Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Not dirty. Worth two minutes but if Gonchar didn't try to move out of the way (Ovechkin's right leg did not move when Gonchar did) then there would be no discussion. It is unfortunate for Gonchar and I hope he gets better but this is not suspendable at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Didn't think it was dirty, it was questionable, but nothing more than a 5 minute major IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Not dirty. Worth two minutes but if Gonchar didn't try to move out of the way (Ovechkin's right leg did not move when Gonchar did) then there would be no discussion. It is unfortunate for Gonchar and I hope he gets better but this is not suspendable at all. You sir, surprised me with this post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 You sir, surprised me with this post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 So I've learnt two things from this thread: 1. It is possible for the majority of LGW to agree on something about Ovechkin. 2. Numba Sixty-Six is approaching his first anniversary of watching NHL next week. Congrats #66!! Oh... you're dumb by the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Watched the replay a few times and it didn't look intentional to me. No late movement of the leg toward Gonchar, just a straight shot, looked like Ovechkin was going in for a check and Gonchar dodged. That said, it's still a dangerous play and any penalty Ovechkin got is well-deserved. Suspendable though? I don't think so. Didn't appear like intent to injure, not like the Brown hit or the Kunitz cross check. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjradio 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Few players in the history of the league have been harder to catch with a hit, clean or otherwise, than Lidstrom. This wouldn't happen to Lidstrom so it really makes little sense hypothesizing. Something like this DID happen to Lidstrom, anybody remember the half dozen games or so he missed after he was hit knee on knee against Colorado Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Personal attacks are allowed here? I've seen you dish out some zingers of your own, so please don't start acting coy and all "who me?". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Something like this DID happen to Lidstrom, anybody remember the half dozen games or so he missed after he was hit knee on knee against Colorado And we all know what happened to the guy that did it. Lesson learned, dont mess with Lidstrom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 5 minutes is perfect, but I would not be upset with a game suspension for that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 His highness contributed to a dirty play? Oh noes! it must have been some sort of conspiracy, somehow Crosby is responsible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lovin Jiri Fischer 147 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Hard for me to tell if it was intentional or not. I could see possibly a 2 minute penalty. But this was not worse than Brown's hit on Hudler, or half of the crap that has happened so far in the playoffs that went unsuspended. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjradio 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 At worst, I would thing there would be a fine, considering that's what Kunitz got for a DELIBERATE cross check to the head of Varlamov Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#19forPresident! 1 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) That's a potential career ender right there, plain and simple. You just don't do that, especially someone like him who is so good he doesn't have to worry about this type of low brow garbage. The guy needs to get a handle on his emotions, he celebrates huge when he's playing well and that's fine, but you don't take runs at guys when you're not. Grow up, you're a professional now act like one. It's just sad that he's not being held accountable like one, that's a game misconduct and suspension in a lot of other guy's shoes. Edited May 9, 2009 by #19forPresident! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLLSHIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTT. Wishful thinking. Ovechkin went for the big body hit, Gonchar was moving out of the way... so Ovechkin widened his stance to try and take a piece of him and not look like a total retarded moron. Ovie didn't widen his stance. Take off your homer glasses and watch the video. Ovie didn't move once he decided to go for the hit. The only player who moved was Gonchar and that move resulted in the knee on knee contact. And yes, you are trolling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsook 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 It seems like there is a lot of bias on this topic...it is easy to tell who are ovechkin haters/fans. It seems like if you aren't a fan you will look for information to support you point and vice versa. I'm not a fan of ovi but he's a great player. I've watched that video many times now and tried slowing it down. He was going in for the big hit, the Gonch dodged it and Ovi did not. He had, IMO, no time to move his leg at all. its like a fraction of a second and when you're lining up for a hit like that its not like "i wonder if i should pull my knee to the side" goes through there mind. The tripping call I would say is warranted because of ovi's carelessness with his hit which caused a trip. BUT those who say he deserved a major....really?? I think the trip is fine and no suspension is necessary...he went for a big hit not to injure him. It only looked worse because gonchar got out of the way and also was off balance. On a separate note...I just went to www.detroitredwings.com for the first time in a while with full volume on and Datsyuk absolutely scared the hell out of me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Captain_Yzerman19 1 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 On a separate note...I just went to www.detroitredwings.com for the first time in a while with full volume on and Datsyuk absolutely scared the hell out of me! I just went to see what you were talking about. And then it pops up. I go "Oh, s***!" followed by 2 minutes of non-stop laughter. "Hi, Red Wing fans!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revnic 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 definitly an accident. his knee didnt move and you can clearly see his uperbody going for the hit, meanwhile Gonchar moved out of the way but his leg didnt make it out on time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Something like this DID happen to Lidstrom, anybody remember the half dozen games or so he missed after he was hit knee on knee against Colorado 1. He wasn't hit knee on knee. He got hit along the boards and tweaked his knee when he fell. 2. I'm fairly certain the knee wasn't the issue. 3. That hit is still only one of three times that I can recall off the top of my head where Nick really got torqued. And that was the only one of the 3 where he missed a shift let alone any games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Four Report post Posted May 9, 2009 A lot of you make me laugh. You make it sound like Ovechkin did this intentional, yet if someone on our own team did this, say Datsyuk, you'd make up excuse after excuse about how it was plain unfortunate and he shouldn't be suspended. If Datsyuk did this, you'd all be saying how Gonchar had a wide stance and tried to turn left at the last send to avoid the hit, which he knew was coming and it ended up with Ovechkin hitting his knee, which was straight under him as he turned right! Ovechkin did not stick out his leg, Gonchar stuck out his. It was just an accident and both couldn't really do much at that point to avoid the leg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SergeiIsMyHero 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 His highness contributed to a dirty play? Oh noes! it must have been some sort of conspiracy, somehow Crosby is responsible. side note: anyone watching in pittsburgh as sick of bob errey as i am? if it were up to him, any play with contact would result in a game misconduct and a review by the league. he seriously spent half of the third pontificating "ah, there's another missed penalty" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedArmy 4 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 (edited) to say that was intentional might be a little bit of a stretch... Gonchar is an amazing player what a shame, hope he is ok... I am sure OVechkin feels like s***, I highly doubt he would go out there and intentionally hurt players especially a fellow Russian veteran like Gonchar... "We all have to talk to each other at certain times," said Bill Guerin. "Guys need to get calmed down for different things. Injuries are part of the game. I'd bet my house he didn't mean to do that. You just have to focus on the game." http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=422075 Edited May 9, 2009 by RedArmy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted May 9, 2009 It's like someone taking out Lidstrom like this, Gonchar is as important to penguins as Lidstrom is for red wings... I would be very angry if i was a penguins fan... hope he's allright... any reports on the injury yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Secret 304 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 quote name='Shoreline' date='May 8, 2009 - 11:29PM' post='1639053'] Should've been a 5, and Ovy is lucky he didn't get it. It's a dangerous play to make, intent or not. It should have been a 5 at least and a suspension for intent to injure in my opinion. If Ovechkin was playing with respect for other players in mind then a better effort would have been made to know what part of his body was being used for the hit. If a player is responsible for what happens with his stick then or has to be aware of a hit being delivered to an unsuspecting player then also the player should be present to the fact that skating into a hit with the stance and posture Ovechkin went in with could result in a questionable collision, he lead with his knee out there is no question there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jvxp 0 Report post Posted May 9, 2009 Not on purpose, unfortunate for Gonchar. I agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
