YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Follow these Rules. I want to see what people do if this ends up being the scenario. 1. Hudler is gone, via trade or offer-sheet 2. Hossa leaves for free agency, and doesn't return 3. Draper, Maltby, and Homer will not be traded. 4. Helm is on the team. Abdelkader is not. 5. Howard is back-up. End of story. 6. Lilja goes on LTIR. 7. Go with an even cap number of $57M (a 300k improvement). 8. Keep in mind you need to budget for a 13th forward and a 7th Dman. Datsyuk (6.7) Zetterberg (6.08) Franzen (3.95) Cleary (2.8) NTC Holmstrom (2.25) Filppula (3) Maltby (.88) Helm (.59) Draper (1.58) NTC Kronwall (3) Lidstrom (7.45) Rafalski (6) NTC Lebda (.65) Meech (.48) Stuart (3.75) NTC Lilja (1.25 - salary exempt) Ericsson (.9) Osgood (1.4) Howard (.71) Total: $52.17M (4.83M in space) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Perhaps Kindl could fill the D spot. Sign a gritty forward. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Diamonds 25 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Ok, I'd try to sign either Knuble or LaRose and then see if I can get Numminen on a one year contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 "A" gritty forward? That's nine forwards listed there, people. It's gonna take more than Mike Knuble or Chad LaRose to reach a team you can put on the ice, unless of course you are Mike Keenan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Call up Adam Banks from the Mighty Ducks of District 5 and call it a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coolio Mendez 7 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Perhaps Kindl could fill the D spot. Sign a gritty forward. Holland has stated several times Kindl is not NHL ready yet. I'm a huge supporter of bringing in Lappy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frederick9125 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 play meech on 4th line, sign antopov2mil, lappy 1mill, leino1.2mill. Dats-z-cleary Mule-antopov-homer helm-lappy-leino malts-draps-meech lids-rafi stu-kronner ericsson-lebs oz howard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 "A" gritty forward? That's nine forwards listed there, people. It's gonna take more than Mike Knuble or Chad LaRose to reach a team you can put on the ice, unless of course you are Mike Keenan. Haha, that made me laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) 1. Try to re-sign Sammy for 1.9 (Even though he would make much more on the open market) 2. Attempt to bring back Bertuzzi for 1.4 3. Kopecky re-signs for 500K 4. Re-sign Leino for 900K Salary comes to a total $4.7 Million Datsyuk-Zetterberg-Holmstrom Cleary-Filppula-Franzen Leino-Helm-Sammuelson Maltby-Draper-Bertuzzi Kopecky Lidstrom-Rafalski Stuart-Kronwall Lebda-Ericcson Meech Edit: Line-up Edited June 25, 2009 by wingsdiehard13 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Use this guys. http://www.redwingscentral.com/features/buildyourown.php Edited June 25, 2009 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 1. Try to re-sign Sammy for 1.9 (Even though he would make much more on the open market) 2. Attempt to bring back Bertuzzi for 1.4 3. Kopecky re-signs for 500K 4. Re-sign Leino for 900K Salary comes to a total $4.7 Million Just out of curiosity, why Kopecky? I'd rather see Downey play 2 minutes a game, give some extra shifts to guys like Helm and Leino, and call it a day then suffer through 8 minutes a night of Kopecky. And I'm not even a Downey fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Just out of curiosity, why Kopecky? I'd rather see Downey play 2 minutes a game, give some extra shifts to guys like Helm and Leino, and call it a day then suffer through 8 minutes a night of Kopecky. And I'm not even a Downey fan. Well, I have no real preference, but it seems Babcock would rather play Kopecky then Downey. I wouldn't mind seeing Downey at all. I just overlooked Downey more than anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) Scratch that, too many centers. Edited June 25, 2009 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lfd250 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 The weather is hot but nice, go outside. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Re-sign Downey. Dont care about the rest tbh. Another fighter like Lappy wouldnt go a miss though (And before anyone tries an enforcer argument with me, I like having an enforcer on the team cos fights are ******* awesome and I want more of them.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Re-sign Downey. Dont care about the rest tbh. Another fighter like Lappy wouldnt go a miss though (And before anyone tries an enforcer argument with me, I like having an enforcer on the team cos fights are ******* awesome and I want more of them.) I knew you'd be here soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 I knew you'd be here soon I think Ive done well to go this long in all the roster threads before mentioning Downey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedFX 48 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Try to reunite the much feared Ellis-Langfeld-Hussey line of 2007 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
detroitsportsman05 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 I followed your guidelines, then I... Trade Lebda for a late round pick. Sign Mike Komisarek Sign Chad LaRose Re-Sign Tomas Kopecky Re-Sign Ville Leino 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Chad LaRose $1,400,000 Ville Leino $900,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Darren Helm $599,444 Tomas Kopecky $500,000 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Mike Komisarek $2,400,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (including bonuses) ROSTER SIZE 21 SALARY CAP $57,000,000 PAYROLL $56,770,653 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 One key problem with the premise of this thread: No way in hell (yes, I'll say it again, No way in hell) we lose Hudler AND Hossa. Either we find a miracle way to keep both or one of them is gone and the other stays. There is absolutely no way Holland let's both walk and ends up behind the 8 ball. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snazzy 0 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Whatever happen to Mattias Ritola? I thought we'd see him in a Wings uniform by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 (edited) "A" gritty forward? That's nine forwards listed there, people. It's gonna take more than Mike Knuble or Chad LaRose to reach a team you can put on the ice, unless of course you are Mike Keenan. Chad LaRose is a great addition for the price and the grit he provides. He's good for a few goals too. I like that call Wasabi. Don't forget that Leino's going to be in too. So we've got one more spot open. Let's say LaRose gets 1.2 million and Leino gets 1 million. Meech is traded off for whatever we can get in picks or 'project' prospect (something that's suited to the Wings given how long they season their prospects). So we've got 3.1 million left over. In that case we don't dump Hudler at all and sign him to a deal just like Filppula's. I'd say he'd be happy with the equivalent deal to Val. But you're being difficult and making me follow rules here... So sign Pahlsson to a 3 year deal at 2.4 million a season. Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Cleary Franzen-Filppula-Leino Pahlsson-Helm-Holmstrom Maltby-Draper-LaRose Lidstrom-Rafalski Kronwall-Stuart Ericsson-Lebda Osgood Howard LTR: Lilja And we're carrying 700,000 in fun bucks. Now the problem is that we'd have to dump Lebda before bringing Lilja back into the line-up. And of course, once Lilja is in there's not enough cap space for an injury call-up. I'm conflicted here. Let me rethink it. Edited June 25, 2009 by Drake_Marcus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 I followed your guidelines, then I... Trade Lebda for a late round pick. Sign Mike Komisarek Sign Chad LaRose Re-Sign Tomas Kopecky Re-Sign Ville Leino 2009-2010 Detroit Red Wings FORWARDS Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000 Daniel Cleary $2,800,000 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Chad LaRose $1,400,000 Ville Leino $900,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Darren Helm $599,444 Tomas Kopecky $500,000 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brian Rafalaski $6,000,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Mike Komisarek $2,400,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (including bonuses) ROSTER SIZE 21 SALARY CAP $57,000,000 PAYROLL $56,770,653 I love this roster. It's not too unrealistic either, if Komisarek wouldn't mind playing on the third pairing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soultrain 43 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Call up Adam Banks from the Mighty Ducks of District 5 and call it a day. oh s*** and call up that black dude who does the knuckle puck! we golden son! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonan78 1 Report post Posted June 25, 2009 Follow these Rules. I want to see what people do if this ends up being the scenario. 1. Hudler is gone, via trade or offer-sheet 2. Hossa leaves for free agency, and doesn't return 3. Draper, Maltby, and Homer will not be traded. 4. Helm is on the team. Abdelkader is not. 5. Howard is back-up. End of story. 6. Lilja goes on LTIR. 7. Go with an even cap number of $57M (a 300k improvement). 8. Keep in mind you need to budget for a 13th forward and a 7th Dman. Using your scenario, here's what I came up with: Re-sign Downey to a two-way deal for 500k Re-sign Ville Leino for 1 million, he gets a permanent roster spot Sign Joel Ward from Nashville for 750k cap hit Trade Meech and draft picks/prospects to Tampa Bay for Evgeny Artyukhin (1 year left on his contract at 950k) Here's the numbers: Forwards Datsyuk 6,700,000 Zetterberg 6,083,333 Franzen 3,954,545 Filppula 3,000,000 Cleary 2,800,000 Holmstrom 2,250,000 Draper 1,583,333 Leino 1,000,000 Artyukhin 950,000 Maltby 883,333 Ward 750,000 Helm 599,444 Defensemen Lidstrom 7,450,000 Rafalski 6,000,000 Stuart 3,750,000 Kronwall 3,000,000 Lilja* 1,250,000 Ericsson 900,000 Lebda 650,000 Goalies Osgood 1,416,666 Howard 716,666 Roster Size 21 Salary Cap $56,700,000 Payroll $55,687,320 Cap Room $1,012,680 *if Lilja does go on LTIR, then call up Kindl to be the 7th defenseman. Here's what my lines look like: Datsyuk/Zetterberg/Cleary Leino/Filppula/Franzen Artyukhin/Helm/Ward Maltby/Draper/Holmstrom Lidstrom/Rafalski Kronwall/Stuart Ericsson/Lilja Lebda With this lineup, we get a black guy to shoot the knuclepuck for soultrain (I tried a scenario where we re-sign Hudler and add either Neil or Laperierre, and the only way I could make it work was to sign Hudler at 2 million and Laperierre at 1.4 million, but I had to cut Leino loose.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
