to the Conference Finals in the playoffs. 

 

Phoenix is a tough market to establish a hockey franchise, Glendale was a terrible place to put the arena, and the financial situation is a never ending soap opera.  I feel kinda bad for the actual hockey fans in Phoenix (many of whom I'm guessing are transplants who root for their old team anyway), but it's time to end this experiment.

 

They also pad the attendance stats. Every game I've been to, they announce 11,000 or so, and it looks like 5000. I guess they ticket holders who are no-shows. 

 

The arena is in the worst place possible. Phoenix is the model city for urban sprawl (I believe it is among the worse in any 1st world nation), and yet they didn't centrally locate the rink, which is an absolute certainty in city that is so ridiculously spread out. Ok, that was a death-knell as soon as they broke ground. 

 

I don't care if they win the Cup, that arena location ruins any scenario. Game over. 

[cusimano_brothers]

As long as Uncle Gary is in charge, the good people of Glendale don't have to worry about their team being moved.

Although, buying some tickets during the regular-season would be nice; showing that they care and all.

[F.Michael]

As long as Uncle Gary is in charge, the good people of Glendale don't have to worry about their team being moved.

Although, buying some tickets during the regular-season would be nice; showing that they care and all.

The Yotes front office should give partial-season tickets away to taxpayers of Glendale.

[shoobiedoobin]

When does this guy get back into the picture.....

 

Probably when Blackberry's stop sucking.

[haroldsnepsts]

Coyotes attendance last night against the Wild: 9,508 (55.5% full).

[Euro_Twins]

Coyotes attendance last night against the Wild: 9,508 (55.5% full).

 

Somehow getting worse. 

 

Someone call Bettman to tell him he is doing a great job as commisioner

[cusimano_brothers]

Glendale doesn't come alive until the playoffs begin.

[Euro_Twins]

Glendale doesn't come alive until the playoffs begin.

 

wait, they "come alive"?