hokeychik22 17 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 i've always like jiggy. i'd take him in a heartbeat.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 We should try to move a few players to clear up some space to bring him in to he honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 First of all, hell no to him. Don't want him. Second, son, you should be damned glad you have a job at all. I can bet you there are a lot of goalies who'd give their catching glove to have a position on an NHL team - hell, any team. Be grateful for what you have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Not gonna lie, at the same price tag, I'd rather have Giguere than Rafalski. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Second, son, you should be damned glad you have a job at all. I can bet you there are a lot of goalies who'd give their catching glove to have a position on an NHL team - hell, any team. Be grateful for what you have. How many of those goalies have a Conn Smythe? I mean, he definitely shouldn't have came out in public with this, especially how with how much the organization has done a lot for him the past couple years, but Giggy at least was a damn good goalie, and is still fairly young I can understand his frusteration of not playing, hell there would be something wrong if he said yeah I love being a back up. He is a competitive, that's a good sign I suppose... That said, no thanks for him with the Wing's way too big of a contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Rafalski for Giguere? I doubt that he's that much better than Osgood, especially since Ozzie's been in Conn Smythe condition for the last two post-seasons. I think Red Wings need more their 60-point defenseman than a goalie which isn't that much better than what the team already have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 We should try to move a few players to clear up some space to bring him in to he honest. A worse GM than Holland might panic and do just that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Giguere needs to prove his worth. If he plays well enough to knock Hiller to the back-up position than you can't tell me that the Ducks are going to use a good goalie. On the other hand if Anaheim is just set on having Hiller as the starter than Giggy should get out of there. I mean he did lead the Ducks to Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals in 03 and did win the Conn Smythe Trophy when his team didn't even win the Cup. He also helped lead the team to their first ever Stanley Cup Championship in 07. Giguere deserves to play he is a great goalie even if it means not playing in Anaheim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Giguere has been going about this pretty well with regard to attitude until now; he hasn't complained or shown any signs that he was unhappy being the backup. This is a completely new thing. Also, while Quebecois players do often act like prima-donnas with regards to playing time, it's not as if they are the only players doing so or even as if they do so an unusually high percentage of the time. People often suggest that everyone but English-Canadians are prima-donnas and selfish in this manner. Doesn't anyone remember guys like Dany Heatley, Eric Lindros, Mark Messier, Chris Pronger, Wayne Gretzky, Paul Kariya, Joe Thornton? It's not a matter of ethnicity or culture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-TownWing 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 While I'm not the most knowledgable person when it comes to Giguere, but my impression is that he's been on a slight decline these past 3 to 4 years...Not sure if he's worth the $6 large on our payroll, nor what it would take to get him (read Rafalski, or Kronwall). That's pretty much how I see it too. This ain't 2003, kids. Or even 2007. I mean, sure, he was an elite goalie as recently as two years ago, but you just can't ignore it when a 32-year-old has what looks to be back-to-back crappy seasons. Even forgetting about the "dressing Meech/Lebda" issue, NTCs, etc., I wouldn't trade him straight up for Rafalski right now. And I'm not exactly the biggest Rafalski fan in the world either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Vlad Forever 1 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 sweet, let's trade washed up goalie A for expensive washed up goalie B Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 sweet, let's trade washed up goalie A for expensive washed up goalie B We would 1st need to move some players... I say move Franzen and Fil... They are not doing us any good at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowknife Redwing 57 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) If Anaheim buys him out (which surely they'd have to given his price tag), I think Detroit should jump on the opportunity to sign him as a 1a goalie for 3M/season. Give him and Osgood equal opportunity with a "win and you're in scenario" and operate the goaltending situation with a similar approach to Osgood/Hasek. I have never been more confident in our goaltending situation than Oz and Dom splitting time in the crease. The unfortunate part is that Giguere's child requires special attention and his doctor lives in California so he'll be much less inclined to sign all the way up in Detroit. JSG may have fallen on hard times lately, but you're kidding yourself if you think that he's washed up at age 33. Given the right opportunity he could be on the right side of a Conn Smythe in the next few years. Edited November 11, 2009 by Yellowknife Redwing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted November 11, 2009 I want nothing to do with stay-puff in our goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-TownWing 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 If Anaheim buys him out (which surely they'd have to given his price tag), I think Detroit should jump on the opportunity to sign him as a 1a goalie for 3M/season. Give him and Osgood equal opportunity with a "win and you're in scenario" and operate the goaltending situation with a similar approach to Osgood/Hasek. I have never been more confident in our goaltending situation than Oz and Dom splitting time in the crease. The unfortunate part is that Giguere's child requires special attention and his doctor lives in California so he'll be much less inclined to sign all the way up in Detroit. JSG may have fallen on hard times lately, but you're kidding yourself if you think that he's washed up at age 33. Given the right opportunity he could be on the right side of a Conn Smythe in the next few years. And what happens if Ozzie wins in that scenario? We get the same problem Anaheim has right now, just with a smaller buyout later. I agree that he might not be washed up, a change of scenery might give him a few more productive years, who knows. But I am saying that when a guy approaching his mid-30s has consecutive bad years, you at least have to have the idea that he might be in the back of your head before throwing a bunch of your cap space at him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hack & Whack Rule! 160 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) We would 1st need to move some players... I say move Franzen and Fil... They are not doing us any good at the moment. Let's call that "Plan N". That's "N" as in NEVER! That would be such a shortsighted move, there is no way any GM, especially Holland, is going to approve. Or even think about. In fact, if I were you, I'd be watching out for Kenny's Death Squad for even bringing it up. Edited November 11, 2009 by Hack & Whack Rule! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMAC 25 18 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Rafalski has been looking awfully pale recently, maybe he'd like to work on his tan? i dont know how many of these posts i've seen but its annoying. brian rafalski has a NO TRADE CLAUSE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duck Guy 86 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) NEWARK, N.J. Clarifying comments he had made a couple of days earlier, Ducks goaltender Jean-Sebastien Giguere on Wednesday reiterated that his foremost desire is to remain in Anaheim. I want to be part of this team, Giguere said after the clubs morning skate in preparation for tonights game against the New Jersey Devils at the Prudential Center. I want to be the No. 1 (goaltender) in Anaheim's Giguere said.I love playing here. I want to be here. linky Edited November 12, 2009 by Duck Guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Let's call that "Plan N". That's "N" as in NEVER! That would be such a shortsighted move, there is no way any GM, especially Holland, is going to approve. Or even think about. In fact, if I were you, I'd be watching out for Kenny's Death Squad for even bringing it up. The fact that you fall for my posts explains it all... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 i dont know how many of these posts i've seen but its annoying. brian rafalski has a NO TRADE CLAUSE LOL.... I know that you dips*** -- it was a joke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stiffy 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 why is it that this kind of crappy attitude always come from Quebec-born players? citing the very best Eric Cartman: good riddance, Jiggy! too bad Brian has already a quality goalie (or he thinks so) but there's always KHL to play in. The best was Robin Williams, he loves poking at the French. The quote doesn't do the performance justice, but in the last phrase below he struts around pretending to be a French general talking to his troops as they prepare for battle: Now how can you trust an army—how butch is an army that has a wine opener on its knife? "Men, I know that many of you have never opened Chardonnay under fire!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMAC 25 18 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 LOL.... I know that you dips*** -- it was a joke sorry haha sarcasam is hard to do online Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsasuk 2 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Hey who wouldnt be mad if they were in his shoes. He was not just the starting goalie for them, but a couple years ago he was easily considered to be on of the best in the league. But when your not performing, how are you going to start? And doesnt sound like he has too much love for his teamates and is acting kind of selfish. If he wants to start, he needs to prove he's worthy again and show the ducks that he is the #1 goalie. But for now, he should keep on conplaining considering he cant perform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Despite those comments, I'm pretty sure he'd prefer to be a number 1 elsewhere then be sitting on the bench for the Ducks. He'd welcome a trade where he'd start in a second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted November 13, 2009 No one wants to be a sitting duck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites