GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Makes a lot more sense than this conspiracy crap. You really think a nine-day wait in between games is a good idea for the league? Why would the NHL want to compete with the NBA Finals - and a possible Kobe-LeBron matchup - for attention? I doubt they'd be playing on the same night. If the NHL really wants to get the Finals over with in order to not compete with the NBA, they should just play the entire series in 7 days. This league is stupid, and can't pick the medium between extremes. If they didn't want to wait 9 days, they could have at least waited just around 4 or 5 days like I suggested in my above post. The back to back games is something neither you nor the NHL can justify as being fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 NHL giving the Pens an advantage... why? Because they will need it! Lets clown these chumps again. GO WINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 This is unbelievable. For a 3rd straight year, a local telethon is blacking out a Stanley Cup Finals game down here, maybe two this year. I'm all for raising money for a good cause, but not during a championship sporting event, regardless of if it is my favorite team or not. I have to drive to southern Mississippi or Baton Rouge to watch game 1 and possibly 2 now. I'm so f**king pissed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Like hell it does, all of you sound like you should be calling in to Coast to Coast AM with George Noory. Bettman doesn't want the SCF going up against the NBA Finals in the ratings. It has nothing to do with who is playing, I am 100% convinced if it was the Wings and Carolina or the Wings and Boston or the Wings and Washington, the Finals would be starting on Saturday. The Finals for the 2 leagues won't likely be played on the same night. They usually aren't. And Bettman making decisions is exactly why people are upset and claiming a conspiracy. This man can't make proper decisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 SCF schedule = Boooooools*** esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 This is unbelievable. For a 3rd straight year, a local telethon is blacking out a Stanley Cup Finals game down here, maybe two this year. I'm all for raising money for a good cause, but not during a championship sporting event, regardless of if it is my favorite team or not. I have to drive to southern Mississippi or Baton Rouge to watch game 1 and possibly 2 now. I'm so f**king pissed. You should streak during that local telethon in order to voice your displeasure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) SCF schedule = Boooooools*** esteef What are you talking about man? This is great for the league. They'll get the Finals over with quickly, not compete with the NBA, and the Wings will likely lose due to fatigue and injuries. How can you complain about those results? Edited May 28, 2009 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Star_Hunter 0 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 They moved it up because NBC thinks the finals will have s***ty rattings and wanted to put them on the weekend so they dont hurt the ratings during the week its as simple as that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 This is unbelievable. For a 3rd straight year, a local telethon is blacking out a Stanley Cup Finals game down here, maybe two this year. I'm all for raising money for a good cause, but not during a championship sporting event, regardless of if it is my favorite team or not. I have to drive to southern Mississippi or Baton Rouge to watch game 1 and possibly 2 now. I'm so f**king pissed. Go to a sports bar and you're all good. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 And Bettman making decisions is exactly why people are upset and claiming a conspiracy. This man can't make proper decisions. No s*** the man can't make proper decisions, we've known that for years. The point is, THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY. The League is not in cahoots to f*** this team over and give Jesus Christ Crosby and the Holy Malkin Spirit a Stanley Cup parade. Okay? They're not. And the more people beat this drum, the more asinine they sound. Gary Bettman is not smart enough to conspire to wipe his own ass, much less put a fix in for the Finals. The idea of moving the Finals up for television has been in the works for about a month and a half, before the idea of a Cup rematch was even a twinkle in someone's eye. This is purely being done for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and ratings. That's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Go look at the regular season schedule and the results of back to b rently lazy and stupid. Conspiracies require intelligence and hard work/planning. That's why we rarely see successful conspiracies in real life. Fri, Oct 24 Atlanta W 5-3 5-1-1 C. Osgood M. Hossa, G: 2, A: 1 46-33 1-4 6-7 Sat, Oct 25 @ Chicago W 6-5 SO 6-1-1 T. Conklin N. Kronwall, G: 1, A: 2 44-41 2-3 6-8 Wed, Oct 29 @ Anaheim L 4-5 OT 7-1-2 C. Osgood H. Zetterberg, G: 2, A: 0 38-34 2-7 5-8 Thu, Oct 30 @ San Jose L 2-4 7-2-2 T. Conklin M. Hossa, G: 1, A: 0 27-33 0-2 1-2 Thu, Nov 13 @ Tampa Bay W 4-3 10-2-3 C. Osgood H. Zetterberg, G: 1, A: 1 39-18 2-5 3-4 Fri, Nov 14 @ Florida W 3-2 11-2-3 T. Conklin M. Hossa, G: 2, A: 0 32-27 1-4 3-3 Fri, Nov 28 Columbus W 5-3 15-3-4 C. Osgood M. Hossa, G: 2, A: 0 35-16 2-5 6-6 Sat, Nov 29 @ Boston L 1-4 15-4-4 T. Conklin H. Zetterberg, G: 0, A: 1 30-19 1-3 1-1 Fri, Dec 12 @ Dallas L 1-3 19-5-4 T. Conklin J. Hudler, G: 0, A: 1 38-24 0-3 3-3 Sat, Dec 13 @ Phoenix W 5-4 SO 20-5-4 C. Osgood J. Franzen, G: 2, A: 0 38-28 2-3 3-5 Fri, Dec 26 @ Nashville L 2-3 23-7-4 T. Conklin M. Samuelsson, G: 1, A: 0 40-31 0-3 2-3 Sat, Dec 27 @ Colorado L 3-4 SO 23-7-5 T. Conklin T. Holmstrom, G: 1, A: 2 44-32 2-5 3-6 Sat, Feb 7 Edmonton W 8-3 34-11-7 T. Conklin M. Hossa, G: 1, A: 1 35-26 2-5 3-3 Sun, Feb 8 @ Pittsburgh W 3-0 35-11-7 T. Conklin T. Conklin, SV%: 1.00 29-25 1-3 4-4 Fri, Feb 20 Anaheim W 5-2 39-12-8 T. Conklin H. Zetterberg, G: 1, A: 2 34-26 2-5 3-4 Sat, Feb 21 @ Minnesota L 2-5 39-13-8 J. Howard T. Kopecky, G: 1, A: 0 37-29 0-5 2-3 Fri, Feb 27 LA Kings W 2-1 41-13-8 C. Osgood C. Osgood, SV%: 0.97 41-31 0-2 1-2 Sat, Feb 28 @ Nashville L 0-8 41-14-8 T. Conklin J. Franzen, G: 0, A: 0 30-23 0-2 2-3 Tue, Mar 3 @ St. Louis W 5-0 42-14-8 C. Osgood C. Osgood, SV%: 1.00 36-22 2-7 3-3 Wed, Mar 4 @ Colorado W 3-2 43-14-8 T. Conklin T. Conklin, SV%: 0.93 30-27 0-2 1-1 Sat, Mar 14 @ St. Louis W 5-2 45-15-9 C. Osgood C. Osgood, SV%: 0.94 27-32 0-4 4-4 Sun, Mar 15 @ Columbus W 4-0 46-15-9 C. Osgood C. Osgood, SV%: 1.00 30-23 1-5 4-4 Mon, Mar 23 @ Calgary L 3-5 48-16-9 T. Conklin J. Franzen, G: 1, A: 1 33-27 0-1 3-4 Tue, Mar 24 @ Edmonton W 3-2 49-16-9 T. Conklin J. Franzen, G: 0, A: 2 44-26 0-4 3-4 Sat, Apr 11 Chicago L 2-4 51-20-10 T. Conklin J. Hudler, G: 0, A: 1 23-26 1-2 4-4 Sun, Apr 12 @ Chicago L 0-3 51-21-10 C. Osgood J. Hudler, G: 0, A: 0 37-23 0-5 2-3 Final tally: 15-11 in back to back games. Won both games 4 times Lost both games 3 times I fail to see the advantage or the disadvantage here. Maybe you can point it out to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted May 28, 2009 They moved it up because NBC thinks the finals will have s***ty rattings and wanted to put them on the weekend so they dont hurt the ratings during the week its as simple as that. Bettman just luvs the Penguins so he wanted them to win so he can kiss Crosby with the cup and maybe grab a handful of ass. It's a conspiracy against the Wings! Bettman knew all along the Wings would make it to the Cup Finals that's why he decided in April to make there be a back to back. He's the next Nostradamus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 I've got $50 that says Lidstrom and Datsyuk would rather heal up than fight through two hockey games in 24 hours while injured. Ask Gonchar the same question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 They moved it up because NBC thinks the finals will have s***ty rattings and wanted to put them on the weekend so they dont hurt the ratings during the week its as simple as that. The league got decent ratings last year in the Finals. I don't see why it'd be bad this season all of a sudden. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Bettman just luvs the Penguins so he wanted them to win so he can kiss Crosby with the cup and maybe grab a handful of ass. Maybe he wants a Malkin/Crosby double-team. Some people are into that, you know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 I doubt they'd be playing on the same night. If the NHL really wants to get the Finals over with in order to not compete with the NBA, they should just play the entire series in 7 days. This league is stupid, and can't pick the medium between extremes. If they didn't want to wait 9 days, they could have at least waited just around 4 or 5 days like I suggested in my above post. The back to back games is something neither you nor the NHL can justify as being fair. Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 The league got decent ratings last year in the Finals. I don't see why it'd be bad this season all of a sudden. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Bettman wants money. Even if the NBA Finals and SCF aren't going to be happening on the same day, if they're going on at the same time, you're competing for advertising money. If Bettman moves the Finals up, he has nothing sports-wise, stopping him from. The league needs money. Bettman wants money. He's doing this purely for dollars, and while it shows no regard for the players' health, it's what we've come to expect from him anyway. Everyone quit whining about it and move on. The Wings have to, the Pens have to.....so should we. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 I love the Wings fans that are already making excuses about how they are getting screwed by the league. Its the conspiracy theorists all over again. If it makes you sleep better at night, go ahead and do it. The Wings are going to win this series in 6 games. The team that wants this series the most is the one that is going to win. I trust in the Wings drive and determination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Fri, Oct 24 Atlanta W 5-3 5-1-1 C. Osgood M. Hossa, G: 2, A: 1 46-33 1-4 6-7 Sat, Oct 25 @ Chicago W 6-5 SO 6-1-1 T. Conklin N. Kronwall, G: 1, A: 2 44-41 2-3 6-8 Wed, Oct 29 @ Anaheim L 4-5 OT 7-1-2 C. Osgood H. Zetterberg, G: 2, A: 0 38-34 2-7 5-8 Thu, Oct 30 @ San Jose L 2-4 7-2-2 T. Conklin M. Hossa, G: 1, A: 0 27-33 0-2 1-2 Thu, Nov 13 @ Tampa Bay W 4-3 10-2-3 C. Osgood H. Zetterberg, G: 1, A: 1 39-18 2-5 3-4 Fri, Nov 14 @ Florida W 3-2 11-2-3 T. Conklin M. Hossa, G: 2, A: 0 32-27 1-4 3-3 Fri, Nov 28 Columbus W 5-3 15-3-4 C. Osgood M. Hossa, G: 2, A: 0 35-16 2-5 6-6 Sat, Nov 29 @ Boston L 1-4 15-4-4 T. Conklin H. Zetterberg, G: 0, A: 1 30-19 1-3 1-1 Fri, Dec 12 @ Dallas L 1-3 19-5-4 T. Conklin J. Hudler, G: 0, A: 1 38-24 0-3 3-3 Sat, Dec 13 @ Phoenix W 5-4 SO 20-5-4 C. Osgood J. Franzen, G: 2, A: 0 38-28 2-3 3-5 Fri, Dec 26 @ Nashville L 2-3 23-7-4 T. Conklin M. Samuelsson, G: 1, A: 0 40-31 0-3 2-3 Sat, Dec 27 @ Colorado L 3-4 SO 23-7-5 T. Conklin T. Holmstrom, G: 1, A: 2 44-32 2-5 3-6 Sat, Feb 7 Edmonton W 8-3 34-11-7 T. Conklin M. Hossa, G: 1, A: 1 35-26 2-5 3-3 Sun, Feb 8 @ Pittsburgh W 3-0 35-11-7 T. Conklin T. Conklin, SV%: 1.00 29-25 1-3 4-4 Fri, Feb 20 Anaheim W 5-2 39-12-8 T. Conklin H. Zetterberg, G: 1, A: 2 34-26 2-5 3-4 Sat, Feb 21 @ Minnesota L 2-5 39-13-8 J. Howard T. Kopecky, G: 1, A: 0 37-29 0-5 2-3 Fri, Feb 27 LA Kings W 2-1 41-13-8 C. Osgood C. Osgood, SV%: 0.97 41-31 0-2 1-2 Sat, Feb 28 @ Nashville L 0-8 41-14-8 T. Conklin J. Franzen, G: 0, A: 0 30-23 0-2 2-3 Tue, Mar 3 @ St. Louis W 5-0 42-14-8 C. Osgood C. Osgood, SV%: 1.00 36-22 2-7 3-3 Wed, Mar 4 @ Colorado W 3-2 43-14-8 T. Conklin T. Conklin, SV%: 0.93 30-27 0-2 1-1 Sat, Mar 14 @ St. Louis W 5-2 45-15-9 C. Osgood C. Osgood, SV%: 0.94 27-32 0-4 4-4 Sun, Mar 15 @ Columbus W 4-0 46-15-9 C. Osgood C. Osgood, SV%: 1.00 30-23 1-5 4-4 Mon, Mar 23 @ Calgary L 3-5 48-16-9 T. Conklin J. Franzen, G: 1, A: 1 33-27 0-1 3-4 Tue, Mar 24 @ Edmonton W 3-2 49-16-9 T. Conklin J. Franzen, G: 0, A: 2 44-26 0-4 3-4 Sat, Apr 11 Chicago L 2-4 51-20-10 T. Conklin J. Hudler, G: 0, A: 1 23-26 1-2 4-4 Sun, Apr 12 @ Chicago L 0-3 51-21-10 C. Osgood J. Hudler, G: 0, A: 0 37-23 0-5 2-3 Final tally: 15-11 in back to back games. Won both games 4 times Lost both games 3 times I fail to see the advantage or the disadvantage here. Maybe you can point it out to me. I was referring to the entire league's results so we have a better understanding from a statistical point of view. It's worth noting how many times it went that both games were either wins or losses. I'm not sure how back to back games aren't disadvantages... ask Babcock. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted May 28, 2009 (edited) 2008 NBA Finals Game 1: June 5th 2008 NHL Stanley Cup Finals Game 1: May 24th 2009 Stanley Cup Finals -- teams already decided 2009 NBA Finals -- no series yet decided, one of which will go 2 more games at very least Looks like the NHL didn't compete with the NBA last year either. f***. That logic thing again. Edited May 28, 2009 by Shoreline Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 I love the Wings fans that are already making excuses about how they are getting screwed by the league. Its the conspiracy theorists all over again. If it makes you sleep better at night, go ahead and do it. The Wings are going to win this series in 6 games. The team that wants this series the most is the one that is going to win. I trust in the Wings drive and determination. No, you don't understand. Bettman hates the Wings and is in a *** love affair with Crosby and Malkin and therefore must bend to their whims. It's all about the Penguins, don't you see? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robat 13 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 The only reason I'm pissed is because I have to miss game 4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 Actually, the more folks have to defend the way the NHL operates, and attack the conspiracy theorists, the more idiotic they look. Every single day theres new fodder for conspiracy theorists. That far outpaces anything that indicates the NHL isn't biased towards the Pens, or isn't biased towards anyone in particular. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
greenrebellion 415 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 You guys are too much. I'll agree the schedule is s***ty, but its better than waiting nine games between games. No suspense there for casual fans as they would've forgotten all about hockey by then. But to think this has anything to do with a master plan to give the Pens an advantage is absolute nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightfall 871 Report post Posted May 28, 2009 I was referring to the entire league's results so we have a better understanding from a statistical point of view. It's worth noting how many times it went that both games were either wins or losses. I'm not sure how back to back games aren't disadvantages... ask Babcock. Its obvious that we both have a different opinion here. I just don't think its that big of a disadvantage. The only argument I can hear about how it is a disadvantage is....well.....the league is screwing us. There just is no valid argument for it or against it. Both teams are banged up. Both teams have little to no rest coming into the game on Saturday. It isn't like the Pens have been sitting on their ass for a week. The Pens have to travel to our rink to play on reduced rest. It just seems to me that the people complaining about this are setting the Wings up for losing the cup and using the scheduling as a convenient excuse. Make no mistake Wings fans.....if the Wings lose in the Cup finals it will not be the scheduling or the refs fault. The Wings will be to blame. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
