Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Didn't see this posted yet. Basically, the KHL will wait to after Hudlers arbitration hearing on 7/31 before the register his contract, officially making him a member of Dynamo. If the Wings accept the arbritration, he's a Wing otherwise he becomes a free agent and the KHL will register his contract. Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 http://slapshot.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/...sion-on-hudler/ July 16, 2009, 11:33 am Medvedev Says K.H.L. Will Honor N.H.L. Decision on Hudler By Jeff Z. Klein Is peace breaking out between the K.H.L. and N.H.L.? In his first public statement on the international dispute over Detroit forward Jiřà Hudler, K.H.L. president Alexander Medvedev sounded a conciliatory note, saying on Thursday that the Russian league would wait for an N.H.L. arbitrator’s decision on Hudler’s status with the Red Wings before registering the contract the player signed with Dinamo Moscow. Medvedev made the remarks in Zurich after a meeting with I.I.H.F. president René Fasel, telling the Russian daily Sport-Express that the K.H.L. “will not register Hudler’s contract, pending the outcome of the N.H.L. arbitration.†Medvedev, citing the good will generated by the Atlanta Thrashers’ decision to withdraw an offer from Joel Kwiatkowski because the defenseman already had signed with SKA St. Petersburg, vowed Thursday to work with the I.I.H.F. to uphold the “gentlemen’s agreement†between the two leagues not to poach players. That vow, he said, included awaiting the N.H.L. arbitrator’s decision on Hudler’s Detroit contract. Hudler took the Red Wings to salary arbitration late last month, then signed a two-year deal with Dinamo on July 8. The N.H.L. argues that by taking the Wings to arbitration, Hudler chose to stay with Detroit should the arbitrator find in the Wings’ favor or should the Wings agree to pay what Hudler asks. The I.I.H.F. agreed to the N.H.L.’s request not to issue a transfer card to Hudler, effectively preventing him from playing for Dinamo. Hudler’s arbitration hearing is scheduled for July 31. Should the arbitrator rule for the Red Wings’ bid, believed to be for $3 million a year, Medvedev’s statement indicates that the K.H.L. would honor the decision and not register Hudler’s Dinamo contract. But if the arbitrator rules for Hudler’s bid, believed to be for $4 million a year, the Red Wings would have to choose between paying Hudler that amount or letting him go. That, presumably, would open the way for the K.H.L. to register the Dinamo contract and allow Hudler to join the old Interior Ministry club. Hudler made $1.15 million last season with Detroit and turned down a multiple-year offer that would have paid him $3 million annually. After filing for arbitration, he accepted a $2 million-a-year offer from Dinamo that is reckoned to be worth $5 million per season in North American terms after factoring in tax breaks and benefits. Medvedev also said he hopes for a fair outcome to what may be a similar situation with Evgeny Dadonov, a Florida Panthers prospect assigned to A.H.L. Rochester, but who reportedly signed an earlier two-year deal with Traktor Chelyabinsk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Damn. You beat me to it by like a few seconds. Sorry mods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Here's to hoping arbitration awards Hudler $4 million+ and he's gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 considering that the arbitrator is probably going to award him at least 3 mil a year and that we don't have that without making at least one major trade... I'd almost rather let him walk by this point... the only way I see paying him, is if Lilja is going to get LTIR'd, in which case, the cap space is there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 "BE FREE!" If he wants to be in Russia, I wouldn't want to kep him here. Let him go and lets move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankanator 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Sign him to whatever he is offered. There is absolutely no reason the Wings should just let him "Walk away". They could still trade his rights and plenty of teams would be willing to sit out in a Russia two seasons. Trading him for a draft pick is better than nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ProfessorLidstrom5 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Sign him to whatever he is offered. There is absolutely no reason the Wings should just let him "Walk away". They could still trade his rights and plenty of teams would be willing to sit out in a Russia two seasons. Trading him for a draft pick is better than nothing. ^ This!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 He can't be gone quicker. The only thing I hope is that when/if Hudler returns, it won't be with the wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 let him go, he can make more money elsewhere and there are no hard feelings. let him do his own thing in the KHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Sign him to whatever he is offered. There is absolutely no reason the Wings should just let him "Walk away". They could still trade his rights and plenty of teams would be willing to sit out in a Russia two seasons. Trading him for a draft pick is better than nothing. Can they still even trade him now that he's in arbitration? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings1110 184 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 trade his rights let him go through arbitration with another nhl team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 (edited) let him go, he can make more money elsewhere and there are no hard feelings. let him do his own thing in the KHL. No hard feelings? Because of this stupid scam Hudler is trying to pull, it ties Holland's hands and he can't do ANYTHING. Holland said it himself. If we can trade him I'm all for it. Edited July 16, 2009 by Z and D for the C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Why should we want a player who obviously doesn't want to play for the Wings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozzie30 170 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>&"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankanator 0 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Can they still even trade him now that he's in arbitration? I guess saying his "rights" was wrong, they would be trading Hudler. The return could be decent too, since the KHL refuses to sign him if hes signed to an NHL contract. Sign him for $3.5-$4 million, going over the cap at this point is fine and then trade him. He can't use the "Im going to Russia" card now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 No hard feelings? Because of this stupid scam Hudler is trying to pull, it ties Holland's hands and he can't do ANYTHING. Holland said it himself. If we can trade him I'm all for it. I don't blame him for leaving for much more money. I do wish the wings could get some kind of compensation. But at the end of the day, I'd just prefer to get passed it as soon as possible, so Hudler can go and get his money and we can have the roster and cap space that will be left with his departure. I don't think he is exactly to blame for any kind of "stupid scam", there is just too much red tape to do anything between the KHL and NHL. This isn't a Fedorov hold out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Why would a team, any team give up something of any value for the right to pay Hudler $4 million, even though he'd rather be in Russia? That's rather nonsensical. It's a nice idea in thought, but in reality, it'd be hard to find anyone to take him off your hands for THAT money, with THAT baggage attached to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Sign him to whatever he is offered. There is absolutely no reason the Wings should just let him "Walk away". They could still trade his rights and plenty of teams would be willing to sit out in a Russia two seasons. Trading him for a draft pick is better than nothing. Sign him to whatever he is offered? We only have $1.8M left, $3.0M if Lilja is LTIR'd! BTW, Arbitration rules say you cannot trade an awarded player for at least a year after his contract is signed. So, NO, this is not a good idea. If he is awarded anyting NEAR $3.0M or more (which he is worth on the market) then let him go to the KHL, he could still be Wings property in two years... Hudler (Svboda) handcuffed Holland by doing this, he should have just accepted the 5 year 15M contract. (which was still too much for our cap space situation, but at least Holland tried.) Best choice now is to let Hudler get his award, let him go to the KHL and "Get Better." Don't know how much better he will get over there, but maybe he will like it too much and stay aw well! He has said the only NHL team he wants to play for is Detroit, so maybe when he is done getting rich, he'll come back here and be a team player again... (I hope not) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pavyaz19 1 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 The guy would rather have more money (a lot more) and a bigger responsibility on a team... I don't hate him for it. I hope he stays. Are all you Fedorov lovers against Hudler now? I sure hope not. Hypocrites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Does anyone know exactly how this would work? If Hudler goes through the arbitration process and the Wings sign him he can still go to Russia? If the Wings choose not to sign him after arbitration wouldn't he then theoretically become a UFA? How will it work so that Hudler can still go to Russia but then after his two years if he returns to the NHL be the Red Wings property? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Detroit needs to get something out of this. They can't let another guy go without any return. Whether it's just picks/prospects or legitimate NHLers doesn't matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,961 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 The guy would rather have more money (a lot more) and a bigger responsibility on a team... I don't hate him for it. I hope he stays. Are all you Fedorov lovers against Hudler now? I sure hope not. Hypocrites. Fedorov didn't leave for MORE money... Hudler deserves more money and he doesn't want to be on the 3rd line. But he doesn't want to play for any other NHL team than Detroit. BTW, he voted for the war and then changed his mind later and voted against it! This guy just wants his payday. He is a me first player, not a team player. But I do not blame him for wanting a pay day. If someone offered me a 30% (or more) pay raise, I'd leave my current job too!!! (on the contrary, my job STOLE 20% from me!!! (then gave themselves bonuses!)) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 If no one was going to give him an offer sheet, what makes anyone want to touch him now! Hudler will be in Det or KHL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted July 16, 2009 Losing Hudler to the KHL is different than losing Hossa, Samuelsson and Kopecky to other NHL teams. Although we get no return we still own his rights if he decides to come back. I know we don't get anything in return today but it's still a little bit different. Although I do see what you're getting at by losing a roster player today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
