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Bert is a cancer much like Hossa... the team with those players will never win the cup.

I like bert sometimes but most games he just look flat out ridiculous with his arrogant style, one hand on stick, cute passing that leads to turnovers etc :ranting:

Please explain how Hossa was a cancer?

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Another tough call. Not sure exactly how I feel about it.

I was pretty shocked it was reversed. It look like he slightly kicked at it. I thought it was similar to Stuart's goal on Tuesday to where there was nothing absolutely conclusive to suggest something else that happened to overturn the call.

I was pretty confident that Stuart's goal was going to stand because it was initially called that way and it was too close to call. I was not confident that Bertuzzi's goal was going to stand because it was initially called a no goal and it was an iffy decision as well.

Ah well, they owe us after we got shafted against Dallas (twice). :P

As for Bertuzzi, still frustratingly inconsistent at times, but I hope the Flipper-Zetterberg-Bert line stays together for a bit. I didn't think it would work well but I'm gladly being proven wrong.

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I was pretty shocked it was reversed. It look like he slightly kicked at it. I thought it was similar to Stuart's goal on Tuesday to where there was nothing absolutely conclusive to suggest something else that happened to overturn the call.

I was pretty confident that Stuart's goal was going to stand because it was initially called that way and it was too close to call. I was not confident that Bertuzzi's goal was going to stand because it was initially called a no goal and it was an iffy decision as well.

Ah well, they owe us after we got shafted against Dallas (twice). :P

As for Bertuzzi, still frustratingly inconsistent at times, but I hope the Flipper-Zetterberg-Bert line stays together for a bit. I didn't think it would work well but I'm gladly being proven wrong.

I'll be honest now. I feel like after watching it again that it shouldn't have counted. At the same time, I don't feel too bad because of the crappy calls the Wings have gotten this year. There was Dallas and then Colorado I mean what the hell was that one about?

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Please explain how Hossa was a cancer?

Didn't win the cup with pittsburgh, switched sides and didn't win the cup after that, now he switched side again and won't win the cup :hehe:

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Not too shabby for his price tag. I'm interested to see how Bert performs in the playoffs, surprisingly, his best and msot productive performance in the playoffs was with us in 07 with 7 points in 15 games. I just hope he simplifies his game a bit, drives the net more and gets physical in a big wayy.

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Not too shabby for his price tag. I'm interested to see how Bert performs in the playoffs, surprisingly, his best and msot productive performance in the playoffs was with us in 07 with 7 points in 15 games. I just hope he simplifies his game a bit, drives the net more and gets physical in a big wayy.

It's weird, no matter how many times you or any of us have been saying this since Training camp, it doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.

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It's weird, no matter how many times you or any of us have been saying this since Training camp, it doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.

He'll hit more in the playoffs but not like Dallas Drake or even Darren Helm. As long as he plays a Holmstrom like role for the 2nd line I'm happy.

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It's weird, no matter how many times you or any of us have been saying this since Training camp, it doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon.

True, but we can still hold out hope. :P

Bert had a good season for the price tag, but seriously, before the playoffs someone needs to remind him he's 6'3" and 245 lbs. He should be going through guys, not trying to go around them.

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Bertuzzi and Williams are both frustrating in the same way. They are absolute crap most of the time and then they have little flickers of brilliance and score and all of a sudden "hail Bert/Willy".

But at the end of the day, both are consistently pathetic out there, turn over pucks endlessly, and most frustrating of all, both have the tools to get the job done and don't use them. Bertuzzi is rarely going to the net and never digging pucks (I don't know how many times yesterday alone Flip was in the corner trying to get the puck away from 3 Hawks and Bertuzzi was parked 8 feet away watching) and Williams has a great shot and good maneuverability but he gets blocked or shoots wide more than any player on the team and fumbled the puck on the simplest plays.

Bertuzzi gets some slack because of his production compared to his paycheck, but lets face it, every time he sits there and watches our smaller players dig in the corners and go to the net and subsequently turns over the puck when he gets it, I feel the little brain tumor called "Todd" grow a little bit in my head.

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I was never too impressed with Bertuzzi when they picked him up a few years ago and also wondered why they picked him up again. He is finally healthy now! He was on a hot streak earlier this year and he is still a presence when he is on the ice. Although I don't think the wings have that special something to win it all this year, I think they will surprise a few teams in the playoffs.

I agree that Williams is a disappointment this year...it seems as if he has lost confidence in himself.

As far as the comments on Bertuzzi, he definitely doesn't suck. He will more than likely retire within a year or two. He works well with his teammates and can plow over many players - taking out some if necessary. He may not be a premier player but he surely isn't chopped liver...he may surprise you in the playoffs!! Keep watching!

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Bertuzzi and Williams are both frustrating in the same way. They are absolute crap most of the time and then they have little flickers of brilliance and score and all of a sudden "hail Bert/Willy".

But at the end of the day, both are consistently pathetic out there, turn over pucks endlessly, and most frustrating of all, both have the tools to get the job done and don't use them. Bertuzzi is rarely going to the net and never digging pucks (I don't know how many times yesterday alone Flip was in the corner trying to get the puck away from 3 Hawks and Bertuzzi was parked 8 feet away watching) and Williams has a great shot and good maneuverability but he gets blocked or shoots wide more than any player on the team and fumbled the puck on the simplest plays.

Bertuzzi gets some slack because of his production compared to his paycheck, but lets face it, every time he sits there and watches our smaller players dig in the corners and go to the net and subsequently turns over the puck when he gets it, I feel the little brain tumor called "Todd" grow a little bit in my head.

Great post, I agree with everything.... just stfu already about the production and salary, he still doesn't drive the net and is physical... 6'3 240 but play the game like the sedin twins but obviously is far from their skill level...

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I was never too impressed with Bertuzzi when they picked him up a few years ago and also wondered why they picked him up again. He is finally healthy now! He was on a hot streak earlier this year and he is still a presence when he is on the ice. Although I don't think the wings have that special something to win it all this year, I think they will surprise a few teams in the playoffs.

I agree that Williams is a disappointment this year...it seems as if he has lost confidence in himself.

As far as the comments on Bertuzzi, he definitely doesn't suck. He will more than likely retire within a year or two. He works well with his teammates and can plow over many players - taking out some if necessary. He may not be a premier player but he surely isn't chopped liver...he may surprise you in the playoffs!! Keep watching!

To me Bertuzzi's hot streak earlier in the season was based on him finally doing what he had before and since been unwilling to: playing a Holmstrom role. Everything Holmstrom does every shift is what Bertuzzi has to do, but doesn't. When he was on a hot streak he was parked near the net and even retrieved a puck here and there and banged. But then he looked the stat sheet and said to himself "Wait, I have more than 12 goals, it must be 2003! Hooray I'm a superstar, here I come!".... FAIL.

Bertuzzi has to learn that he isn't helping the team by floating around the face-off circles watching the smaller and more skilled Filppula and Zetterberg go get him the puck so he can turn it over. It needs to be the other way around like it is with Homer: get to the net, leave to retrieve pucks in the corner and get it to skilled guys, return to the net, leave to provide a passing outlet down-low, give it back to the skilled players, return to the net.

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To me Bertuzzi's hot streak earlier in the season was based on him finally doing what he had before and since been unwilling to: playing a Holmstrom role. Everything Holmstrom does every shift is what Bertuzzi has to do, but doesn't. When he was on a hot streak he was parked near the net and even retrieved a puck here and there and banged. But then he looked the stat sheet and said to himself "Wait, I have more than 12 goals, it must be 2003! Hooray I'm a superstar, here I come!".... FAIL.

Bertuzzi has to learn that he isn't helping the team by floating around the face-off circles watching the smaller and more skilled Filppula and Zetterberg go get him the puck so he can turn it over. It needs to be the other way around like it is with Homer: get to the net, leave to retrieve pucks in the corner and get it to skilled guys, return to the net, leave to provide a passing outlet down-low, give it back to the skilled players, return to the net.

Exactly. If he plays that kind of role for the Wings with pride, then he is great for this team. If he is in a role where he's a guy who gets to play with the puck then he's not great for this team.

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Red Wings' Todd Bertuzzi knows net-front role critical to team's offensive success

By Ansar Khan

April 23, 2010, 9:30PM

GLENDALE, Ariz. -- It has taken Detroit Red Wings forward Todd Bertuzzi a while to warm up to his net-front role in the playoffs.

Standing around trying to screen the goaltender and create space for his linemates isn't as exciting as trying to make plays with the puck. But he knows what he has to do.

"I think I have a tendency to get a little; I don't mean to use the word 'bored,' but you see other guys handling the puck in the corner and you wish you could go play with them,'' Bertuzzi said Friday morning at Jobing.com Arena, hours before Game 5 against the Phoenix Coyotes.

"But I'm in a role where I'm better suited in front of the net with the guys we have. It seems to generate a handful of more goals for my line.''

Bertuzzi's line, with Henrik Zetterberg and Valtteri Filppula, has been the club's most effective unit through four games of the Western Conference quarterfinal series. As such, it's the only line that's remained intact.

To stay that way, coach Mike Babcock made it clear Bertuzzi better act as if he's tethered to the front of the net.

"If he's not around the net, he doesn't get to play with those guys. It's real simple,'' Babcock said. "On both of those (top) lines, we have a guy specifically to do that, to stay out of the way, take a D-man out of the way, so the (other two forwards) have more space. If they don't go (to the net), they don't get to play with those people.''

Coyotes defenseman Ed Jovanovski, who is hard to play against in his own right, knows how difficult it is to deal with the 6-foot-3, 225-pound Bertuzzi when he's battling for position in front of the crease.

"He's a big body, a tough guy to contain," Jovanovski said. "You've got to get body positioning on him, work his hips and move him around, but it's easier said than done. He's a load to handle in front of there.''

The physicality and animosity level between Bertuzzi and Jovanovski, former teammates with the Vancouver Canucks, was turned up a notch in Game 2.

"This time of year, you've got to do whatever it takes to help your team win,'' Jovanovski said. "Bert's a good friend of mine. We spent a lot of good years together, but I'm sure if he sees an opportunity to do something, he's going to do it. And I've got to do the same thing.''

Bertuzzi knew about Jovanovski. He said the rest of Phoenix's defense also is physical and competitive.

"Derek Morris is a real gritty player, too,'' Bertuzzi said. "I'm pretty impressed with (Keith) Yandle. I didn't know he was that good. We got to make sure we make it hard on them.''

That's not as easy to do in the post-lockout NHL, where obstruction is watched more closely.

"It's completely different from when I was in Vancouver; it was no holds-barred, you could do anything in front of the net and it was actually fun,'' Bertuzzi said. "Here, during the regular season it's pretty quiet, not much going on. During the playoffs it heats up a little more in front of the net. Looks a little bit more like the old days, makes it a lot more enjoyable there.''

Bertuzzi was one of only three Red Wings to play all 82 games (Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart were the others). That's a significant accomplishment for a player who's been dogged by a series of injuries the last few years.

"We got a good medical staff. That and what I was able to do in the summer contributed to staying healthy,'' Bertuzzi said. "It (225 pounds) is a weight I can still be strong on my feet with but also be able to keep up with the likes of whoever I'm playing with, whether it's (Pavel) Datsyuk, Z (Zetterberg). Game's turned into a speed game, either adjust or you get passed by.''

He plans on playing next season and would like to re-sign with the Red Wings, but his main focus is getting his first Stanley Cup ring.

"I just want to win. I want what all these guys have,'' Bertuzzi said. "Just from being around them, it makes you appreciate what they've gone through in order to get it. It's a tough battle and we're still a long ways away, but my only goal is to accomplish that.''

http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2010/04/red_wings_todd_bertuzzi_knows.html

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Todd Bertuzzi lives 15 minutes away from me and I saw him at a grocery store last summer. I was buying mango and he was in the organic section. I was tempted to go and say hi, but what the heck am I suppose to say? Hello Mr.Betuzzi, will you please sign my mango? He would have Steve Moored my ass!

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