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#41 LeftWinger

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE (Slabby @ July 28, 2009 - 03:32PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. This is insulting. We want Mike Grier the player, not just Mike Grier the black man.

OH NO! According to some folks on here, signing Mike Grier wouldbe a great story in the city and generate newer and blacker fans!

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (Slabby @ July 28, 2009 - 03:32PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Exactly. This is insulting. We want Mike Grier the player, not just Mike Grier the black man.


As Mike Grier's illegitimate son, I have to respectfully disagree with you.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 06:00 PM

This is rediculus. Some people want him here for the lone fact that he is black. Who cares?
My vote still goes out to Malhotra, but I would not be upset if Grier signed.

Also, do you think that it will bring new fans to the Red Wings? No.
If the pistons were an all black basketball team, and acquired a white player do you think more white kids would suddenly like them? No, you either like the SPORT or you do not.
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#44 titanium2

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 06:27 PM

I LOVE BLACK PEOPLLLLLLLLLLLE!

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 06:30 PM

QUOTE (Shoreline @ July 28, 2009 - 03:33PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The lack of interest in hockey from blacks is also noticeable. Still, other teams will have black players as their face. And they should. It's great to see different people from different backgrounds winning. We pay attention to the fact that Lids was the first European captain to win a cup. I'm sure attention will be paid to the first black captain to win a cup, assuming one hasn't done so already. Such disparities deserve looking at, but with a grain of salt and dose of reasonableness.

I don't disagree that Grier would bring diversity as far as race is concerned, but not as far as talent is concerned, which should be the focus here as a priority rather than his race. The Wings do not need Grier and I don't see what gaps he would fill that aren't already full. The Wings had a major dip in scoring talent and Grier isn't a way to make up for it.


They also lost their 4th line grinder typr in Kopy. Who is going to fill that void? Helm? I'd rather see him on the 3rd line. Greir is the perfect fit for Kopy's spot. Leino and Helm and 1 other guy have to pick up the goals.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 07:25 PM

would love to see him in the hand shake line for the combo breaker

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE (Lidstromboli @ July 28, 2009 - 08:25PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
would love to see him in the hand shake line for the combo breaker


I lol'd laugh.gif

Just like the poster of all the president's with Barrack Obama at the end.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 09:06 PM

if every race is one in the same, and were all equal, then what ever race is or isn't on the team shouldn't matter in the first place. i swear to god if affirmative action takes place in hockey i will kill who ever starts it myself.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 09:11 PM

wtf? I thought Chelios was black??

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 11:35 PM

Who cares? You sign players because of how they play; not their skin color. Having black players for the sake of having black players is stupid.

Edited by Wings_Toledo, 28 July 2009 - 11:35 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2009 - 11:40 PM

QUOTE (F.Michael @ July 28, 2009 - 03:18PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But only if we can also get Laraque, and Grier afro.gif


Don't forget Joel Ward (NSH), Wade Simmonds (LA), and Dustin Byfuglein (CHI)

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 11:42 PM

QUOTE (Drake_Marcus @ July 28, 2009 - 02:00PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Clearly the NHL should force the Flames to trade Iginla to the Wings.

But only for the sake of diversity. sly.gif

Seriously. In the words of a Bostonian- how wicked sweet would that be?

or s***, wings could sign obama and he could double as the team doctor!...sorry man all those politics from everybody yesterday are now spewing from my fingies! okay i will stop!

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 11:47 PM

QUOTE (skacore @ July 28, 2009 - 10:11PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wtf? I thought Chelios was black??


He's Greek decent

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 11:56 PM

Why is everybody freaking out? I think 99% of the people that posted here agree that race doesn't/shouldn't matter in hockey.

And on the topic of lack of black interest in hockey:

I agree that the high cost is part of it. I also think it has to do with the fact that a large portion of our country's black people live in the south where there already isn't much interest in hockey (contrary to popular belief).

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:01 AM

True equality is when a person is judged for his/her abilities, not for their race, religion, or ethnic origin. Furthermore, the job of GMs is to provide a team with players who can help them win, not to make statements about social situations. Mike Grier the player, should be considered IRRESPECTIVE of his skin color, and nothing else.

Also, Abdelkader is obviously an Arabic name. Is Justin Abdelkader the first player in the NHL of Arabic origin?

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:08 AM

Ramzi Abid dropped by to say hello.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE (Stu in Israel @ July 29, 2009 - 12:01AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
True equality is when a person is judged for his/her abilities, not for their race, religion, or ethnic origin. Furthermore, the job of GMs is to provide a team with players who can help them win, not to make statements about social situations. Mike Grier the player, should be considered IRRESPECTIVE of his skin color, and nothing else.

Also, Abdelkader is obviously an Arabic name. Is Justin Abdelkader the first player in the NHL of Arabic origin?


Thanks to Stillwater for providing the name Ramzi Abid.

In addition to what I wrote above, the Red Wings gave a fair chance to Nathan Robinson in 2002, but evidently felt he wasn't good enough. Robinson may be palying hockey in Germany now.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:47 AM

QUOTE (Stu in Israel @ July 29, 2009 - 12:44AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks to Stillwater for providing the name Ramzi Abid.

In addition to what I wrote above, the Red Wings gave a fair chance to Nathan Robinson in 2002, but evidently felt he wasn't good enough. Robinson may be palying hockey in Germany now.


Message to myself and others: Always Preview post before posting; Robinson may be playing hockey in Germany now.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:52 AM

Well, I could be wrong, but I believe diversity is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:53 AM

Didn't the Wings also cut Joel Ward?

I wonder if they'd like to have him back now considering his progress. Right handed shot too.

...Searching... Yes, they did in fact: http://www.hockeysfu...ite_game_recap/





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