Guest Shoreline Report post Posted November 26, 2009 I seriously doubt a 5 minute major and misconduct was necessary. Ovechkin was clearly going to hit Kaleta. You can see it on the replays that just before Kaleta gets hit he turns around which makes the hit into the boards look much worse than it is, because it's in slow motion. There's no way he can be expected to let up on that or make some judgment calls as he's hitting a player. The worst case should have been a 2 or 4 minute penalty and I wouldn't have pitched a fit if he wasn't given a penalty at all for that. How can Ovy be responsible for hitting a player who has the puck just because he turns his head like an idiot and puts himself in a prone position? Whatever happened to keeping your head up and paying attention? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 26, 2009 You aren't going to get the benefit of the doubt when you have a history of plays like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted November 26, 2009 You aren't going to get the benefit of the doubt when you have a history of plays like this. Yup, instead of actually being objective when looking at a specific situation, lets assume he was doing a cheapshot since he has had some borderline plays in his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stuck in socal 56 Report post Posted November 26, 2009 That was NOT a game misconduct. It was NO where near as dirty as his knee on knee against Gonchar last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 26, 2009 Yup, instead of actually being objective when looking at a specific situation, lets assume he was doing a cheapshot since he has had some borderline plays in his career. I didn't say it was dirty actually in my first post I said it was probably the wrong call. I'm just saying when you have past borderline plays the refs aren't going to assume intent like they have with several other players this year(Richards for example). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted November 26, 2009 This is not a charging penalty according to the rules, but definitely a boarding call. The result of the injuruy was from the hit into the boards not the distance traveled by Ovechkin. He did not leave his feet. He took 2 strides then then coasted into Kaleta. If Kaleta isn't turned there is no injury, no foul. He did and it did constitute a boarding major but not a game. http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26331 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted November 26, 2009 I didn't say it was dirty actually in my first post I said it was probably the wrong call. I'm just saying when you have past borderline plays the refs aren't going to assume intent like they have with several other players this year(Richards for example). This is the only time I can agree about Richards. It was borderline along with this one yet one gets a game and one gets nothing. The consistency in this league is pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted November 27, 2009 That was NOT a game misconduct. It was NO where near as dirty as his knee on knee against Gonchar last year. It wasn't dirty at all. It's unfortunate but he lead with his shoulder and didn't stick out his leg to catch Gonchar at all. Gonchar stepped out of the way to avoid the hit from the shoulder. He did it to himself. It was an accident. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 27, 2009 It wasn't dirty at all. It's unfortunate but he lead with his shoulder and didn't stick out his leg to catch Gonchar at all. Gonchar stepped out of the way to avoid the hit from the shoulder. He did it to himself. It was an accident. Oh please Ovechkin got beat and stuck out his leg. Laraque just did the same thing to Kronwall. It was and irresponsible play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MacK_Attack 108 Report post Posted November 27, 2009 Yup, instead of actually being objective when looking at a specific situation, lets assume he was doing a cheapshot since he has had some borderline plays in his career. If he didn't have a history of such plays, he might be more likely to get the benefit of the doubt. If you think past history and reputation doesn't play a role in these things, you're kidding yourself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zettie85 106 Report post Posted November 27, 2009 (edited) Oh please Ovechkin got beat and stuck out his leg. Laraque just did the same thing to Kronwall. It was and irresponsible play. Are we watching the same hit? The replays show Laraque did. I can watch the Gonchar one over and over and I don't see him sticking his leg out. It may be forward but but he lead with the shoulder. Edited November 27, 2009 by zettie85 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holiday 0 Report post Posted November 27, 2009 Oh please Ovechkin got beat and stuck out his leg. Laraque just did the same thing to Kronwall. It was and irresponsible play. His stance was wide. He never moved his leg, only his shoulder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted November 27, 2009 Are we watching the same hit? The replays show Laraque did. I can watch the Gonchar one over and over and I don't see him sticking his leg out. It may be forward but but he lead with the shoulder. I'm not going to change your opinion. But I feel Ovechkin lead with his leg and there forecheck made complete contact with Gonchars knee. That's what I'm seeing when I see the video. Either way it is borderline, and also him getting a tripping penalty as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted November 27, 2009 Are we watching the same hit? The replays show Laraque did. I can watch the Gonchar one over and over and I don't see him sticking his leg out. It may be forward but but he lead with the shoulder. He definitely didn't stick a leg out like Laraque did. But he does lead with his knee out wide as he angles at him, which is no way to throw a hit and what makes it borderline to me. If you come at a guy with your knee sticking out like that, there's a pretty good chance you're gonna have knee to knee contact. If you don't have the guy's upper body lined up for the hit (which he clearly doesn't), you've gotta let up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites