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Draper ticked that Crosby snubbed Lidstrom

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From my understanding, Crosby was doing an interview at the time and skated over to the handshake line when he was finished. I may be wrong, though.

You are correct.

Does that make it right? Should the captain focus his attention to the media before he shakes the hands of the other team? Did Lidstrom do that to him last year?

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the truth of the matter is the wings were shell shocked in game 7. they thought their home ice advantage would carry them through but it didn't. they assumed they would win because they are the wings and no one can beat them. instead, they faced a hungrier pens teams that put them on their tails. next thing you know they start taking cheap shots like what franzen did to crosby.

I'm fairly certain that no team in the NHL thinks "We're the best. Nobody can beat us." That type of mentality will make a team fail year after year, round after round, game after game. It's a mentality that Babcock has spoken out against on many occasions. You do not let a loss get in your head and you do the same with a win. The Red Wings are among the best when it comes to following that logic. They're not arrogant or egotistical. They constantly talk about how they know the other team is going to give them a run for their money.

They're professional ice hockey players - not arrogant idiots.

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From my understanding, Crosby was doing an interview at the time and skated over to the handshake line when he was finished. I may be wrong, though.

understandable But as the "face of the NHL" you still make EVERY EFFORT to shake hands...

It is the part of the game when you congradulate each other for a great series..... not a pie in the face...

everyone shook Lemieuxs hand after driving Drapers face into the boards... nothing like that happened in this

series.....it went 7 games....7 games and he snubbed our guys after we waited to shake his hand....

to hell with that pole smoker!!!

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You are correct.

Does that make it right? Should the captain focus his attention to the media before he shakes the hands of the other team? Did Lidstrom do that to him last year?

Whether it's right or wrong is really up for the viewer/players to decide. I'm not upset by it. I don't think Crosby did it intentionally to piss off the Wings or anybody watching at the time. Should he have shook hands first and THEN proceeded with his interview? Probably. But I don't think his intentions were bad in doing what he did. So no harm done, in my mind.

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Like it or not, Sidney Crosby is the face of the NHL in the same manner Peyton Manning is the face of the NFL ..... That's just marketing folks ... it is what it is.

Nobody is asking for your approval. I'm sure if the NHL elected to make on of the Wings players the face of the league you all would have no problem with it.

I have watched football for a very, very long time and never have I seen any player be marketed as the face of the NFL. I see commercials during football season with different players...heck I even see commercials featuring fans of different teams much unlike the Center Ice commercial that only featured the Pens fan. I am pretty sure that I could come up with a marketing strategy that could help the NHL and maybe actually make it more popular, but having one player be the so called "face" of the NHL drives fans away. There is a guy that I work with that doesn't watch hockey, but he likes Cindy...how the heck do you figure that happened? It's because Cindy gets shoved down everyone's throat and instead of him helping the sport, he has now become the villain. I for one don't want a "face" of the league, I think there should be many "faces." Pick some veterans and some youngsters and see what happens.

In closing, I just have to say that I know who the better team was...they may not have won, but I am still proud of the team and thankful that we have Lids as Captain!

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shame on you sidney. even with a torn MCL, thanks to franzen's cheap shot, you should have raced over to shake the great lidstrom and draper's (lol) hand. after all, the kings of the NHL, the red wings, were waiting.

That was a far cry from a cheap shot and you know it, but by all means, continue to be a troll and a dick.

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Your interpretation is pathetic.

So an attempt to play the body to get the puck is now a cheapshot? Seriously, go back to a Ducks board because you are making an absolute fool of yourself right now.

the guy never went for the puck. franzen stick was no where near the puck. his focus was to take sidney out. i'm not the only one who thought the hit was dirty. even a toronto star writer feels the same way. http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/650549

bottom line was that frazen's hit was illegal, just like pronger's hit to tomas holmstrom in 2007 or niedermayer's elbow to datsyuk this year.

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shame on you sidney. even with a torn MCL, thanks to franzen's cheap shot, you should have raced over to shake the great lidstrom and draper's (lol) hand. after all, the kings of the NHL, the red wings, were waiting.

any hit against Cindy is a cheap Shot???? why did he put his knee in the way..

and at least you were right about Lids being a better captain then Cindy....he was waitng for that pole smoker in the center ice ......

also i really liked how with his TORN MCL he was still able to lift a 40lbs of silver but not shake hands??

your point...... Fail!!!!!!

Edited by Hockeytown_Ryan

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shame on you sidney. even with a torn MCL, thanks to franzen's cheap shot, you should have raced over to shake the great lidstrom and draper's (lol) hand. after all, the kings of the NHL, the red wings, were waiting.

Had Crosby avoided shaking Lidstrom's hand on purpose, people would have a legitimate gripe. The handshake isn't so much out of respect for the person as it is out of respect for the game and the organization.

But, like I said, I don't think Crosby purposely avoided shaking anybody's hand. If he had, though, that would be HIGHLY disrespectful.

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Listen up Red Wing fans. We have it all wrong.

Rules to be used when playing Cindy Crysby:

1) Under NO circumstances are you allowed to touch him or take the puck.

Unless you want to have a penalty called or face the wrath of his whining.

2) When Penguins interfere with every one of your dump-in plays it is good.

When Penguins dump in the puck, and Franzen does them one up by putting a legal hip-check on Crysby (who tried to jump over him??) It's a cheap shot! yea!

3) When lining up for hand-shakes, you must search out Cindy Crysby in all his glory and beg for him to shake your hand. He is in no way obligated to shake your hand, after-all you are all inferior.

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the guy never went for the puck. franzen stick was no where near the puck. his focus was to take sidney out. i'm not the only one who thought the hit was dirty. even a toronto star writer feels the same way. http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/650549

bottom line was that frazen's hit was illegal, just like pronger's hit to tomas holmstrom in 2007 or niedermayer's elbow to datsyuk this year.

Damien Cox thinks the hit was illegal guys. We should give up our argument. After all, Cox does an excellent job of describing why the hit was illegal. Oh wait... Saying Crosby never had the puck is a flat out lie because he did have the puck and had literally just moved it forward before Mule hit him. You can hit a player who doesn't have the puck, so long as the timing is correct. What's your next horrible argument?

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the guy never went for the puck. franzen stick was no where near the puck. his focus was to take sidney out. i'm not the only one who thought the hit was dirty. even a toronto star writer feels the same way. http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/650549

bottom line was that frazen's hit was illegal, just like pronger's hit to tomas holmstrom in 2007 or niedermayer's elbow to datsyuk this year.

You have some balls coming onto a Wings site and calling what Mule did "dirty". Seriously? Who ended the Ducks season again? Oh, that's right...the Wings did. Stop making yourself look like more and more of a dick, and go back to your Ducks board.

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Don't other fan-specific sites exist where these so called pens' fans can go? The trolling is getting obnoxious and ridiculous. You are never going to win the argument. You wanna know why? Because this is a Red Wing fan site. If you want to provide intellectual posts, please do. It leaves me wondering how many of these trolls would be here had the pens not won. Sore winners come across as arrogant and pathetic.

Edited by Wings_Rule_1010

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You have some balls coming onto a Wings site and calling what Mule did "dirty". Seriously? Who ended the Ducks season again? Oh, that's right...the Wings did. Stop making yourself look like more and more of a dick, and go back to your Ducks board.

maybe we didn't win but we took you down with us. we hit you so hard you didn't have the legs to skate in the SCF. and you can keep talking about beating us off a cheap dan clearly goal. i'd rather lose early than in the SCF by one goal in what will likely be a devastating loss that the wings just won't be able to shake off.

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maybe we didn't win but we took you down with us. we hit you so hard you didn't have the legs to skate in the SCF. and you can keep talking about beating us off a cheap dan clearly goal. i'd rather lose early than in the SCF by one goal in what will likely be a devastating loss that the wings just won't be able to shake off.

:blink:

We're talking about the same Detroit Red Wings, right?

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maybe we didn't win but we took you down with us. we hit you so hard you didn't have the legs to skate in the SCF. and you can keep talking about beating us off a cheap dan clearly goal. i'd rather lose early than in the SCF by one goal in what will likely be a devastating loss that the wings just won't be able to shake off.

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maybe we didn't win but we took you down with us. we hit you so hard you didn't have the legs to skate in the SCF. and you can keep talking about beating us off a cheap dan clearly goal. i'd rather lose early than in the SCF by one goal in what will likely be a devastating loss that the wings just won't be able to shake off.

:taunt: heh heh your funny........

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the guy never went for the puck. franzen stick was no where near the puck. his focus was to take sidney out. i'm not the only one who thought the hit was dirty. even a toronto star writer feels the same way. http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/650549

bottom line was that frazen's hit was illegal, just like pronger's hit to tomas holmstrom in 2007 or niedermayer's elbow to datsyuk this year.

His "focus" was to keep Sid from taking the puck, so he put his body in front of him as he attempted to get the puck. Sidney held him up so Franzen had to leave it for Rafalski.

You aren't fooling anyone here.

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maybe we didn't win but we took you down with us. we hit you so hard you didn't have the legs to skate in the SCF. and you can keep talking about beating us off a cheap dan clearly goal. i'd rather lose early than in the SCF by one goal in what will likely be a devastating loss that the wings just won't be able to shake off.

Hmmm. After you, we dispatched Chicago easily. Are you really taking credit for soemthing that happened 3 weeks after you got bounced from the playoffs?

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It was really so insurmountably difficult for Crosby to just say "Hey, hang on a second" to the media?

No. But is he so terribly classless because it didn't occur to him while on pain killers during the greatest moment of his life? I understand the frustration, but I thought your fans were better than all this whining.

Edited by Dr Rosenrosen

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His "focus" was to keep Sid from taking the puck, so he put his body in front of him as he attempted to get the puck. Sidney held him up so Franzen had to leave it for Rafalski.

You aren't fooling anyone here.

It wasn't dirty, but it's a clear interference. He has every right to hold Sid up because Sid nicked the puck with his stick. But he's NOT allowed to go out of his way to do it, which he blatantly did. It wasn't anything more than they were getting away with all series though.

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No. But is he so terribly classless because it didn't occur to him while on pain killers during the greatest moment of his life? I understand the frustration, but I thought your fans were better than all this whining.

Considering this is the first time it has happened, it is hard to cut him slack on the issue.

However it is horrible of people to start asking for interviews before the handshakes to begin with.

It wasn't dirty, but it's a clear interference. He has every right to hold Sid up because Sid nicked the puck with his stick. But he's NOT allowed to go out of his way to do it, which he blatantly did. It wasn't anything more than they were getting away with all series though.

Franzen would have gotten the puck if Crosby didn't grab him. That play happens in the regular season, playoffs, all the time. It was not any kind of interference call. Not clear, not obvious, not anything.

If anyone should have gotten a penalty it should have been Crosby for holding.

Edited by Doc Holiday

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Franzen would have gotten the puck if Crosby didn't grab him. That play happens in the regular season, playoffs, all the time. It was not any kind of interference call. Not clear, not obvious, not anything.

If anyone should have gotten a penalty it should have been Crosby for holding.

uum ok. franzen made NO effort whatsover after the hit to get the puck. in fact if anything he slowed up and prevented crosby from getting it. and crosby wasn't holding onto anything. his arm just happened to be on franzen's shoulder but in no way was it preventing franzen from going after the puck. franzen is a big 6'3 guy and crosby is only 5'11. you're telling me that a smaller guy like crosby who is obviously in serious pain at that moment was strong i enough or summoned the will to hold a much bigger johan franzen up? that's a brainless comment.

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