wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Here is what I'd like to see. If everyones healthy can play (hopefully) Franzen-Datsyuk-Zetterberg Cleary-Filpulla-Hossa Hudler-Helm-Samuelsson Maltby-Abdelkader-Holmstrom Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Lebda-Ericcson Osgood Line 1- I load up the first line and put Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Frazen together for a couple reasons. 1. Last year Datsyuk and Zetterberg successfully outplayed Crosby and Malkin which was a huge reason why we were able to win. Both Datsyuk and Zetterberg havent been as good in these playoffs as last year, so put Franzen on their wing to try and add a spark. 2. D and Z are two of the best defensive forwards in the game. Both are Selke finalists. Put them together, along with Franzen who is also a very good defensive forward, and match them up against either Crosby or Malkin, preferably Malkin, and shut him down. We shut Malkin down last year and it was another reason why were able to win. Malkin has not been matched up against a player of Datsyuk or Zetterbergs caliber, let alone both of them. Couple that with one of our two shut down defensive pairs, and I think Malkin or Crosby, Babs choice, can be neutralized. Line 2- Cleary has earned the right to be on a top two line and basically, Holmstrom has earned the right to not be on a top two line in my opinion. Put him with Val and Hossa who have showed some great chemistry together in the last series. Cleary, Val, and Hossa are all very good defensively and are more than capable of going against either the Malkin or Crosby line. In my opinion, Hossa will be a man possessed this series. Not only is he eager to win a cup, but now he has to prove everyone right on his offseason decision. I look for him to have a huge series. Line 3- We've seen this line in the Chicago series. Helm has been big. Samuelsson scores clutch goals, and so does Hudler. Line 4- It is what it is I guess Defense One of the top two defensive units in the league anyway you slice it. My only concern is injuries coupled with the crap game 1 and 2 schedule. We need Lidstrom and Ericcson healthy. We cant be having our guys logging the kind of minutes they do, without them, on back to back nights. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMAC 25 18 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 damn u already took what i was gonna put for the lineup haha. o well either way it should be a good series and hopefully detroit wins it at home this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 I would switch mule and the newf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) You nailed it. That is exactly what I want to see. edit: well, actually I would rather have Leino on that 4th line than Maltby. Edited May 29, 2009 by dat's sick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) Wouldnt you want to split Z and D so one line is h2h with Crosby's line and the 2nd line h2h with the Malkin line? Fil-Dat-Hossa .. thats a cool name lol fil dat hossa up! Franzen-Z-newfl. Hud-Helmet-Sammy Maltby-Abdel-Homer Edited May 29, 2009 by PROBIE4PREZ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 We just have to be able to have Datsyuk head to head with Malkin and Zetterberg head to head with Crosby. Franzen - Datsyuk - Cleary Filppula - Zetterberg - Hossa Hudler - Helm - Samuelson Maltby - Abdelkader - Holmstrom If Draper gets healthy I switch him and Abdelkader of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl Atkins 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Here is what I'd like to see. If everyones healthy can play (hopefully) Franzen-Datsyuk-Zetterberg Cleary-Filpulla-Hossa Hudler-Helm-Samuelsson Maltby-Abdelkader-Holmstrom Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Lebda-Ericcson Osgood re: the defensive pairings. With Lidstrom and Ericcson healthy I would put them back together and have Rafi and Lebda together. This would provide 3 deep defensive pairings @ ~ 20 minutes each and help with matchups v. Crosby and Malkin lines especially when going into the Igloo. I don't like that 4th line. It's neither good defensively nor good offensively. Sadly, I don't know how to change it and keep Holmstrom for PPs. If Draper's available I would probably do this: Franzen-Datsyuk-Zetterberg Holmstrom-Filpulla-Hossa Hudler-Helm-Samuelsson Draper-Abdelkader-Cleary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chunkylover 26 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 I was discussing match ups with a Penguins fan who pointed out how Kunitz targeted Timonen (everyone remember that hit) in the ECQF and that he'd probably do the same to Lidstrom. Given that Nick is already hurt and there really is no overly physical presence on our top line, what do you think about putting Jr. and Stu out against Crosby/Guerin/Kunitz and matching Malkin against Nick and Raffi. Granted Malkin and Fedotenko are big and can throw their weight around and Talbot is on that line, but I don't see them playing the body as effectively. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shaman 713 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 re: the defensive pairings. With Lidstrom and Ericcson healthy I would put them back together and have Rafi and Lebda together. This would provide 3 deep defensive pairings @ ~ 20 minutes each and help with matchups v. Crosby and Malkin lines especially when going into the Igloo. I don't like that 4th line. It's neither good defensively nor good offensively. Sadly, I don't know how to change it and keep Holmstrom for PPs. If Draper's available I would probably do this: Franzen-Datsyuk-Zetterberg Holmstrom-Filpulla-Hossa Hudler-Helm-Samuelsson Draper-Abdelkader-Cleary With homer going down hill quick, and cleary being Nothing but clutch, i wouldnt have him on the 4th line, plus, draper+faceoffs=money, so i dont know why youd have abs as your center on that line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea 31 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 I definitely want Zetterberg and Datsyuk split up (for once). I think Z needs to be on Crosby and Dats on Malkin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kegacide 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 id probably split up Z and Dats like everyones saying, to have them up against malkin and sissy... id also put Homer on the 3rd line with Helm and Hudler, i think he pairs up well with them... make samuelson the odd man out down to the 4th line... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carl Atkins 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 so i dont know why youd have abs as your center on that line. Mainly because of Draper's groin problems. The center has to come back defensively more in the Wings' system so having Abs with that responsibility has that line with a great face-off man and can run around and hit people. Plus I think (hope?) Homer's due. Have him clear some space for Fil & Hossa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jake Ryan 1 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 5 on 5 Helm-Datsyuk-Hossa Cleary-Zetterberg-Franzen Hudler-Filppula-Abdelkader Franzen/Cleary/Zetterberg (rotating*)-Draper-Samuelsson Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Lebda *If we get up by 2 or more goals, let Holmstrom fill this spot and roll the lines. Power Play Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Lidstrom-Rafalski Hossa-Filppula-Hudler Kronwall-Ericsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z Winged Dangler 2,082 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 I definitely want Zetterberg and Datsyuk split up (for once). I think Z needs to be on Crosby and Dats on Malkin. agreed. cleary - zetterberg - franzen hossa - dats - fillpula sammy - helm - huds leino - abdelkader - homer lids - raffi kronner - stewie lebda - ericsson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonan78 1 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) We just have to be able to have Datsyuk head to head with Malkin and Zetterberg head to head with Crosby. Franzen - Datsyuk - Cleary Filppula - Zetterberg - Hossa Hudler - Helm - Samuelson Maltby - Abdelkader - Holmstrom If Draper gets healthy I switch him and Abdelkader of course. Two things, 1) Even with getting Datsyuk back, I wouldn't want to split up the chemistry that Hossa and Filppula have had, 2) Zetterberg and Hossa hasn't worked at all in the regular season, and I don't think it has even been revisited in the playoffs. agreed. cleary - zetterberg - franzen hossa - dats - fillpula sammy - helm - huds leino - abdelkader - homer lids - raffi kronner - stewie lebda - ericsson This is more like it. Maybe Datsyuk can feed off the spark of his wingers, and if you wanted to make life a little easier on Datsyuk you could put him on the wing and let Filppula center the line sometimes, the wingers have a little less running around to do defensively. Cleary has definitely earned his way into the top 6, and that line has been lethal, size, speed, net presence, skill and defensive ability. If they keep Crosby and Malkin separate we can match up with both, if they keep them together we throw the Cleary-Zetterberg-Franzen line out against them with Lidstrom-Rafalski on the blue line. Edited May 29, 2009 by bonan78 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xBrave_Heartx 0 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 Jake Ryan No Franzen on the PP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted May 29, 2009 what if the pad is able to come back(long shot of course) do you put him in or do you keep lebda in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
