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#41 lochness65

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:44 PM

No, the better team won. Played 7, they won 4, that's it. Yes, we do seem to have a bit more talent, but, I fear that some of our guys are getting a little long in the tooth. If your gonna say that, the the Wings deserve about 4 more cups, but, we didn't win them, for that matter, perhaps we should award the Pens 2 or 3 more cups for the early 90's, they had the "best" team in 93 and 94 too, but, that is not the case. I'm a red wings die hard, but, hats off to the Pens for beating us in our own house. I know your mad, let it ride a few days, hockey season will be here soon, allthough my ticker needs a rest.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:45 PM

I hope the mods close this thread. Its embarrassing and makes us look like sore losers.
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#43 lochness65

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:45 PM

No, the better team won. Played 7, they won 4, that's it. Yes, we do seem to have a bit more talent, but, I fear that some of our guys are getting a little long in the tooth. If your gonna say that, the the Wings deserve about 4 more cups, but, we didn't win them, for that matter, perhaps we should award the Pens 2 or 3 more cups for the early 90's, they had the "best" team in 93 and 94 too, but, that is not the case. I'm a red wings die hard, but, hats off to the Pens for beating us in our own house. I know your mad, let it ride a few days, hockey season will be here soon, allthough my ticker needs a rest.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE (PenaltyShot 96 @ June 13, 2009 - 12:36AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The apathetic attitude in this thread surprises me. I fully understand that the handshake line doesn't change the loss, doesn't make it easier to accept, and "doesn't matter" in the grand scheme of things, but it's what good sportsmen do. It's a timeless show of respect for both teams. I agree that Nick Lidstrom would never be too distracted to shake the other teams' hands and congradulate them. If he failed to acknowledge the worthiness of his opponent, he would not be the phenomonal player and well-respected person that he is.

And I don't say this just because it's Crosby who skipped out, but since it is Crosby and he is "The Face of the NHL," is that really the message the NHL wants to send? So all of the kids who idolize Crosby should think now that it's ok to not shake your opponents' hands becuase you won and you were too busy celebrating?

Flame me if you want to, I guess, but I was brought up to respect the other team in both victory and defeat.

the reason there is a who gives a s*** attitude, is because the season is OVER! Most of us are probably tired of hearing about Crosby, one way or the other. I don't care what he did or didn't do we are going to have to hear it none stop next season, because our team played like the 06 pistons. So I for one am tired of hearing everything sid does. Whats next sid doesn't use enough toilet paper to wipe his ass.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:46 PM

He shook hands, he shook Babcock's hand at the end of the line...leave the kid alone.

I actually like what Sid said when Mickey and Bernie interviewed him, about him not wanting to be out there in the 3rd and hindering his team.
U GUYS ARE FUKIN ANYOING IM GONNA COME DOWN THERE AND KILL ALL YALL THE ONLY THING THAT SAVED UR TEAM WAS OSGOOD AND OSSGOOD SUKS 2 JUST LIKE UR WHOLE FUKIN TEAM I HOPE U HEARD THIS AND THINK CAUSE ALL I GOT TO SAY TO U IS UR A BUNCH OF FUKIN IDIOTS BARONS A HOOSER CUSE HE WENT TO UR TEAM AND I HOPE U GUYS SHOULD SEND UR TEAM TO ANOTHER CITY CAUSE U GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF FUKIN WHINERS GO CANUCKS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --- A canucks fan on stltoday.com

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:46 PM

QUOTE (datsyukismyfriend @ June 13, 2009 - 12:43AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i can't stand it when people pass judgement on posters blowing off steam. from my experience there are two types of posters on the forum, those that bash the teams after a loss, and those that bash posters bashing the team after a loss. only one of the two try to make it personal. there's no need to make it personal.

if people don't expect or tolerate complaining after the biggest game of the season has been lost, they probably shouldn't bother visiting this site after the biggest game of the season has been lost.

i've watched every game this year. i've invested a lot of emotion into this team this year. it's natural i'm going to be pissed off after a loss of this magnitude. but as disappointed as i feel, i didn't get personal with another poster. i directed my disappoinment to the game, where it belongs.


Definitely.

It's just that while the game is going on the constant bashing isn't helpful at all for anything.

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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:50 PM

QUOTE (Firehawk @ June 13, 2009 - 12:46AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He shook hands, he shook Babcock's hand at the end of the line...leave the kid alone.

I actually like what Sid said when Mickey and Bernie interviewed him, about him not wanting to be out there in the 3rd and hindering his team.

wish draper would have the same respect when asked to suit up for the series, or maybe maltby or Homer could have said "Listen coach, I've been sucking balls all playoffs, maybe you should put in Abby, you know he's scored 2 goals in the SCF"

That could have helped the team.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:52 PM

QUOTE (titanium2 @ June 12, 2009 - 11:46PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Definitely.

It's just that while the game is going on the constant bashing isn't helpful at all for anything.

i didn't bash once while the game was on, i didn't even post. infact, on the whole tonight i've done much more praising than bashing. i called out sid, that's an opinion. i may be off on his character, but i don't like him. but in posts in several threads i gave the pens their due credit. they were the better team and deserved to win, no doubt. i paid respect to the wings for having the second best season in the nhl this year. it's an accomplishment. i called out homer and hossa. they didn't do enough to put us over the top. that's it. it's a pretty level-headed assessment if you ask me, especially considering the game we just lost and the amount of energy, time, and emotion i've invested in the wings this year.

the season is at an end. it's not an easy pill to swallow. especially since, other than the ducks, there isn't another team i'l like less to lose the cup to.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:53 PM

QUOTE (Shoreline @ June 13, 2009 - 12:42AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I ended up going over that handshake on the DVR as soon as I saw someone post about it. "Skipping" the handshake is vastly different than missing most of it (not all), especially when you're getting congratulated by the coaching staff and players coming out of their handshakes alike. He is young, after all, and being human, sometimes players can get caught up in the moment. Turning this into an issue of "class" is to turn molehills into mountains. It really IS a "who gives a f***?" situation, unless he flat out says he didn't want to shake hands with the team. It's an over-analysis and it just best serves to detract from the fact that this kid is a decent captain who just beat the Red Wings. A justification for an exuberant amount of vile dislike or hatred for a hockey player.

I can see your hair-splitting distinction, and like I said, I'm not picking on Crosby. I actually didn't even use the word "class." I also understand that the Wings players probably aren't scarred for life by his omission. But I believe that ever sportscaster, writer, and fan who called LeBron James immature for refusing to shake the hands of the Orlando Magic would agree with me.

Perhaps I am just old-fashioned in my thinking...maybe the handshake line isn't as important these days as my parents and my coaches of old taught me. Is a simple symbolic handshake too much to ask?
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:59 PM

personally I never liked shaking the persons hand I lost to anyway, not disrespecting but I'm just usually pissed.
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Posted 12 June 2009 - 11:59 PM

QUOTE (datsyukismyfriend @ June 13, 2009 - 12:52AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i didn't bash once while the game was on, i didn't even post. infact, on the whole tonight i've done much more praising than bashing. i called out sid, that's an opinion. i may be off on his character, but i don't like him. but in posts in several threads i gave the pens their due credit. they were the better team and deserved to win, no doubt. i paid respect to the wings for having the second best season in the nhl this year. it's an accomplishment. i called out homer and hossa. they didn't do enough to put us over the top. that's it. it's a pretty level-headed assessment if you ask me, especially considering the game we just lost and the amount of energy, time, and emotion i've invested in the wings this year.

the season is at an end. it's not an easy pill to swallow. especially since, other than the ducks, there isn't another team i'l like less to lose the cup to.


Oh no I'm sorry I didn't mean you. I should've said that in the beginning. Your allowed to have emotions and opinions and I respect them. I don't agree with the whole put people on ignore thing unless it's severely chronic, which is the case for some on here. There were just too many that were bashing while play was still going on. They exaggerate the lows but barely acknowledge the highs. It's as if they enjoy spreading misery. It's a lot easier to put a team down while they're losing instead of having some guts and investing some faith. In regards to interaction with others and maybe situations where they have power over someone, that works sometimes but over the long term it does more damage.

But I really didn't mean that as a personal attack on you and for that I apologize. In my view you're not one of those people.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 12:05 AM

QUOTE (titanium2 @ June 12, 2009 - 11:59PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh no I'm sorry I didn't mean you. I should've said that in the beginning. Your allowed to have emotions and opinions and I respect them. I don't agree with the whole put people on ignore thing unless it's severely chronic, which is the case for some on here. There were just too many that were bashing while play was still going on. They exaggerate the lows but barely acknowledge the highs. It's as if they enjoy spreading misery. It's a lot easier to put a team down while they're losing instead of having some guts and investing some faith. In regards to interaction with others and maybe situations where they have power over someone, that works sometimes but over the long term it does more damage.

But I really didn't mean that as a personal attack on you and for that I apologize. In my view you're not one of those people.

no problem, i misunderstood. thumbup.gif i can't exactly claim to be thinking clearly right not! lol
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 12:15 AM

QUOTE (PenaltyShot 96 @ June 13, 2009 - 12:36AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The apathetic attitude in this thread surprises me. I fully understand that the handshake line doesn't change the loss, doesn't make it easier to accept, and "doesn't matter" in the grand scheme of things, but it's what good sportsmen do. It's a timeless show of respect for both teams. I agree that Nick Lidstrom would never be too distracted to shake the other teams' hands and congradulate them. If he failed to acknowledge the worthiness of his opponent, he would not be the phenomonal player and well-respected person that he is.

And I don't say this just because it's Crosby who skipped out, but since it is Crosby and he is "The Face of the NHL," is that really the message the NHL wants to send? So all of the kids who idolize Crosby should think now that it's ok to not shake your opponents' hands becuase you won and you were too busy celebrating?

Flame me if you want to, I guess, but I was brought up to respect the other team in both victory and defeat.




I'd only be bothered by it if it was one of ours doing that. Since Crosby is not a Red Wing, let him behave however he chooses. It reflects on him, not us. We shook their hands, we said "good game", we did our jobs as far as the handshake line is concerned. That's all I care about. My team wins and loses with class.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 12:16 AM

He led his team to victory.

However, I think the slash on Z in game 5 was a bit much and you don't see the same sportsmanship in him as in our guys. But I can only hope that if the NHL continues to display him this much that he can be more genuine in the future and not be such a puppet.

Crosby is a great player no doubt, but he needs to display a little more class for the sake of the game.


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Posted 13 June 2009 - 12:18 AM

I'm going to try to change the direction of this thread.

What's more impressive? Being the youngest captain or the first European born and trained captain to hoist a cup?

I know I'm biased but I say European. North Americans grow up with the NHL style right from pee-wees. Euros have to adjust to a new culture and lifestyle when they make the move.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 12:21 AM

Good grief, this thread is pointless.

We lost.

Channeling sadness/anger over someone you love to hate is stupid at best.

Mule didn't get an interference penalty when he unintenionally injured Crosby. Did you see Sid whining about that? Maybe you did, you're looking hard enough for excuses.

Pheh.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 12:21 AM

QUOTE (Electrophile @ June 13, 2009 - 01:15AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd only be bothered by it if it was one of ours doing that. Since Crosby is not a Red Wing, let him behave however he chooses. It reflects on him, not us. We shook their hands, we said "good game", we did our jobs as far as the handshake line is concerned. That's all I care about. My team wins and loses with class.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 12:27 AM

QUOTE (PenaltyShot 96 @ June 12, 2009 - 09:53PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can see your hair-splitting distinction, and like I said, I'm not picking on Crosby. I actually didn't even use the word "class." I also understand that the Wings players probably aren't scarred for life by his omission. But I believe that ever sportscaster, writer, and fan who called LeBron James immature for refusing to shake the hands of the Orlando Magic would agree with me.

Perhaps I am just old-fashioned in my thinking...maybe the handshake line isn't as important these days as my parents and my coaches of old taught me. Is a simple symbolic handshake too much to ask?

James, upon looking at the video, just left the court and said f*** all to shaking hands with anyone. Vastly different from being on the ice and coming to the handshake line late while being hugged and congratulated left and right. Maybe he was aware, maybe he wasn't aware, however, it's quite a waste of time to get up in arms (for anyone) over something so insignificant, given that Crosby didn't just leave the friggen ice or flag out refuse to shake hands, unlike the blatant disregarding by guys like James.

Regarding the splitting hairs thing, it was more or less a general comment since Crosby bashing is such a fun past time here, all while hypocritically whining about the media/league giving him so much attention while they give him more attention whining about him. Ironic. I don't even think the Penguins board has this many topics about Crosby's demeanor about every little thing he does.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:38 AM

So Crosby was too busy celebrating to do the hand shake line? Is this true?
Ilitch walked by Bettman who tried to shake his hand? Is that true too?
I know it may seem petty, but can anyone verify either of these? Seems unclassy for both if true.

Crosby ends up looking like winning was it and he could care less. Not cool. At the very least, he was just too caught up in celebrating and simply "forgot." Still, it hardly is surprising.

Ilitch ends up looking like a fricking junior high school cheer leader mad at one of her little friends at the dance. If Ilitch really doesn't like Bettman, then stand up to him where it counts, not with this lame s***. Should have shook his hand, looked him right in the eye and said his mind. As for all season and playoffs, he's got money, so speak out when it counts and take the damn fines.



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Posted 13 June 2009 - 08:40 AM

Where the hell did you here this?

Goodbye: Hossa, Kopecky, Conklin, Samuelsson, Haydar, Hudler
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