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#21 Cern

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:08 PM

QUOTE (Hockeymom1960 @ June 13, 2009 - 02:44PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's the problem..they are kids. Kids don't know better, lol.

Oh god, that reminds of that one Sid commercial I hate heads and shoulders above all others. You know that EDGE jersey ad where it's implied that Crosby grew up as a diehard Penguins fan even though he's on record saying his favourite team as a kid was the Habs and his fav player was Steve Y? FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, it just makes me rage so hard that he's essentially authorized his childhood to be flushed down the toilet like that.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE (MidMichSteve @ June 13, 2009 - 03:58PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Season is over. What do you expect, Baseball? scared.gif

Huh?

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:15 PM

I was not happy about that at all and I was also not happy that Crosby also snubbed Babcock in the line as well. As Detroit Coach Mike Babcock was congratulating Sidney Crosby and telling him that he showed great leadership; Crosby turns his back and skates away before Babsy get's to even finish his COMPLIMENT to Crosby. I'm sorry but now I want Crosby's head on a platter. Complete disrespect for a person in his role or by anyone for that matter. It makes me sick.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:16 PM

Pittsburgh on top of the mountain? Yep, jus like the Lightning and Hurricanes were too. I am glad you won, at least now the commercials will actually hold some water. At least they can show then winning instead of just scoring a goal in a losing effort. You have your Cup, enjoy it. Time will tell if you'll be able to defend it. I hope you son't fall off the bandwagon when you don't repeat. If anything, Detroit and New Jersey have been to ONLY teams in the NHL that show they consitantly EVERY season seriously compete for a Cup. I will give you this one, you deserved it. But in five years we'll see who has more Cups. When Malkin's salary kicks in, you are going to lose players. You are going to lose the likes of Satan, Fedetanko, Guerin, Scuderi (who should've have gotten the MVP, he saved the Pens ass in game 6 and 7.) Hopefully your farm system is as good as ours because you are going to need it with the HUGE salaries on your team. Enjoy this Cup, this may just be your last. Knowing who the most consistant and dominating team has been since 1995, I know we will be back a couple of times in five years, where will you be? Just remember who won you this Cup. Kennedy, Scuderi, Talbot, Stahl. What are you going to do when their contracts are up? Where's Shero gonna find the dough? At least you've had one win, but when you can become as consistant as Detroit has been, then you can spew your junk.

Now, go enjoy your Cup, leave our forum. It is time for us Wings fans to talk about the off season, the changes coming, and the more than likely 3rd appearance in a row in the Cup finals. Hope you are there with us, so we can get our revenge, but something tells me 1st round, out....

Edited by LeftWinger, 13 June 2009 - 06:21 PM.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Cern @ June 13, 2009 - 04:08PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh god, that reminds of that one Sid commercial I hate heads and shoulders above all others. You know that EDGE jersey ad where it's implied that Crosby grew up as a diehard Penguins fan even though he's on record saying his favourite team as a kid was the Habs and his fav player was Steve Y? FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF, it just makes me rage so hard that he's essentially authorized his childhood to be flushed down the toilet like that.

That's the essence of not only marketing, but in Crosby's case, he's a brand. His actual childhood doesn't matter, because he's portraying an image these companies want. That's what they're paying him the big bucks for, and he's more than willing to go along with it. Therefore, it's the childhood the companies decide he has.

For people confused as to what I'm talking about, try Naomi Klein's No Logo, which is one of many books that go into how marketing and brands work. (although that goes into politics too tongue.gif)

Edited by Shoreline, 13 June 2009 - 06:18 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:19 PM

Okay Sid got swarmed by the Media when the game ended. Like anyone is suprised by that. The Wings lined up and a lot of Penguin players started shaking hands while some were still celebrating. They all started making there way over. Lidstrom and Draper waited about 30 seconds and then skated off the ice. Most of the other Wings players stayed on a little bit longer. As soon as the interview was over Sid made is way over and shook hands with Zetterberg, Osgood, and the rest of the wings. But some left quickly. But I am sure that winning a Stanley Cup at the age of 21 and getting caught up in the moment is a sign of poor sportsmanship.

Edited by SteelCityDyNasty, 13 June 2009 - 06:20 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:25 PM

I'm sorry I just have to laugh at that Username :SteelCityDynasty: Give me a F'ing break already your'e letting this Cup go to your head. Don't forget last season Wings beat the Pens in LESS games and also Crosby and Malkin were watching Zetterberg and Datsyuk skate circles around them all series long last year. I was going to Congratulate the Pens and their fans for being so good and I was also going to say the Fans in Pittsburgh was a huge inspiration for the Penguins liffting the Cup this season but now I think I'll just say Congrats on having the Targets on your back for all of next season. I hope I can catch an Anaheim Vs Pittsubrgh game next season just to see if Pronger can plant Crosby's face into the boards.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:25 PM

QUOTE (SteelCityDyNasty @ June 13, 2009 - 03:19PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But I am sure that winning a Stanley Cup at the age of 21 and getting caught up in the moment is a sign of poor sportsmanship.

Using age as an excuse is bulls*** in any situation. If you're not mature enough at 21 to respect your opponent first and foremost perhaps the voting and drinking ages should be bumped up a couple years.
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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:27 PM

Maybe Mr. Lemieux forgot to teach him about this. Or, maybe they were taking lots of photos for next seasons' NHL commercial campaign.

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#30 Hockeymom1960

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE (SteelCityDyNasty @ June 13, 2009 - 07:19PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay Sid got swarmed by the Media when the game ended. Like anyone is suprised by that. The Wings lined up and a lot of Penguin players started shaking hands while some were still celebrating. They all started making there way over. Lidstrom and Draper waited about 30 seconds and then skated off the ice. Most of the other Wings players stayed on a little bit longer. As soon as the interview was over Sid made is way over and shook hands with Zetterberg, Osgood, and the rest of the wings. But some left quickly. But I am sure that winning a Stanley Cup at the age of 21 and getting caught up in the moment is a sign of poor sportsmanship.


Hmmm 30 secs, huh. Did you actually count? Were you there? Hmmm will believe draper over any pens fan rolleyes.gif

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:31 PM

QUOTE (Sid the Kid @ June 13, 2009 - 06:23PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like it or not, Sidney Crosby is the face of the NHL in the same manner Peyton Manning is the face of the NFL ..... That's just marketing folks ... it is what it is.

Nobody is asking for your approval. I'm sure if the NHL elected to make on of the Wings players the face of the league you all would have no problem with it.


Actually, I would.

Marketing the NHL with one player is a backhanded way of saying one player is bigger than the team.
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#32 MidMichSteve

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:33 PM

QUOTE (Shoreline @ June 13, 2009 - 06:52PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This argument about the NHL not marketing anyone else besides Crosby has already been defeated before..



It's just obvious as day most Wings fans do not like Crosby therefore do not like seeing him on TV. I can understand how it gets annoying seeing the same face but despite one's claims about how many people hate Crosby, he's a top seller of jerseys, he helps market other brands, and people buy into Crosby being the face of the NHL. If he were such a bad face for it, they wouldn't be doing it. And trust me, if Crosby were to happen to have a picture surface of him with his face in a bong like Phelps his endorsements from every angle would disappear. You guys are making this marketing angle way too personal.

Sorry, I forgot to bold this part. smile.gif

I was saying that because there are no more games to discuss we are taking things more personal then we would have before. Just for the hockey discussion.

I sure don't want to talk baseball!

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (Hockeymom1960 @ June 13, 2009 - 06:21PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sid is NOT the face of the NHL. He's the disgrace of the NHL. If anything, he should have shook hands with Nick--should have went out of his way to make sure he shook his hand.
Exactly. But really who is suprised?

A friend of mine said it best today. We are so use to winning we can't stomach anything less than a Cup every year. I love Marion and Mike. I love Babs. s***, i've been on Holland's ass more than, hmmmm ... like, a thousand times on this forum over what he did or didn't do.
This team, top to bottom, makes me so very, very, very proud to be a Wings fan. And I want to see that drive and determination to win EVERY year! Not many pro TEAMS, never mind NHL teams, can say the same about their organizations. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (Sid the Kid @ June 13, 2009 - 06:23PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like it or not, Sidney Crosby is the face of the NHL in the same manner Peyton Manning is the face of the NFL ..... That's just marketing folks ... it is what it is.

Nobody is asking for your approval. I'm sure if the NHL elected to make on of the Wings players the face of the league you all would have no problem with it.
He came up against two of the best players in the world and didn't very much like it. Hank. Pavs. Take your pick. The crybaby was SHUT DOWN!! And will be again, if ever the Pens get the help from the NHL again, like this year and make it back to the Finals.
And THAT is what I will remember MOST from these playoffs. Sid the "kid" is not a leader, nor the best player in the league. I'll enjoy THAT this summer.


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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (Casey @ June 13, 2009 - 03:31PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually, I would.

Marketing the NHL with one player is a backhanded way of saying one player is bigger than the team.

This. The nature of hockey dosen't lend itself well to single-player glorifications/duels - for all the circlejerking the media was making of the Washington-Pittsburgh series, Crosby and Ovechkin were together on the ice for something like 45min-1h for the entire length of a seven-game series. It's not like in basketball where you have the same guys in play for virtually the entire game and ergo can make an argument for single players squaring up against one another, hockey is defined by frequent, brief cycling shifts, meaning you genuinely need a 20-player effort. Marketing the game with single players produces a misunderstanding of the game from people not already familiar with hockey.
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#35 Hockeymom1960

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 06:40 PM

It's just so sad that the NHL is so blind about how to promote itself. How can you keep trying to promote someone that a lot of ppl just don't like because of his attitude and the way he handles itself. He didn't even perform in the finals, lol.

PLEASE, NHL, GET A CLUE. GET ANOTHER POSTER BOY. OR BETTER, HOW ABOUT PROMOTING THE GAME ITSELF. THE STARS WILL BREAK OUT BECAUSE PPL START UNDERSTANDING AND ENJOYING THE GAME.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 07:04 PM

Yeah, well...I think it's a great idea...EVERY SINGLE new hockey fan HAS to be a Penguins fan...they just have to...it wouldn't make sense for ANY OTHER TEAM to grow their fanbase...ever again. The league MUST make sure this trend continues, as Piitsburgh is a model franchise (Bettman's own words) and Sidney is truly the best possible example of a pro athlete...ever. biggrin.gif

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 07:04 PM

Hmmm

Sidney Crosby is the "face of the NHL" right? Then how come the NHL is dying off faster then the polar ice caps? Maybe there's a correlation between marketing a whiny cheapshotting crybaby and the sport becoming less popular?

#38 Hockeymom1960

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 07:16 PM

Oh and I almost forgot in regards to Sid the Kid's remark about kids buying Sid's jersey, kids relate to Sid because they are experts at whining too. Sheeeesh, I guess 52% of the NHL players must be wrong then if they've voted him the whinest player in the NHL. Wow what a poster boy, NHL.

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 07:32 PM

http://www.nhl.tv/te...le.jsp?id=43746

Watch the video. Lidstrom shakes Dupuis' hand last, waits 17 seconds, and skates off while Sid is in the middle of an interview. As soon as the interview is over, Sid skates over and shakes Franzen's hand.

And they call Sid the whiner. rolleyes.gif

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Dr Rosenrosen @ June 13, 2009 - 08:32PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.nhl.tv/te...le.jsp?id=43746

Watch the video. Lidstrom shakes Dupuis' hand last, waits 17 seconds, and skates off while Sid is in the middle of an interview. As soon as the interview is over, Sid skates over and shakes Franzen's hand.

And they call Sid the whiner. rolleyes.gif


You don't get it do you. Again, 52% of NHL said he is the biggest whiner. I wonder what the percentage of fans say??? lol





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