for replace hudler ...

[Drake_Marcus 890]

I didnt expect him to put up that many points thats the thing. We're looking for someone who plays 10 minutes a game, why not sign a guy like Bertuzzi who since leaving the wings has done alright the last couple seasons putting up around 40 points and still can hit and stick up for himself. Sure you lose 20 points or so but Bertuzzi has been getting healthy again so who knows what he could do, he isnt just some tough thug that cant play

My only problem with Bert is his tendency to take dumb penalties. If he'd learn not to take those terrible slashing, tripping and roughing penalties at the worst possible time he'd be a much more valuable commodity.

I'm with you on adding an abrasive, heart and soul kind of guy. He doesn't even have to have tons of scoring upside. In my opinion the Wings need to find two players: one PK specialist who can hit and take care of himself (and make the Wings tougher to play against... think a younger Drake) and one top 6 winger (or project player with top 6 potential and PK/grit as his current specialty).

With that in mind, here are the guys I'd like the Wings to take a run at:

1. Pyett

2. Eaves (only if he comes cheap, he's a project not a top 6 player right now)

3. Malhotra

4. Grier

and if they're real desperate:

5. Peca (I see him as someone who could be another Dallas Drake-- frighteningly disappointing in the regular season but a fantastic element in the post season if he stays hungry and healthy enough)

[e_prime 1,936]

sorry for the bad grammar guys .... i am from quebec city ,canada but i am a fan of the red wings since 20 years . i try to talk with you but im speak french and i don't have a perfect english ....

Just messin' around, dude.

[uk_redwing 495]

Taylor Pyatt.

[newfy 695]

My only problem with Bert is his tendency to take dumb penalties. If he'd learn not to take those terrible slashing, tripping and roughing penalties at the worst possible time he'd be a much more valuable commodity.

I'm with you on adding an abrasive, heart and soul kind of guy. He doesn't even have to have tons of scoring upside. In my opinion the Wings need to find two players: one PK specialist who can hit and take care of himself (and make the Wings tougher to play against... think a younger Drake) and one top 6 winger (or project player with top 6 potential and PK/grit as his current specialty).

With that in mind, here are the guys I'd like the Wings to take a run at:

1. Pyett

2. Eaves (only if he comes cheap, he's a project not a top 6 player right now)

3. Malhotra

4. Grier

and if they're real desperate:

5. Peca (I see him as someone who could be another Dallas Drake-- frighteningly disappointing in the regular season but a fantastic element in the post season if he stays hungry and healthy enough)

Pyatt is kind of both of those guys. He could be a top 6 forward possibly. He's a big body, doesn't fight alot but when he does he can go and he can hit. If we could add Pyatt and he plays well it would be a great signing and exactly what the wings need.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Pyatt is kind of both of those guys. He could be a top 6 forward possibly. He's a big body, doesn't fight alot but when he does he can go and he can hit. If we could add Pyatt and he plays well it would be a great signing and exactly what the wings need.

Well that means he's perfect. Have you heard any rumours about Pyatt having interest from other teams?

Right now we just need him to be available until Thursday/Friday.

[AD2044 0]

yeah lets not say that eaves has the potential to produce as many points as hudler just because he hasn't done it yet. i mean come on if you haven't hit your full potential by 25 then you must be done. oh wait he did score 20 goals once already. we won't count that though right Marcus Drake. and yeah i said sign grier and pyatt for 2 million dollars combined and if they won't take a milion a piece then we don't sign them. that statement only sounds retarted to a brain moron like you.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

yeah lets not say that eaves has the potential to produce as many points as hudler just because he hasn't done it yet. i mean come on if you haven't hit your full potential by 25 then you must be done. oh wait he did score 20 goals once already. we won't count that though right Marcus Drake. and yeah i said sign grier and pyatt for 2 million dollars combined and if they won't take a milion a piece then we don't sign them. that statement only sounds retarted to a brain moron like you.

First- uuhhh thanks champ, but conventional logic says that Hudler is as likely to increase his point totals as Eaves is. Hudler's already hit 23 g 57pts so he's far ahead of Eaves in this race. Oh, and every year Hudler gets better. Not the case for Eaves. Nice try though.

And that 2 million dollar estimate? Know why it sounds retarded? Because it is. Every team in the league would sign either of those guys at 1 million, why the f*** would we get them both for 2 million combined? That's just plain retarded. And what the f*** is a brain moron? Is that the mental equivalent of a body cripple?

[Herr Hockey 0]

I immediately thought of "Borat: Cultural learnings of America for make benefit glorious nation of Kazakhstan." Seriously though, don't worry about the English. I wish I had even the slightest knowledge of a second language.

I'm just not sure what to think of the whole Hudler situation anymore. Jimmy D said they would look to free agency to replace some of the 88 goals. I think some of you are dismissing Bertuzzi a little too easily. I remember last year Holland spoke of possibly "Bringing back an old friend" just prior to signing Hossa. I don't think he meant Shanahan, and considering inner management voted down trading for Fedorov at the 08 deadline, I don't think it was him either. Sure, Bertuzzi was only a Wing for a few months, but I can't imagine who else that "old friend" could have been. He does have his downfalls, like bad penalties, but after losing 88 goals, Kenny and Co. are going to have to take what they can get at this point. I would also be supportive of getting Eaves now that he might become available.

[AD2044 0]

Hudler won't get much better then 60 points a year man. plus he only plays one way whereas eaves plays both ways. i would take eaves 20 goals and PK ability right now over hudlers 60 points and one way play. the way i see it the more quality two way players we have on this team the more it frees up hank and pav to just play 5 on 5 and PP thus resulting in them producing more points and staying fresher come playoff time. This is why i like the idea of signing eaves, pyatt and grier so guys like hank, pav and franzen don't have to waste energy on the PK. As to your points about Pyatt and Grier making more than 1 million per a year. they are both coming off their worst seasons as pros and they only made around 1.5 million a piece so i do not think it is much of a stretch to think that they would come here and play for a million a season. your dumbass is making it sound like i am saying that they are gonna take a couple of million less a piece to play here. if i was grier i would for sure take 500K less then i made last year to play for my hometown team.

Edited July 27, 2009 by AD2044

[Drake_Marcus 890]

As to your points about Pyatt and Grier making more than 1 million per a year. they are both coming off their worst seasons as pros and they only made around 1.5 million a piece so i do not think it is much of a stretch to think that they would come here and play for a million a season. your dumbass is making it sound like i am saying that they are gonna take a couple of million less a piece to play here. if i was grier i would for sure take 500K less then i made last year to play for my hometown team.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

I dont want anything to do with Pyatt honestly. If it was the Pyatt from Buffalo that wasnt well known, big and actually played hard, sure I'd love it. If it's the lazy floater who didnt play very physical most of the year, and now has the baggage of losing his fiancee (god rest her soul). It could be one of those low risk, high reward things, so I'm sure Kenny will be interested, but he'd have to buy in like Cleary, and if he does, then I'd certainly be interested in what he could do.

As far as guys I'd be interested in, the longer Peca stays out there, the more he seems like the perfect Drake replacement, with more offensive upside (Not by much, only 4 goals last year, but 22 points on dirty ole' Columbus isnt that bad.)

[Zion 93]

Eaves and Grier, in that order.

The other suggestions are just flat out AWFUL. Seriously? 4th and 5th? You put Afinogenov and Bertuzzi that high? Wow...

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Hudler won't get much better then 60 points a year man. plus he only plays one way whereas eaves plays both ways. i would take eaves 20 goals and PK ability right now over hudlers 60 points and one way play.

I dont like Hudler either, but your making Patrick Eaves out to be some hero, when really he's garbage. Did anyone watch him the past 3 seasons? You probably didnt, he's injury prone. He finally played a full season this year, 6 goals, 14 points in 74 games. 20 goals once as a top 6 forward getting shifts with Spezza and Fisher most of the time. He isnt a good PKer, he has played it in the past, but for the Sens and Canes? Could you name more then 1-2 good defensive players on either team? Eaves is not a great option, I'd take him because he's Canadian, but not much else is attractive about Patrick Eaves.

[spydrwebb 0]

Thats some bad title grammar.

[skacore 2]

I dont like Hudler either, but your making Patrick Eaves out to be some hero, when really he's garbage. Did anyone watch him the past 3 seasons? You probably didnt, he's injury prone. He finally played a full season this year, 6 goals, 14 points in 74 games. 20 goals once as a top 6 forward getting shifts with Spezza and Fisher most of the time. He isnt a good PKer, he has played it in the past, but for the Sens and Canes? Could you name more then 1-2 good defensive players on either team? Eaves is not a great option, I'd take him because he's Canadian, but not much else is attractive about Patrick Eaves.

he's not even Canadian

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

he's not even Canadian

NHL.com said he was born in Calgary?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=84706...id=nhl-keymatch

[AD2044 0]

I dont like Hudler either, but your making Patrick Eaves out to be some hero, when really he's garbage. Did anyone watch him the past 3 seasons? You probably didnt, he's injury prone. He finally played a full season this year, 6 goals, 14 points in 74 games. 20 goals once as a top 6 forward getting shifts with Spezza and Fisher most of the time. He isnt a good PKer, he has played it in the past, but for the Sens and Canes? Could you name more then 1-2 good defensive players on either team? Eaves is not a great option, I'd take him because he's Canadian, but not much else is attractive about Patrick Eaves.

my point with eaves is that he has the potential to be a top 6 forward and i think he is worth taking a chance on for a year. if he keeps playing like he has than we let him walk and if he develops then we sign him long term. to me it is a no lose situation.

[Motown4013 350]

We need POINTS...We do not a "project", a fourth line centre, a guy with some potential or a goon. I don't want any of these guys. Perhaps on the team we had LAST year, Id be into Malhotra but we need a Kessel or a Tanguay. We lost three guys who put up a ton of points- Hossa (71), Hudler (57) and Sammy (40) and nobody on that list has been proven capable to do that....even if they are playing next to Flip and Mule.

Get rid of lils and free up his 1.3, use the 3 mill we were gonna pay for Huds and sign Tanguay to a 2 yr deal.

Eaves?? Really guys?? Has it come to this???

[Motown4013 350]

my point with eaves is that he has the potential to be a top 6 forward and i think he is worth taking a chance on for a year. if he keeps playing like he has than we let him walk and if he develops then we sign him long term. to me it is a no lose situation.

YES!!! Thats always the Wings M.O- Sign a guy that has done nothing but has some potential. Great idea. We have 1/2 of our roster competing to play on the 3rd or 4th line Perfect

[weGotTheCup89 41]

Nobody here has suggested we acquire Mike Comrie, so I will.

[LeftWinger 4,953]

re-sign Oulahen & McGrath. Oops! Sign Malhortra and or Peca (if you could get them both for around $2M, in which you cannot, so one or the other.) Let the "KIDS" play with Draper and put the UFa on the third line. We're set.

Leino - Helm - Malhortra (Peca)

McGrath - Draper - Oulahen

(Maltby rotating with the kids.)

[MadMan Mark 0]

my choices are Malhotra and Grier. . .

[sputman 1,268]

Nobody here has suggested we acquire Mike Comrie, so I will.

i thought i read a couple of times before that comrie is a d-bag in the dressing room.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

I'm not sure it's fair to describe the things at the ends of that guy's arms as hands.

[55fan 5,133]

I'm not sure it's fair to describe the things at the ends of that guy's arms as hands.

Not to mention that agent jenkins has horrible capitalization and punctuation skills...and there seems to be a very large sperm cell swimming towards him.

As far as replacing Hudler goes, I don't think we really will replace him. We won't replace his points, so we'll just have to settle for getting someone who can defend well enough to prevent an equal number of points to what he would have scored. Or something like that.