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#101 mindfly

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 06:50 PM

Here's to 8th seed in the playoffs!

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 06:50 PM

Some tough Canadian boy who fights and is bigger than 6'2.

That description gives Holland a lot of leeway as to who to sign.
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Posted 08 July 2009 - 06:55 PM

QUOTE (mindfly @ July 8, 2009 - 07:50PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's to 8th seed in the playoffs!

If you already know then don't even watch.

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 07:04 PM

No to Moen, Grier, Kotalik, Sundin...

I'd be down for Afinogenov @ 1 year for $1 million.... low risk, potentially high reward if he finds that electricity back

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 08:14 PM

QUOTE (mindfly @ July 8, 2009 - 07:40PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What an awful offseason... it actually looks alot darker than people think, unfortunately...

And with the little capspace available and no quality FA's left...This is the first letdown from Mr.Holland.. I think he got caught off-guard by all this.. for real...


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My god, people ***** about everything here. What exactly did you think would happen? The Wings have hardly any capspace, they can't afford to waste it. Hudler is a damn fine player, but he's replaceable. Samuelsson amd Kopecky are garbage, and Conklin is a back-up goalie. The only loss that really stings is Hossa, and this team did win the cup without him.

If they throw money at fourth liner now, it will give you something more to ***** about when they can't make any moves at the trade deadline.


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Posted 08 July 2009 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (mindfly @ July 8, 2009 - 06:50PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's to 8th seed in the playoffs!

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#107 grimace1970

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 08:38 PM

This guy is a UFA in Boston. I say we totally pick him up.
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Posted 08 July 2009 - 09:00 PM

QUOTE (DaWingsin071 @ July 8, 2009 - 05:48PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My picks are Travis Moen and PJ Axelsson. Get both.


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Posted 08 July 2009 - 09:05 PM

QUOTE (grimace1970 @ July 8, 2009 - 09:38PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This guy is a UFA in Boston. I say we totally pick him up.
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I say pick him up for his name alone.
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Posted 08 July 2009 - 09:35 PM

Travis Moen


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Posted 08 July 2009 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (grimace1970 @ July 8, 2009 - 06:38PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This guy is a UFA in Boston. I say we totally pick him up.
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I thought this was a joke. Can't believe it's a real player.


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Posted 08 July 2009 - 09:38 PM

QUOTE (BuckeyeWingsfan80 @ July 8, 2009 - 06:07PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He had his chance last year to express interest and instead waited Detroit out while Detroit went elsewhere. That's a sign to me, at least, that he's not interested.



You mean other than what occurred his last year in Toronto? Or how about his constant flaming out in the playoffs?



No he'll want to center the line with Datsyuk and Franzen on it. He still wants to be "the guy" and will want to be paid like it.



Except he's not going to get 20-25 minutes a night in Detroit. That's the point.

Detroit doesn't need a WAYYYY past his prime Sundin taking up cap room and lineup space. There are other, younger, cheaper options.

Oh it's a "sign" then...Not actually "saying" he doesn't want to play in the Motor City?...Okay then.

Constant flaming out in the playoffs?...You mean since he never got to the Cup Finals he's "flamed out"?...From what I recall he's pretty much carried the Leafs on his back not only in the reg season, but thru the playoffs as well...I'm not Eva, but take a gander at TSN's player profile on Sundin...Scroll on down to the playoffs; IMO he's anything but a "flame out".

Sundin isn't gonna be in T.O. so he's gonna have to play whatever coach Babcock gives him, and will have to accept whatever Holland offers him - that is if he wants to be a Red Wing.

I'm under no illusion that Sundin will sign in Detroit; just that the Wings offer Sundin a chance at winning the Cup; something he's claimed he really would like to accomplish before he retires...Just like Hossa - it's a 1 year deal with no strings attached (although it'll only cost Holland what he would've paid Hudler).

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 10:16 PM

From what I've seen, ignoring the various cliques and groupies around here who just have to push certain players at all costs, I'd have to say Grier is probably one of the best bets. The guy is a grinder in the way that the old grinders used to be. He's got some scoring ability and plays hard. And, most importantly, he works really hard, game in, game out. And on the Wings, working hard gets you places and makes you a success.

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Posted 08 July 2009 - 10:54 PM

QUOTE (VM1138 @ July 8, 2009 - 10:16PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From what I've seen, ignoring the various cliques and groupies around here who just have to push certain players at all costs, I'd have to say Grier is probably one of the best bets. The guy is a grinder in the way that the old grinders used to be. He's got some scoring ability and plays hard. And, most importantly, he works really hard, game in, game out. And on the Wings, working hard gets you places and makes you a success.


Agree...

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 12:58 AM

Grier earned 1.775 million last season. I wouldn't be willing to pay him that, when you could give Blair Betts a raise on the 615k he earned last year, and get a younger and stronger guy who is very solid defensively. Oulahen for around 500k. Then we have room for trade deadline deals.

EDIT - As you can probably tell, I'm not concerned about getting scoring players, which we shouldn't need. It has been pointed out above, but I think that e.g. Filppula's and Cleary's returns to a scoring line etc. should help. If we're solid defensively and sort our PK out, we should be set. Oulahen is a very good defensive forward and Betts is solid (though I'm not sure about his injury situation after the Brashear hit). Oh and sorry, they're not 6'4 Western Canadian farmboys who like to fight. Never mind.

Edited by NGKEIB, 09 July 2009 - 01:00 AM.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 04:36 AM

call me crazy but id like to see the how the players would react to a reg season that is below DRW standards and by that i mean getting like a 3 or 4 seed i wanna see how they would play in the PO's when they arnt picked as a favorite


#117 Z Winged Dangler

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 08:26 AM

QUOTE (GoWings1905 @ July 8, 2009 - 11:51AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Red Wings really need a goal-scoring, top-six forward now. That isn't happening because most of the quality free agents are gone and the Red Wings have minimal cap space anyways. Losing Hudler is tough for me because it appears Holmstrom isn't capable of playing on the top two lines anymore. That leaves Z, Pavel, Mule, Fil and Cleary and someone else (Leino?) to fill out our scoring lines. Our scoring depth has taken a major hit this summer.

That being said, if Hudler does indeed leave, I want Travis Moen. Stick him on the third line with Helm and let them cause havoc on the ice. We aren't getting a sniper for two million dollars so we may as well become a tougher team to play against.


i have a feeling we're gonna see homer on the top line with dats and z, cause that's the only place he can produce.

the wings are gonna be fine. we're gonna see alot of helm and hopefully abdelkader, and maybe leino will crack the top 6 if he plays up to potential. the only way the wings are getting another good goal scorer or signing a guy like tanguay is if kronwall or stuart are traded away.

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Posted 09 July 2009 - 10:17 AM

Have you guys calling for Afinogenov ever heard of the KHL? This guy brought nothing to the Sabres except scoring, and he stopped doing that. He's worth $900k in the NHL, and probably about $2.5M tax free minus what he'll need to spend on his own difibulator in the KHL.

Kotalik is probably mulling over the overpayment offers that he has gotten from mediocre teams.

Does anyone remember the summer of 2006? We lost 54 goals with the loss of Shanahan and Yzerman (58 if you count Mowers... which is like counting Kopecky) and we added no one. We did fine the next year....

Some remaining options to consider and their salaries from last year:
PJ Axelsson (75-6-24-30) - $1.85M
Stephane Yelle (77-7-11-18) - $750K
Matt Ellis (45-7-5-12) - $475K
Dominic Moore (81-13-32-45) - $900K
Tom Kostopoulos (78-8-14-22) - $900K
Dean McAmmond (62-5-11-16) - $900K
Blair Betts (81-6-4-10) - $615K
Mike Comrie (63-10-17-27) - $4M
Petr Sykora (76-25-21-46) - $2.5M
Brad May (58-1-6-7) - $600K
Rob Niedermayer (79-14-7-21) - $2M
Manny Malhotra (77-11-24-35) - $1.5M
Michael Peca (71-4-18-22) - $1.315M
Brendan Morrison (81-16-15-31) - $2.75M
Scott Nichol (43-4-6-10) - $750K
Mike Grier (62-10-13-23) - $1.775M
Travis Moen (82-7-9-16) - $925K
Dan Hinote (51-1-4-5) - $1M
Taylor Pyatt (69-10-9-19) - $1.575M

It's pretty much down to these guys, minus a few unfavorable former Wings (Williams, Bertuzzi and Calder), possibly unafordables (Tanguay) and some guys that were in and out of the minors. There's also Mike Sillinger....

Of those listed I would be content with most, but most confortable with Moen, Peca, Grier, Betts, Niedermayer, Axelsson or Yelle in a Red Wings uniform next year.

Edited by DSM, 09 July 2009 - 10:29 AM.






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