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No sense of urgency, too flat

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Gotta start my topic first time as the LGW member and some people may have a hard time to understand my English but hopefully people can understand the idea of my post

As in game 6 in both series against the Ducks and the Pens, the Wings look exactly same. They played like a garbage, they did not feel of urgency, they looked flat, no traffic, no forecheck, PP failed.

I do not see any problem in our line combo. Changing line combo can be either way: going totally in a negative way, or going totally in a positive way. By that, I think our line combo is fine. Some people suggest to put back ZDH line but that would be the bad idea because Holmstrom is doing nothing effective. I am not complaining Holmstrom is right there.

The bottom line is that, I am really mad at the Wings because they do not show up when they are up. Like game 5, we went into the game by losing two straight games and the Wings felt the urgency and destroyed the Pens. But as I expected, the Wings came out so flat and did not deserve to win the game again.

Any thought?

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Babs set that tone. I knew we were screwed after his first interview. "We aren't really worried about matchups we just want to get good changes" They are a younger team Babs you can't wear them down by constantly changing up when they are playing for their season. Instead of putting Zetterberg on Malkin like it has been all series for some unknown reason we changed up. IF IT ISN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT.

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Yes...it is very frustrating.

We can't expect to win by having 3 shots in the first period.

We have WAY to many giveaways. Whenever we did get it in their zone we just lost the puck...and so many blocked shots.

Hank was the only one playing in the first two periods.

But we always play our best in game 7s. So we got this!

(I hope)

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Typical for this team: Dog it for two perioids and hope for the best. Try to win it by playing 15 min of hockey.

Babs is terrible about falling into the match up trap.

For the sake of changes how much time was lost in the O zone tonight? Especisally is the first two periods.

This team better be ready friday or we get blown off the ice. The pens will be given EVERY opportunity to win that game.

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I disagree... I thought the Wings came out with a lot of fire... however, 6 Pens in front of the net at all times tends to make other teams look flat. Especially with 4 zebra sidekicks.

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Gotta start my topic first time as the LGW member and some people may have a hard time to understand my English but hopefully people can understand the idea of my post

As in game 6 in both series against the Ducks and the Pens, the Wings look exactly same. They played like a garbage, they did not feel of urgency, they looked flat, no traffic, no forecheck, PP failed.

I do not see any problem in our line combo. Changing line combo can be either way: going totally in a negative way, or going totally in a positive way. By that, I think our line combo is fine. Some people suggest to put back ZDH line but that would be the bad idea because Holmstrom is doing nothing effective. I am not complaining Holmstrom is right there.

The bottom line is that, I am really mad at the Wings because they do not show up when they are up. Like game 5, we went into the game by losing two straight games and the Wings felt the urgency and destroyed the Pens. But as I expected, the Wings came out so flat and did not deserve to win the game again.

Any thought?

I agree with you , this really sucked! I hate game 7's, anything can happen! I will give the Pens a little credit tonight, they came hard in the first two periods, taking us off of our game. I still expected more from the Wings though, flat yes, urgency no! We'll get them at the Joe, they can't win there!!!

Go WINGS!

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I disagree... I thought the Wings came out with a lot of fire... however, 6 Pens in front of the net at all times tends to make other teams look flat. Especially with 4 zebra sidekicks.

Despite the spate of missed calls, you saw the power plays and both of those were AFTER the Drapes goal.

Neither one looked very sharp.

The Pens won this game without help (unless you count the Wings looking very flat from the very beginning of the game which allowed a 2 goal lead to be built).....

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it's beyond belief, really. this is game of six of the finals!!! where the f*** were the wings for the first two periods? of all the games to come out flat. unbelievable!!!!!!! :ranting:

And after the "much needed rest" they were all clamoring about.

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You know what I think leads to a team looking flat and too timid to finish checks and such? A lame-ass goaltender interference call when it was clearly NOT a penalty. They looked like crap after that...way too timid to play their game.

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I disagree... I thought the Wings came out with a lot of fire... however, 6 Pens in front of the net at all times tends to make other teams look flat. Especially with 4 zebra sidekicks.

I am not bashing you but I wonder what game you were watching. The WIngs came out with a lot of fire? No way. The Wings made only 3 shots on MAF while they were outshot by something around 10. That is the story. Their laziness costs the first goal early in the 2nd period and got owned throughout the game.

Besides, I hated the official tonight but the Wings did not deserve to win this game. They looked very lost, crashed each other, no traffic, no good backcheck, invisible forecheck, dumb penalties, etc..

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Its pretty simple. Babcocks game plan at the Igloo is as follows:

1) Get the puck in the defensive zone

2) Gain the red line

3) Dump the Puck

4) Go for the change

You want to know why everyone looks like s***? Because the Red Wings have played a certain type of game for 99% of the season, and at the Igloo, Babs has decided that the Wings are just going to "weather the storm" and sit back while focusing on the match-ups while playing dump and chase...

Newsflash: The Red Wings are the anti-dump and chase team. They are a puck possession team. They rely on carrying the puck through the neutral zone or hitting streaking forwards with a pass to get in behind the defense. How many times did the Wings get in behind the Pens defense tonight? Once? Twice?

This game was lost because Babcock - for whatever reason - thinks a skilled puck, possession team is going to win a dump-and-chase, board battle game. This game was lost along the boards tonight. The only way you succeed in a dump-and-chase game is a strong forecheck and winning board battles.

The board battles were lost. The forecheck was non-existent. And the offense suffered, by having to clear the offensive zone nearly every time they entered it.

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Its pretty simple. Babcocks game plan at the Igloo is as follows:

1) Get the puck in the defensive zone

2) Gain the red line

3) Dump the Puck

4) Go for the change

You want to know why everyone looks like s***? Because the Red Wings have played a certain type of game for 99% of the season, and at the Igloo, Babs has decided that the Wings are just going to "weather the storm" and sit back while focusing on the match-ups while playing dump and chase...

Newsflash: The Red Wings are the anti-dump and chase team. They are a puck possession team. They rely on carrying the puck through the neutral zone or hitting streaking forwards with a pass to get in behind the defense. How many times did the Wings get in behind the Pens defense tonight? Once? Twice?

This game was lost because Babcock - for whatever reason - thinks a skilled puck, possession team is going to win a dump-and-chase, board battle game. This game was lost along the boards tonight. The only way you succeed in a dump-and-chase game is a strong forecheck and winning board battles.

The board battles were lost. The forecheck was non-existent. And the offense suffered, by having to clear the offensive zone nearly every time they entered it.

Couldn't agree more...dump and change...what the Hell is that? Wings were afraid of getting Crosby and Malkin in behind them but the Pens just sped through the neutral zone and in on Osgood. Alot of standing around by the Wings. Dats was strong on D tonight. I thought the Pens got away with alot of holding and interference. That call on Filppula came real late. I don't think the ref even wanted to call it until the Wings bench started screaming. I figured we wouldn't get any calls until late in the game.

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The Pens won this game without help (unless you count the Wings looking very flat from the very beginning of the game which allowed a 2 goal lead to be built).....

Without Help!?!?!? What game were you watching. Watch that game again and don't follow the puck, watch behind the play and you'll realize how many times we should have been on the powerplay during the first two periods. You don't have enough fingers to count them, plan on taking your socks off.

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Without Help!?!?!? What game were you watching. Watch that game again and don't follow the puck, watch behind the play and you'll realize how many times we should have been on the powerplay during the first two periods. You don't have enough fingers to count them, plan on taking your socks off.

You DID see the power plays the Wings had AFTER Draper scored right?

Why should I believe the Wings would have looked any better BEFORE that point??????

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I agree with the OP. Although I didn't appreciate the BS call on Zetterberg, the wings lost this game because they didn't bring it.

Hopefully it's all a conspiracy to get it to game 7 or something. It was as if the Wings didn't want to try for most of the game.

Let's hope our crowd can get the Wings moving friday. Good thing we're waiting extra time for the next game to appease NBC.

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You DID see the power plays the Wings had AFTER Draper scored right?

Why should I believe the Wings would have looked any better BEFORE that point??????

I agree with Buckeye. Although I do think the Pens should have had a lot more interference penalties, it wouldn't have mattered if the Wings kept playing the way they were.

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