redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 so we claimed a slightly better matt ellis and that might even be a stretch. YAWN............ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 I absolutely can't stand Holland's distaste for physical players. Kris Newbury is leading the team with 10 points, has some fights, and plays physical every game. What gives? We sign this guy? Because Holland hates you and wants to make you suffer greatly. And it's working. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 Give the guy a chance, people! You never know he might surprise us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icesurfer 75 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) Can you say SPEED??? SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED SPEED Holland does NOT have a distaste for physical players. The problem is that most fighters are SLOW!!!! And one of the reasons why there are so many injuries is because of SPEED. Miller provides the Wings with the TWO most important assets that others do not provide....... SPEED and a TWO-WAY contract. Wings penalty kill stinks..... Miller is a good penalty killer and a good defensive forward. It seems that all anyone cares about or pays attention to is goals...... Well, now that Datsyuk and Zetterberg don't have to play extra minutes killing penalties maybe they will be the ones to put in the goals that everyone so badly wants, since they can now spend more time on offense...... that's what they are paid for. Miller at $525,000.00 is not being paid to be in goals. Edited November 11, 2009 by Icesurfer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) f***in love it...hes from jersey!! Edited November 11, 2009 by brett Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EuroTwin 240 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 (edited) I would also like to add that Abdelkador and Miller played at MSU before so that'll be awesome to watch. Again. Edited November 11, 2009 by EuroTwin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Law 15 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 I absolutely can't stand Holland's distaste for physical players. Kris Newbury is leading the team with 10 points, has some fights, and plays physical every game. What gives? We sign this guy? Because he wants those guys in GR developing and at the same time wants to maintain the ability to use the healthy scratch, that sounds kinda crazy but it seems like the most logical reason. Between this and the goalie stuff in GR i have no idea what's going on in Holland's head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfanforlife 0 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 WHY?! HE DOESNT HAVE A POINT AND IS MINUS 3!!!! i have never even heard of him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icesurfer 75 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 SPEED... Can't teach speed..... but you can certainly teach everything else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingfan1991 221 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 i really really liked him in the anahiem 7 game series last playoff.. he stood out for me while i was watching. hope he works out! him, helm and eaves what a line speed wise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 I absolutely can't stand Holland's distaste for physical players. Kris Newbury is leading the team with 10 points, has some fights, and plays physical every game. What gives? We sign this guy? I bet you were clamoring for Darryl Bootland to be here the last few years too. How's he doing over in Europe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted November 11, 2009 It just gives us more depth, and stacks the team up down in Grand Rapids. Im all for it, he is pretty solid defensively, and is fast. He could put on some more weight, which im sure he will. 6'2 170 is slim, especially for an NHL'er. This. Holland's philosophy is that competition brings out the best players... apparently he wants to extend that competition down to GR's forwards too. GR's defense has good competition among the rookie d-men (with Pyett pulling away from his peers and playing better than Kindl right now), but their isn't a ton of competition for forward spots, especially in among the top 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) Wings claim Miller off waiversFourth-year forward played in 14 games with Tampa Bay this seasonWednesday, 11.11.2009 / 12:23 PM / News By Bill Roose - DetroitRedWings.com Managing Editor DETROIT -- Miller will be expected to add some offensive depth to the Wings who have been bitten by early-season injuries to Johan Franzen (ACL), Valtteri Filppula (wrist) and Jason Williams (fibula), who will miss significant time. HAHA. Edited November 12, 2009 by VM1138 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Then why pick him up? He's getting paid $500,000. You do realize that's steep for a guy of his caliber. Either you're kidding around or you're talking out of your arse in a hilariously officious manner. Only one person under contract to the Red Wings last year made under $500K, and that was Randall Gelech. Who, you ask? Exactly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsJunkie 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 I guess I don't understand what the problem is. Is it that people just have to be pissed off about something? The Wings got Miller for NOTHING. Well, other than if there is a waiver fee. Nobody is suggesting that Miller is going to be another Yzerman or something. But the guy has good speed, has played in the Stanley Cup finals before and is not only pretty versatile, but cheap. If he doesn't make it in Detroit whats the big deal? I seem to remember about 16 years ago the Winnipeg Jets gave up on a speedy/versatile forward and the Wings got him for $1. Kris Draper had scored a grand total of 3 goals and 0 assists in 20 games over parts of 3 seasons for Winnipeg before the Wings got him. Drapes came to the Wings and found a home. Miller may never end up being another Draper, but these are the kinds of moves that Detroit has become famous for. It just seems more times than not they find a little magic. After all it isn't like Kenny Holland deserves any kind of break. It's not like the Wings have won 3 Stanley Cups with him as GM or something. Lets all just keep bashing Holland about what a crappy GM he is because he just went out and picked a guy off waivers that cost the team nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Classic Holland. Ignore your hardworking minor leaguers and pick up a guy that has zero points in 14 games. Lovely. ^-- Yeah! You tell 'em ESAD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuck in socal 56 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Man, at first I thought it said Ryan Miller. Eyes deceived me.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 I absolutely can't stand Holland's distaste for physical players. Kris Newbury is leading the team with 10 points, has some fights, and plays physical every game. What gives? We sign this guy? He hates them so much he didn't sign Brad May. Oh, there goes that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 He hates them so much he didn't sign Brad May. Oh, there goes that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sjradio 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 I bet you were clamoring for Darryl Bootland to be here the last few years too. How's he doing over in Europe? Actually he's closer than you think... He's playing for Kalamazoo in the ECHL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hokeychik22 17 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Excuses... Eaves - has another leg to skate on Filppula - tape the stick to his hand and let him block shots Franzen - has another leg to skate on Lebda - what else is new - turnoveritis Lilja - vacation is over May - pirates wear eye patches and go to work, why can't him Williams - at least he did not injure his face i like. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chase 0 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 ^-- Yeah! You tell 'em ESAD. HAHA!! WIN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 Just as a follow up to the posts in this tread I thought I'd add an article that brings a bit more perspective on just what the team expects from this kid: Red Wings claim forward Drew Miller off waivers By Ansar Khan November 11, 2009, 2:18PM COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Having played with Drew Miller in Anaheim, Brad May and Todd Bertuzzi put in a good word for him to affirm the opinion Detroit Red Wings scouts had of the former Michigan State standout. Needing to add forward depth to their injury-depleted roster, the Red Wings claimed Miller off waivers Wednesday from the Tampa Bay Lightning. Miller, 25, is a defensive forward, a good skater and a penalty killer who has struggled this season. Detroit general manager Ken Holland said Miller will compete for a job on the third or fourth line. "He'll be on the ice (Thursday morning for practice), then it's up to (coach) Mike Babcock to determine when, if and how much he's used," Holland said. Miller had no points, two penalty minutes and a minus-3 rating in 14 games for the Lightning. He has 15 points (six goals and nine assists) in 67 NHL games. "He's been around the NHL, knows what the league is about," Holland said. "We've got some kids in the system. If we have any more injuries, I'm hoping to move in players who've played in the league." Miller is in the final year of his contract ($525,000), a two-way deal. "(May and Bertuzzi) gave him strong endorsements and our video coach (Keith McKittrick) has been involved with him (at MSU)," Babcock said. "They all thought he was a player who was intelligent, could play all parts of the game and it would be a boost to our team. He can play the game offensively and defensively and he can skate, so he should help us." Miller played in all 13 playoff games for the Ducks last season, including the seven-game, second-round series against the Red Wings. He joined the Lightning in the offseason. "He's a really good player," May said. "He's as responsible of a player that I played with. He's got a good pedigree, too." Miller is the younger brother of Buffalo Sabres goaltender Ryan Miller and the cousin of former Red Wings forward Kevin Miller. Miller was named Michigan State's MVP in 2005-06 and was selected as the CCHA's best defensive forward. Miller and Red Wings forward Justin Abdelkader played together for one season at MSU. "It's a good opportunity for him. I can imagine how thrilled he is coming back to his home state," Abdelkader said. "He's a really good skater, good defensive player, blocks shots, does a lot of little things to help the team win." This should help counter that tool-bag E_S_A_D's drivel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lomekian 201 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 I'm quite positive about this signing....costs us nothing, looked like a decent 4th liner in the playoffs, has shown a bit more offensive potential earlier in his career, so if he fits could become a 3rd liner..has good speed and defensively responsible. At worst, he gets sent down or claimed, and at best he provides depth which allows us to send gatot down when everyone else is fit. exactly the kind of move i make on EHM from time to time.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucks 66 Report post Posted November 12, 2009 he knows brad stuart pretty well That was a brutal penalty call against Stuart there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
