Draper ticked that Crosby snubbed Lidstrom

[scottyniedermayer 0]

Hmmm. After you, we dispatched Chicago easily. Are you really taking credit for soemthing that happened 3 weeks after you got bounced from the playoffs?

well ok. we had nothing to do with it. the red wings choked on their own. there, happy?

[tazzer82 0]

It wasn't dirty, but it's a clear interference. He has every right to hold Sid up because Sid nicked the puck with his stick. But he's NOT allowed to go out of his way to do it, which he blatantly did. It wasn't anything more than they were getting away with all series though.

Crosby could have just as easily gotten a penalty on that play, had it been anyone else, there would have been one. But whatever. Crosby had better enjoy his Cup, because he isn't going to see another one for awhile...at least not in the next season or two.

[Doc Holiday 0]

uum ok. franzen made NO effort whatsover after the hit to get the puck. in fact if anything he slowed up and prevented crosby from getting it. and crosby wasn't holding onto anything. his arm just happened to be on franzen's shoulder but in no way was it preventing franzen from going after the puck. franzen is a big 6'3 guy and crosby is only 5'11. you're telling me that a smaller guy like crosby who is obviously in serious pain at that moment was strong i enough or summoned the will to hold a much bigger johan franzen up? that's a brainless comment.

So you mean to tell me if someone grabs onto your shoulder with one of their legs in the air that won't slow you down?

How delusional can you be?

[scottyniedermayer 0]

It wasn't dirty, but it's a clear interference. He has every right to hold Sid up because Sid nicked the puck with his stick. But he's NOT allowed to go out of his way to do it, which he blatantly did. It wasn't anything more than they were getting away with all series though.

sid never nicked the puck. the puck was going up the boards. sid was going after it. franzen with his oversized body put his left knee and all his weight onto sid's left knee. it was knee on knee. crosby never had the puck. this is arguably worse than kronwall's hit on havlat, who had the puck around his skates but never touched it. notice how franzen never made any additional effort to go after the puck after the hit. he slowed sid up, put his left arm out to impede crosby and simply skated away without much effort.

[thedisappearer 291]

well ok. we had nothing to do with it. the red wings choked on their own. there, happy?

If you agree the Ducks choked on their own, sure. Deal.

[scottyniedermayer 0]

So you mean to tell me if someone grabs onto your shoulder with one of their legs in the air that won't slow you down?

How delusional can you be?

he didn't "grab" anything. his arm simply happened to be touching franzen's shoulder like a fly. you're making it sound as if crosby grabbed onto his jersey or something. you are obviosly not watching the replay.

[Mike 0]

This thread is full of fail from trolls.

[Doc Holiday 0]

he didn't "grab" anything. his arm simply happened to be touching franzen's shoulder like a fly. you're making it sound as if crosby grabbed onto his jersey or something. you are obviosly not watching the replay.

No, YOU are obviously not watching the replay.

[WingsForever 2]

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[WingsForever 2]

No, YOU are obviously not watching the replay.

Seriously. Did crosby just think he could fly over Franzen? lol

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

sid never nicked the puck. the puck was going up the boards. sid was going after it. franzen with his oversized body put his left knee and all his weight onto sid's left knee. it was knee on knee. crosby never had the puck. this is arguably worse than kronwall's hit on havlat, who had the puck around his skates but never touched it. notice how franzen never made any additional effort to go after the puck after the hit. he slowed sid up, put his left arm out to impede crosby and simply skated away without much effort.

You very well may be the only one aside from Chicago fans who are still crying that Kronwall rocking Havlat was somehow a dirty play.

[scottyniedermayer 0]

No, YOU are obviously not watching the replay.

i'm not stupid enough to believe you by looking at one frame. franzen made no attempt to go after the puck on that play. he took sidney out with a vicious and blatent hit to his knee. sidney was defenseless at the point. and franzen has a history of being dirty. he got suspended for an entire year back in sweden for knocking down a ref. some things never change. they call him the mule but he's more like a donkey.

[Mike 0]

i'm not stupid enough to believe you by looking at one frame. franzen made no attempt to go after the puck on that play. he took sidney out with a vicious and blatent hit to his knee. sidney was defenseless at the point. and franzen has a history of being dirty. he got suspended for an entire year back in sweden for knocking down a ref. some things never change. they call him the mule but he's more like a donkey.

And no one here is stupid enough to believe for one minute the garabage that you are spewing out. That's a hip check and a clean hit. There is no intentional hit to the knees.

This is ******* hilarious. A fan of the Ducks calling the Wings players dirty and such. Take a look at your own team before you come on here and decide to be a stupid *******. Quit your bitching, you're wrong.

[Doc Holiday 0]

i'm not stupid enough to believe you by looking at one frame.

One frame shows that Crosby was draped around Franzen. The replays confirm that.

franzen made no attempt to go after the puck on that play. he took sidney out with a vicious and blatent hit to his knee.

How can you deliver a blatant knee on knee when you can't even tell where his knee is? Are you aware of how knee on knee hits occur?

sidney was defenseless at the point. and franzen has a history of being dirty. he got suspended for an entire year back in sweden for knocking down a ref. some things never change. they call him the mule but he's more like a donkey.

Defenseless? How? Crosby knew he was coming and could have stopped or went on the short side. He tried to sneak by and paid the price for it.

Franzen knocking over a ref isn't a history of being dirty. In all of his years in the NHL he hasn't done ANYTHING dirty. He has no relevant history.

The only jackass here is you.

[Mike 0]

One frame shows that Crosby was draped around Franzen. The replays confirm that.

How can you deliver a blatant knee on knee when you can't even tell where his knee is? Are you aware of how knee on knee hits occur?

Defenseless? How? Crosby knew he was coming and could have stopped or went on the short side. He tried to sneak by and paid the price for it.

Franzen knocking over a ref isn't a history of being dirty. In all of his years in the NHL he hasn't done ANYTHING dirty. He has no relevant history.

The only jackass here is you.

Now watch him deny logic even more.

[Hockeytown_Ryan 119]

i'm not stupid enough to believe you by looking at one frame. franzen made no attempt to go after the puck on that play. he took sidney out with a vicious and blatent hit to his knee. sidney was defenseless at the point. and franzen has a history of being dirty. he got suspended for an entire year back in sweden for knocking down a ref. some things never change. they call him the mule but he's more like a donkey.

He's a HOCKEY PLAYER..... are you telling me he didnt see Franzen coming??????

Get real go back to Duckville..... We get it.....you like Crosby's D%#K as much as Bettman....... Noted

Edited June 15, 2009 by Hockeytown_Ryan

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

i'm not stupid enough to believe you by looking at one frame. franzen made no attempt to go after the puck on that play. he took sidney out with a vicious and blatent hit to his knee. sidney was defenseless at the point. and franzen has a history of being dirty. he got suspended for an entire year back in sweden for knocking down a ref. some things never change. they call him the mule but he's more like a donkey.

Said the duck.

[Mike 0]

He's a HOCKEY PLAYER..... are you telling me he didnt see Franzen coming??????

Get real go back to Duckville..... We get it.....you like Crosby's D%#K as much as Bettman....... Noted

You forgot the rules, no one is allowed to touch Crosby. Only Bettman is allowed to touch him.

[WingsForever 2]

I go back to the #1 rule of playing with Crysby

1) Under NO circumstances are you allowed to touch him or take HIS puck.

Unless you want to have a penalty called or face the wrath of his whining.

[Dr Rosenrosen 0]

Saying it was dirty is certainly over the top. However, if Sid held, it was long after the interference had already taken place. If they weren't going to call it, Sid BETTER hold to keep Franzen from gaining an unfair advantage.

[scottyniedermayer 0]

One frame shows that Crosby was draped around Franzen. The replays confirm that.

How can you deliver a blatant knee on knee when you can't even tell where his knee is? Are you aware of how knee on knee hits occur?

Defenseless? How? Crosby knew he was coming and could have stopped or went on the short side. He tried to sneak by and paid the price for it.

Franzen knocking over a ref isn't a history of being dirty. In all of his years in the NHL he hasn't done ANYTHING dirty. He has no relevant history.

The only jackass here is you.

crosby was going after the puck. franzen saw sid coming up the boards and saw his chance to hit a smaller player. it was KNEE ON KNEE. sid never saw franzen and certainly didn't expect a vicious hit to his knee. look at the first smaller frame you posted. you can't tell from the larger pic but can from the smaller pic that franzen hit Sid's knee with his knee. if he wanted to go after the pens star players, why didn't he go after malkin? because malkin would have kicked his rear.

[Doc Holiday 0]

crosby was going after the puck. franzen saw sid coming up the boards and saw his chance to hit a smaller player. it was KNEE ON KNEE. sid never saw franzen and certainly didn't expect a vicious hit to his knee. look at the first smaller frame you posted. you can't tell from the larger pic but can from the smaller pic that franzen hit Sid's knee with his knee. if he wanted to go after the pens star players, why didn't he go after malkin? because malkin would have kicked his rear.

It is official. You are a troll.

[Hockeytown_Ryan 119]

crosby was going after the puck. franzen saw sid coming up the boards and saw his chance to hit a smaller player. it was KNEE ON KNEE. sid never saw franzen and certainly didn't expect a vicious hit to his knee. look at the first smaller frame you posted. you can't tell from the larger pic but can from the smaller pic that franzen hit Sid's knee with his knee. if he wanted to go after the pens star players, why didn't he go after malkin? because malkin would have kicked his rear.

Franzen would of just yanked his mouth piece out....

[Mike 0]

crosby was going after the puck. franzen saw sid coming up the boards and saw his chance to hit a smaller player. it was KNEE ON KNEE. sid never saw franzen and certainly didn't expect a vicious hit to his knee. look at the first smaller frame you posted. you can't tell from the larger pic but can from the smaller pic that franzen hit Sid's knee with his knee. if he wanted to go after the pens star players, why didn't he go after malkin? because malkin would have kicked his rear.

Making the same incorrect argument over and over again does not make you right. It is a hip check, not a knee-on-knee collision. Obviously you don't watch hockey. I would think that you know all about dirty hits and would be able to judge the difference since you have the dirtiest player in the NHL on your team as well as the second biggest whiner.

[teckaholic 0]

The only thing I don't like about Franzen is that he runs over goalies and hardly gets called for it.