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SCF GAME 3 GDT: Red Wings 2 at Penguins 4

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Have to play a more methodical, efficient game. The frantic up-down action is exciting to watch but it limits the scoring chances unless you get a breakaway. They also got a little too cute in the offensive zone, choosing to pass in situations where the puck should have been shot. No panic, but I want to see a tight checking, limited TO, puck possession game. Too many scoring chances for the bad guys on errant passes. PK sucks, very slow in getting the puck out of their own zone. The more time and space you allow in your own zone, the greater the chance bad things will happen. BTW, when is Dats coming back?

Pens played them tough, I figured this would be a 6 game series. Ozzie let in 2 goals I'm sure he'd like back.

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Penalty killing is the major problem right now, which it has been all season, so we need to make sure not to take penalties. If we focus on that, we'll win.

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Hossa's one of my favorite players. Saying I'm an idiot because I critize his play is stupid, he isnt here for hard work, he isnt a mucker, he's here to help us win, score goals, do positive things. He's trying to do too much, and he isnt THAT good. The Pens get a man on him, and bring an extra for support for behind and Hoss just turns over the puck. I'm not saying he sucks and should be benched, but he needs to help us win and not sit along for the ride having strong efforts and good defensive plays. Z's playing great defensive hockey and also having a positive effect at the offensive side of the rink. He needs to be better, and hopefully he will be.

Never said he couldn't play better.....but "useless" and "along for the ride" are a bit extreme.

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We should not be fighting amongst ourselves. Bad karma. We can all agree now

That...

1) REFS suck

2)bettman will always be a *******.

3) Pens won a game big freaking deal.

4) Wings WIN Thursday

and finally

5) Game 5 = :champs:

Yeah we should.

I blame this entire loss on my fellow LGW members. :P

You guys cost the Wings the Cup.

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So, then as I understand it, your solution is.......tick..tick...tick....tick?????............oh yea, to *****, right?

LOL

What would you do?

I guarantee you Babcock has already had a talk with Mr. Hossa this post-season and there may be another one tomorrow.

YOu don't pay a guy $7M a year to be a checking forward. That's essentially what he's done. He hasn't delivered. This was supposedly what he came to the Wings for.

BTW I'm NOT scapegoating him so don't go there son.

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Also, the Wings lost game 3 on the road to Chicago and had no problems in game 4. The lost game 3 to Anaheim and game 4 was no problem. The Wings are the best team at making adjustments during a series.

It was only a matter of time before Ericsson and Helm had really s***ty games.

Two very good points. Won't make me feel better about this loss tonight but its will probably help my outlook for game 4.

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This was always likely to be the game that the pens would win, and not having pav is really starting to bite. Didn't agree with babs keeping drapes out tonight, as face-offs in road games with the match up disadvantage can make a big difference, and i think he still contributes more than maltby. That said, equally painful was being so dominant in the 2nd perioid and not scoring and sammy playing ding a ling on the breakaway (he's had a poor series so far, but he's not alone, as the huds, holmstrom and to a lesser degree hossa, have contribute very little).

The problem with dats being out is that hank is pretty much carrying the majority of offensive and defensive burden. Missing Lilja too, but no hope on that one.

Gets kinda sickening that despite all that, its still the inconsistant officaiting that is making the difference - its starting to get like a scrum in rugby, where as an observer, you have no idea what will and won't get called, and the worst offenders always get away with it. I could take it if it was sneaky, or a dominating team getting penalties through pressure, but the wings, as a 'clean' team, are getting continually punished by the desire of the officials to try to even up calls and keep games close. You always hear opposing coaches say that they shoudl calls against the wings to even up the penalty count, and no one argues with this. Its the one thing about the NHL which i find both frustrating and mystifying. Not to mention the fact it totally undermines the rulebook.

I suppose the luck we had in game 1 and 2 had to cancel out tonight, but it can't it happen without incompetent officiating. Think it'll be wings in 6 like last year, and definitely if dats can come back for game 4 or 5. Its interesting though, we are learning a lot about the team, and which players thrive in which situtations.

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Okay so the game was very close. They won by 2 but the empty netter wouldn't have happened if we weren't already losing. We were missing our best two-way player and still came close. The Pens also got to keep Malkin after he should have been suspended and got away with too many men for 21 seconds. I'm mad about this non-call because it's not subjective. A hooking call or interference is kind of up to interpretation, but if you can count to 6 then you should know that is a penalty. It's black and white. And I don't believe that "the game was too fast and the refs are only human" because how can FOUR officials not be able to say "1...2...3...4...5...hey wait a minute..." for 21 seconds? There is no way they "missed" that. But I believe in karma and that this could be a blessing in disguise. It will fire them up for sure. And I'm not impressed with Leino.

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Oh well, no surprise, I figured Pittsburgh would win tonight. As much as I'd like to have seen us sweep, we aren't playing Columbus here.

Just because the Wings win game 3 doesn't mean they would sweep. I wanted this game to go up 3-0 and really put htem in a hole, I will take the split any way on the road, but it would be nice to go up 3-0, but as long as we come home 3-1 then thats ok too!

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That's the thing....we need to win WITHOUT Datsyuk. He is NOT the entire TEAM. Although it is nice to have him on ice. :rolleyes:

We have been winning without Datsyuk. I agree that Datsyuk would be awesome to have back in the lineup. Especially his ability to force turnovers...that would come in handy. Does he have a sprained ankle? I haven't really heard what is actually wrong with him.

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I'm concerned about the Wings goal scoring. Tons of chances this game, but a lot of futilitiy in the goal scoring from pretty much every player.

Hossa needs to show up on the ******* scoresheet for once. Thank god the next game is Game 4.

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Don't know what the **** happened during the first intermission, but our team looked like **** the last two periods. We just turned something off; lazy play in the neutral zone, sloppy puck-handling, bad passing, casual defensive play. Bottom line, we looked like we didn't care.

Good job by Pittsburgh. Pens had everything riding on that last period and they played like it. Good intensity in that last period, and they eventually made us pay for our lackluster play. They definitely earned this one.

Datsyuk por favor?

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The Wings have scored 6 goals in every single Game #4 in these playoffs. Something to look forward to on Thursday. Also, both the Wings and the Pens haven't lost a Game #4 this playoffs.

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Malkin (who would have been suspended for instigating if he wore a Detroit sweater), with 3 assists in this game.

It's good to be one of Bettman's babies, that's for sure. :thumbup:

sshhhhhh pointing out the hypocripsy of the officiating and the rulings from the league office gets people's panties in a twist here....

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Don't know what the **** happened during the first intermission, but our team looked like **** the last two periods. We just turned something off; lazy play in the neutral zone, sloppy puck-handling, bad passing, casual defensive play. Bottom line, we looked like we didn't care.

Good job by Pittsburgh. Pens had everything riding on that last period and they played like it. Good intensity in that last period, and they eventually made us pay for our lackluster play. They definitely earned this one.

Datsyuk por favor?

What on earth?

2nd >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1st >>>> 3rd.

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LOL

What would you do?

I guarantee you Babcock has already had a talk with Mr. Hossa this post-season and there may be another one tomorrow.

YOu don't pay a guy $7M a year to be a checking forward. That's essentially what he's done. He hasn't delivered. This was supposedly what he came to the Wings for.

BTW I'm NOT scapegoating him so don't go there son.

scapegoat ( ) n. One that is made to bear the blame of others......ehhh yea, right. Unless you feel the need to single out a few other unworthy players, what would you call it?

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Anyone else notice that a player whom, by the nhl rule book, should have been suspended for this game ends up netting three assists?

...and before anyone jumps all over me, i agree with him not being suspended for this game... just thaugh i'd mention it is all.

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Never once envisioned a sweep so I guess this is expected. I was also honestly expected the refs to be worse in the Crosby's favor. Tonight wasn't so bad really, some pitiful non-calls but its not like they just made crap up to call on the Wings as everything they did was technically a penalty. Ozzie has his second weakest game of the playoffs, our PK failed to show up yet again, and Wings just fell flat in the 3rd after a spectacular 2nd.

Just sucks after watching our team get so close to 3-0, we lose it in aggravating fashion.

I didn't want to be the first to say that Ozzie did not play that well.

Edited by clutchngrab

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[quote name='LeftWinger' date='June 2, 2009 - 1I would say folks have a ligit gripe

(the word is spelled "LEGIT")

at the reffing. Let alone the league for recinding Malkins instigator which should have sidelined him for this game, GUARNTEE on Wing does that and it doesn't get recinded(you mean RESCINDED and GUARANTEE).

(...and you're full of Bull - if it was a big name on Detroit they would have rescinded it for sure. Stop being so paranoid - you sound like Crosby on a real bad day).

This has "Bettman" written all over it, from the Malkin Instigator to the weak call on Ericsson, to the allowance of 6 players on the ice.

(Again, you sound like a baby - you'd be thrown out of Joe Louis arena in a second for acting like it.)

There you go Pit, you got your game from Fairy Bettman, enjoy it. This still ends in 5! (Bettman cannot control the outcome two games in a row can he?)

This is ridiculous. Please have a beer or two and relax. Bettman has nothing to do with this loss. The Pens got lucky to make it through the second period, the Wings tanked in the third and it cost them. Simple.

detroit neighbour fan

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In the past 2 years (8 series now), I have to say, I think their coach, Bylsma, is one of the most respectable coaches. Thought I'd give a little credit.

On the post game show on Fox 2, they just said it was a textbook call and they had to call that.

While I agree that it was textbook and probably the right call to make, the thing that we are mostly angry about is that they've been letting it go for 2.9 games and then suddenly call it in the 3rd period of a tightly fought game. I don't know. To me it was probably not the time to make the call, even though yes, it is a textbook call. Other thing is we can find 100 other textbook calls that wern't made in the game.

I think that's what most of us are mad about.

I'm more angry with the HORRID penalty kill though.

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