BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted August 19, 2009 They are obviously intending on giving it to Thornton. Maybe their goal is to let Big Joe have a different role/mindset when going into the playoffs. A more responsible one. I would give it to Blake, but Thornton looks like the next realistic candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted August 19, 2009 I think it goes to Boyle. It's not a surprise Marleau was stripped. Really, Im surprised it took this long. SJ needs to make some changes and this should only be the first of more to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted August 19, 2009 They're just waiting for Luke Schenn to develop into the role. Hanta yo! No, wait, those are Ron Wilson's other crappy teams. NVRMND. I kept waiting and waiting for the promised shake-up to happen in San Jose and it really never happened at all. Doug Wilson is in a very good position to deal for talent (Heatley? Kessel?) but they either don't want to give up the players who shat the bed in the playoffs (Nabokov, Marleau, Michalek) or they're in no hurry to change the chemistry on that team. I guess losing out in the first or second round every year must be good enough for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 Earlier in the summer it definitely seemed that way. But now? Why would you strip a player you're trying to sell to someone else of their captaincy? That hardly helps you sell them. If there was an expectation that he'd be traded this off-season then surely they wouldn't hurt his value by saying he's not a good enough leader. With all due respect IMO I think your logic on this is flawed. Stripping someone of their captaincy couldn't hurt said player's trade value any more than wanting to trade him would. A GM hearing an offer from Doug Wilson that includes Marleau would know losing his captaincy was a result of wanting to trade him so the question would be, why he wants to trade him not why he lost the C. From my POV, it seems Wilson is making a big push for Heatley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 Give the C to Claude!!!! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 From my POV, it seems Wilson is making a big push for Heatley. Cause that's what a team needs with motivational issues. A locker room cancer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 Cause that's what a team needs with motivational issues. A locker room cancer. Whether you agree with the move or not is of no consequence - it's been well-documented that the Sharks are after Dany Heatley. Seems to me maybe they've decided they're willing to trade Marleau for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 Whether you agree with the move or not is of no consequence - it's been well-documented that the Sharks are after Dany Heatley. Seems to me maybe they've decided they're willing to trade Marleau for him. I didn't say that to disprove your point, I was saying it to point out that is a stupid idea of Wilsons. But considering it is the Sharks, making a move for him wouldn't surprise me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 I didn't say that to disprove your point, I was saying it to point out that is a stupid idea of Wilsons. But considering it is the Sharks, making a move for him wouldn't surprise me. It just seems very likely now. On TSN today they were talking about how it seems almost written on the wall that Wilson is ready to trade him. For me, it's hard to disagree. What makes you say Heatley's a cancer though? I don't think he's got the heart of Yzerman but "cancer" seems a little harsh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 It just seems very likely now. On TSN today they were talking about how it seems almost written on the wall that Wilson is ready to trade him. For me, it's hard to disagree. What makes you say Heatley's a cancer though? I don't think he's got the heart of Yzerman but "cancer" seems a little harsh. Just from the way he has been acting in Ottawa makes me feel like his motivation is only if the cards are laid out perfectly. Not a guy I would pick to handle adversity well at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 Just from the way he has been acting in Ottawa makes me feel like his motivation is only if the cards are laid out perfectly. Not a guy I would pick to handle adversity well at all. Agreed though I wouldn't describe his impact as a cancer. I would consider the actions of former teammate Ray Emery, as "cancerous". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lidstrom for Norris 0 Report post Posted August 20, 2009 After SJ's first round departure to Anaheim, GM Doug Wilson made a statement saying that there was going to be some major changes in the organization before next season. This is his first punch at following through with that statement. I think this is a smart move, and im suprised Marleau wasn't stripped of the captaincy a couple years back. My first pick is Dan Boyle with Thornton and Blake also in the discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jpd88 0 Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Dont know if this thread was already posted but I just read that Patrick Marleau's captaincy was taken away by the San Jose brass. "As for Marleau, his name continues to be linked to a potential trade with Ottawa for disgruntled winger Dany Heatley and, as of now, has been removed as captain of the Sharks. On the eve of Canada camp, San Jose coach Todd McLellan told reporters in San Jose the team no longer has a captain or assistant captains, and GM Doug Wilson told ESPN.com on Wednesday those leadership positions will be reevaluated at training camp." ESPN.com, Scott Burnside Does anyone think this means that him and Heatley are going to get swapped? Personally I think its a fair trade because both players have flopped for their teams (excluding Heatley's performance in the 2007 playoffs) in pressure situations and a change of scenery would help both. Also, the Sharks cleared up cap room by trading Ehrhoff and Lukowich to the Canucks. What do people think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Sorry, but this happened ages ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted August 29, 2009 Pavelski to Detroit for Lebda and Williams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Isn't Rob Blake still on their roster? If so, he'd be the perfect choice, being the senior statesman and a former captain himself. From TSN : The San Jose Sharks announced that Rob Blake will be the team's captain this season, with Joe Thornton and Dan Boyle as the alternates. ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Good choice. If Marleau was going to stay with the team, it was all but certain after this last disappointing playoff loss for that organization and fans that he'd lose his captaincy. Rob Blake has been there before and hopefully he can help the Sharks out. Good move by Todd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 Marleau should have been given one of the A's. He's effectively being scapegoated for the team's playoff failures. Regardless, I say an important thing when I say: You don't need a title to be a leader. This goes for those who blame Marleau for the Sharks' playoff failures. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAredwingsfan91 28 Report post Posted September 30, 2009 damn i feel bad for marleu obviously when you wear the C your gonna take a lot of heat but give the guy a break already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2009 Man I swear I thought Boyle would get it. How many years does Blake even have left? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robb himself 143 Report post Posted October 1, 2009 I agree! I think Boyle should have been the choice for team Captain...with Thornton and Marleau as Alternates I think making Blake captain is a mistake because he only signed a 1 year contract and might only have 1 or 2 left in him and then the sharks will have to name a new captain anyway... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted October 1, 2009 I agree! I think Boyle should have been the choice for team Captain...with Thornton and Marleau as Alternates I think making Blake captain is a mistake because he only signed a 1 year contract and might only have 1 or 2 left in him and then the sharks will have to name a new captain anyway... Honestly I don't think the Sharks are looking for someone by themselves to lead the team. Just someone to wear the C as a formality and have the veteran guys carry the leadership role. That means you Joe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soultrain 43 Report post Posted October 1, 2009 in my mind patty is a disappointment. sharks thought he was the next yzerman...i thought he was a marty lapointe minus the character. i didn't see to much heart out of patty at all. i saw some blood come out his nose during a playoff series a few years back, but i didn't see the heart that other sharks fans saw. he sucks. f*** em...hope blake can yell loud...i love the sharks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted October 1, 2009 Marleau should have been given one of the A's. He's effectively being scapegoated for the team's playoff failures. Regardless, I say an important thing when I say: You don't need a title to be a leader. This goes for those who blame Marleau for the Sharks' playoff failures. Bolded AND underlined? You must mean business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
