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#21 GoWings1905

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:25 PM

Antonio McDyess is gone. Total bummer - I am more upset by this than losing Billups or Rasheed just for the fact that 'Dyess deserved to win a championship with the Pistons. He was the only guy the past couple seasons that showed up to play every night and I appreciate that very much. He played the game with a ton of heart and conducted himself as a marvelous human off the court. The problem with 'Dyess was he cared too much and the rest of the Pistons didn't care enough. It was a pleasure to have him in Detroit and he'll go down as my favorite Piston from this group of players.

At least 'Dyess went to a team where he can contribute and have a legitimate shot at a championship. Nobody deserves to win it all more than him. I am very glad he went to the Spurs as I can root for him much easier there than I could had he signed with the Celtics or Cavaliers.

The Pistons are certainly getting younger (which is good) if nothing else this summer. It was time to get some new, younger players on the team. The frontcourt depth still scares me - we have three players signed and one of those is Kwame Brown. I still expect Joe D. to trade either Rip or Prince for some frontcourt help. My first choice would be Tyson Chandler. Villanueva and Gordon add scoring but we need some tough, interior defense. The Pistons will get torn to shreds down low if they don't add a strong defensive presence that can rebound. Villanueva isn't a great defender, Maxiell is undersized and I don't really count Kwame Brown as anything more than a body with six fouls to give. To me, I don't see how Gordon can possibly come off the bench, which makes Rip the obvious choice to go.

I am going to withhold any judgment on Kuester until he gets a chance to prove himself. Not fond of the decision, but Dumars should be held accountable more than the coaches from now on. Interesting summer so far to say the least for the Pistons.
 
 
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Posted 11 July 2009 - 09:31 AM

I'm starting to think Dumars has no accountability whatsoever.

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Posted 11 July 2009 - 11:26 AM

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I'm starting to think Dumars has no accountability whatsoever.


Mr. Davidson loved Joe Dumars. I think the lack of accountability stems from that.
 
 
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#24 mannysBETTER3434

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 12:03 AM

QUOTE (GoWings1905 @ July 11, 2009 - 10:26AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mr. Davidson loved Joe Dumars. I think the lack of accountability stems from that.


I agree. Also good thoughts on McDyess. I would still take Joe D over most GM's in the league though.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 01:12 PM

http://www.freep.com...harpe-to-Denver

Okay this move makes me scratch my head. Affalo and Sharpe for ONE 2nd round pick? I thought we were trying to be defensive? Affalo is one of the only Pistons left that fits this mold, plus he is young. He is that type of role player every team needs. I understand we are doing this to get a big man, but really who is out there?

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:09 PM

QUOTE (mannysBETTER3434 @ July 13, 2009 - 02:12PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.freep.com...harpe-to-Denver

Okay this move makes me scratch my head. Affalo and Sharpe for ONE 2nd round pick? I thought we were trying to be defensive? Affalo is one of the only Pistons left that fits this mold, plus he is young. He is that type of role player every team needs. I understand we are doing this to get a big man, but really who is out there?


Great point. I can't figure it out either. Afflalo never got a chance really and why did the Pistons waste a first round pick on Sharpe last season? I hope Kuester turns out to be that offensive genius because the Pistons are going to be pathetic on defense.

The only free agent big man I would even really care to sign now is Glen Davis. The problem is he is restricted and the Celtics can match any offer. I would still rather go after Tyson Chandler and dump Prince in the process. Might as well get rid of him too since nobody else on the roster can play defense now.
 
 
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#27 mannysBETTER3434

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:53 PM

QUOTE (GoWings1905 @ July 13, 2009 - 01:09PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great point. I can't figure it out either. Afflalo never got a chance really and why did the Pistons waste a first round pick on Sharpe last season? I hope Kuester turns out to be that offensive genius because the Pistons are going to be pathetic on defense.

The only free agent big man I would even really care to sign now is Glen Davis. The problem is he is restricted and the Celtics can match any offer. I would still rather go after Tyson Chandler and dump Prince in the process. Might as well get rid of him too since nobody else on the roster can play defense now.


I hate Davis, but I would take him. I don't know the Celtics cap situation, but I would assume they would match anything reasonable. I was just wondering if the Clippers are shopping big men. They have a million of them, and need to get Griffin PT so maybe that is an option.

Also take it for what it's worth...I'm not a twitter person, but I was reading on another board that CV's twitter said something like "Another big move coming!" after this trade occurred.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:56 PM

QUOTE (GoWings1905 @ July 13, 2009 - 03:09PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Great point. I can't figure it out either. Afflalo never got a chance really and why did the Pistons waste a first round pick on Sharpe last season? I hope Kuester turns out to be that offensive genius because the Pistons are going to be pathetic on defense.

The only free agent big man I would even really care to sign now is Glen Davis. The problem is he is restricted and the Celtics can match any offer. I would still rather go after Tyson Chandler and dump Prince in the process. Might as well get rid of him too since nobody else on the roster can play defense now.

Sharpe was a second-rounder. The Sonics (as they were at the time, anyway) drafted him for us, and we drafted D.J. White in the first round for them. Basically we got their two second-rounders for our first rounder. Not a bad deal, actually - if you can drop juuust out of the first round like that you do it, because there's no sense binding yourself to the guaranteed contract.
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Posted 13 July 2009 - 10:10 PM

QUOTE (betterREDthandead @ July 13, 2009 - 01:56PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sharpe was a second-rounder. The Sonics (as they were at the time, anyway) drafted him for us, and we drafted D.J. White in the first round for them. Basically we got their two second-rounders for our first rounder. Not a bad deal, actually - if you can drop juuust out of the first round like that you do it, because there's no sense binding yourself to the guaranteed contract.


I agree with you 9 outta 10 times on that point, but the DJ White trade bugged me. I have no clue how White is doing now, but he seemed like a Joe D type of player. He was blue collared, and played in college for 4 years dealing with TONS of diversity compared to the majority of other college players.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 06:14 AM

QUOTE (mannysBETTER3434 @ July 13, 2009 - 11:10PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree with you 9 outta 10 times on that point, but the DJ White trade bugged me. I have no clue how White is doing now, but he seemed like a Joe D type of player. He was blue collared, and played in college for 4 years dealing with TONS of diversity compared to the majority of other college players.

Yeah, I hate dealing with diversity, don't you? wink.gif

Anyway, White might be good eventually, but he only played seven games this year. If you can't crack the lineup of the OKC Thunder, whose lineup can you crack?
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Posted 14 July 2009 - 10:17 AM

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Yeah, I hate dealing with diversity, don't you? wink.gif

Anyway, White might be good eventually, but he only played seven games this year. If you can't crack the lineup of the OKC Thunder, whose lineup can you crack?


That is all true haha...

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 07:46 AM

What does everyone thing about a possible return of Ben Wallace to the Pistons?

They would sign him under vetern salary so his salary wouldnt go against the cap.

To me he is a shell of what he used to be. That being said if he can play and contribute off the bench..then I would sign him.

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 12:00 PM

QUOTE (timothy1997 @ July 15, 2009 - 06:46AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What does everyone thing about a possible return of Ben Wallace to the Pistons?

They would sign him under vetern salary so his salary wouldnt go against the cap.

To me he is a shell of what he used to be. That being said if he can play and contribute off the bench..then I would sign him.


No thanks...Ben Wallace makes Kwame Brown look like Dwight Howard. He hasn't done a thing since leaving Detroit. Like they say karma is a *****!

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Posted 15 July 2009 - 05:52 PM

QUOTE (timothy1997 @ July 15, 2009 - 08:46AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What does everyone thing about a possible return of Ben Wallace to the Pistons?

They would sign him under vetern salary so his salary wouldnt go against the cap.

To me he is a shell of what he used to be. That being said if he can play and contribute off the bench..then I would sign him.


i'll pass. i'd bring chris webber back if we're being sentimental here.

i expect joe to pursue a true center (not a great one) in the coming weeks, without a trade.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 08:12 AM

I totally did not realize the Pistons have Sean Singletary on the summer league roster. Can't believe I missed that. I'm giddy like a schoolgirl in the presence of 5,000 Jonas Brothers. I really really really really hope Singletary sticks with the Pistons for the season. All-time favorite UVA baller. The guy's got a million times the heart, hustle, desire, everything, of any NBAer out there. He's a Joe D type of guy for sure. All character.
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Posted 16 July 2009 - 09:58 PM

Hell no to Ben Wallace. I don't even think it's a legitimate rumor that the Pistons are interested. Wallace is done being an energetic defensive force in the NBA. I have my doubts with his knees being so bad that he could even be an effective role player off the bench. The Pistons are going to get destroyed inside this season. I have said it before but I think Tyson Chandler would help this team more than any other potential free agent/trade targets.

Summers and Daye look great in the summer league so far. I have to give Joe D. some real props already for the Summers pick - he is going to be a steal for a second rounder.
 
 
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Posted 17 July 2009 - 07:43 AM

QUOTE (spydrwebb @ July 15, 2009 - 06:52PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i'll pass. i'd bring chris webber back if we're being sentimental here.

i expect joe to pursue a true center (not a great one) in the coming weeks, without a trade.


Problem is there are no big men out there. Big Baby Davis is the only one that comes to mind for me.

I think they will go after Chandler or Boozer via trade.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 09:44 AM

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Problem is there are no big men out there. Big Baby Davis is the only one that comes to mind for me.

I think they will go after Chandler or Boozer via trade.


Yeah I agree. I'm starting to warm up the Boozer idea. I was never really a fan of it, because first of all he is kind of injury prone, and second we would have a really small lineup. On the other hand what is the downside? If Boozer gets hurt, or he just doesn't mesh with the team we can let him walk just like A.I. and get his 12 million dollar expiring contract.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 12:37 PM

QUOTE (mannysBETTER3434 @ July 13, 2009 - 01:12PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://www.freep.com...harpe-to-Denver

Okay this move makes me scratch my head. Affalo and Sharpe for ONE 2nd round pick? I thought we were trying to be defensive? Affalo is one of the only Pistons left that fits this mold, plus he is young. He is that type of role player every team needs. I understand we are doing this to get a big man, but really who is out there?

Arron Afflalo is gone? sad.gif Well that sucks, just like virtually every made Dumars has made for the past 4-5 years. Afflalo might never be a star but he plays with real intensity and a passion for the game, he's quick and is a VERY strong defender. This deal is a typical Dumars shocker. What is his obsession with stock piling rubbish draft picks that will only be served to draft more hacks? I'm fed up. thumbdown.gif

And Walter Sharpe, well that was the biggest waste of time in history. I remember everyone saying he was no good, and we drafted some guy who fell asleep and couldn't pass his subjects, something along those lines. And now we've gone and traded him. Hey Joe here's an idea, how about drafting players that are actually GOOD? Guys like Afflalo. Oh wait...

Edited by Aussie_Wing, 17 July 2009 - 12:39 PM.

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Posted 17 July 2009 - 12:46 PM

I can't believe I've only just found out that we freaking TRADED AMIR JOHNSON??????????

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At least he went to Milwaukee. Bogut and Johnson oh baby! thumbup.gif

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