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#1 Jake Ryan

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:44 PM

I think the Wings could easily get 5 more years out of him if they pair him with Ericsson. He's not quite as fast as he once was, but he's still the best all around defenseman in the game. Do you think we'll lose him after next year? I'm more concerned about his contract than Hossa's.

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:49 PM

Lids isn't going anywhere, unless it's retirement.

Just like a bunch of others on the current roster, the rest of his career is predicated on whether or not he wants to retire on top (as in, 1st pairing), or play an obviously reduced role, like Chelios. If I had to guess, I say he retires on top.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:49 PM

lose lidstrom? he's the captain. the only place he'd go is retirement. if we win this year i think he will come back for a try at a 3 peat after that who knows...

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:49 PM

Man, that's a funny question considering he's once again a finalist for the Norris. He's not fast, but the chances he can create from the blue line are awsome. Look at all those assists. Thos plays need to be created from somewhere.
I'm not even touching his defensive skills.

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:50 PM

Anyone think he's the type who can adjust easily to playing third-pairing minutes?

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:51 PM

No. I think he is all or nothing. Rightfully so.

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:52 PM

i honestly dont know.

does anyone know of Lidstrom saying anything about how much longer he wants to go rather than me just guessing?

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 11:53 PM

QUOTE (Red Winged @ May 19, 2009 - 12:51AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No. I think he is all or nothing. Rightfully so.


Yeah me too. He gets a lot of joy and pride out of playing big minutes. It's really hard to let go of an elite defenseman status into a top-six guy who only plays 10 minutes. Nick said it himself, he's no Chelios.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 12:11 AM

QUOTE (titanium2 @ May 18, 2009 - 09:53PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah me too. He gets a lot of joy and pride out of playing big minutes. It's really hard to let go of an elite defenseman status into a top-six guy who only plays 10 minutes. Nick said it himself, he's no Chelios.


And let's thank the Lord that there aren't two Chris Chelios's. One is annoying enough!

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 12:16 AM

Nick will play until he can't play to the level of a top 2 D. He'll know and he'll either retire or take a big discount on another contract to let the kids move into the system without a big cap hit.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 12:31 AM

Probably just me, but I think his time is coming up pretty soon. At times he looks incredibly sluggish out there. Yes, he makes up with it with his stick work right now, but soon enough that won't make up for his lack of mobility. I just hope he doesn't pull a Chelios and goes out on top at the right time.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 12:34 AM

No joke. It will be odd not seeing number five back there, and instead in the rafters.


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Posted 19 May 2009 - 02:24 AM

I was upset when Feds left. I was devistated when Yzerman retired. I was hurt when Shanny took off. But I am scared for when Lids hangs them up. I know we have a lot of fantastic players ... but even a slowly declining Lids brings a steady, undeniable force to our team ... which I feel will never truly be replaced.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 05:23 AM

I don't think he will retire until they found a replacement that is almost as good as him... if he would just retire right away after next year that would not be very professional to the red wings...

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 06:30 AM

QUOTE (mindfly @ May 19, 2009 - 05:23AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think he will retire until they found a replacement that is almost as good as him... if he would just retire right away after next year that would not be very professional to the red wings...



I guess he won't be retiring anytime soon then! biggrin.gif Go Lids!
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 06:39 AM

QUOTE (arnoldbuck @ May 19, 2009 - 09:24AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was upset when Feds left. I was devistated when Yzerman retired. I was hurt when Shanny took off. But I am scared for when Lids hangs them up. I know we have a lot of fantastic players ... but even a slowly declining Lids brings a steady, undeniable force to our team ... which I feel will never truly be replaced.


Yup. Lidstrom's departure will have major impact on this team. When Steve Y left he was 3rd liner, Shanny and Feds were not that good anymore either. But Lidstrom is still the best defenseman on this team and no one is really close. I think he will retire as soon as he feels he cannot be no.1 defenseman anymore.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 06:41 AM

Indeed, the thought of Lids not on the team is scary. How do we replace someone like him? You can't. When he goes, Wings become more average. Lids is simply amazing, I consider him the "Gretzky" of Defensemen with superior character and honor.
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 06:43 AM

QUOTE (mindfly @ May 19, 2009 - 12:23PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think he will retire until they found a replacement that is almost as good as him...

The only "replacement" they could find if he retires after next season is an elite goaltender, Luongo maybe.

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Posted 19 May 2009 - 06:52 AM

QUOTE (dat's sick @ May 19, 2009 - 07:43AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only "replacement" they could find if he retires after next season is an elite goaltender, Luongo maybe.


I'm not sure I would call Luongo elite.
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Posted 19 May 2009 - 07:01 AM

QUOTE (dat's sick @ May 19, 2009 - 06:43AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only "replacement" they could find if he retires after next season is an elite goaltender, Luongo maybe.

I want no part of Luongo or any other $5M+ goaltender. We'd just be pissing money away. No goalie can win without a great team in front of him. And if you've got a great team you don't need a "great" (see also expensive) goalie. You just need one that won't lose a game for you. Luongo lost a couple these playoffs. Osgood hasn't.

The only replacement for Lidstrom is a defenseman that can control all 3 zones for a lot of minutes. The single best option in the league (taking into account age as it's pointless to replace Nick in 2-3 years by a guy that will be running on fumes then as well) is Jay Bouwmeester. Very close is Duncan Keith. I'm also very high on Marc-Edouard Vlasic but I want to see if he can develop some more as he's still ridiculously young.

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