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#21 Third Man In

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 05:28 PM

f*** you Dave Dombrowski. This trade breaks my heart.

It makes it hard to root for a team that jerks around its fans like this. Granderson was an ambassador for the league, not just a face of the team. This after screwing over Inge, dealing Jurrjens after a phenomenal start to his career, and trading Maybin and Miller after promising them to us for years as the future of the team. You think this move makes it easier to sign Verlander? We've become a friggin' farm club for the Yankees. Verlander will probably sign there too now.

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 05:50 PM

Dombrowski. is a ******! The Tigers just fell off the ladder. The team is now just as bad as the lions. pathetic and I don;t buy the excuse that money was the reason. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!

a complete disaster!

Im through with the tigers

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 08:40 PM

Dave Dombrowski = a much worse version of Joe Dumars without a championship.

I am so stunned and irate from losing Granderson right now. Did Dombrowski miss what trading the face of the franchise did to the Pistons?

I have no desire to watch the Tigers now except every fifth day when JV pitches.
 
 
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#24 mannysBETTER3434

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 08:56 PM

Dave DUMBbrowski....there I'm done!!

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Posted 08 December 2009 - 09:06 PM

Things To Look Forward To As A Tigers Fan In 2010:

1. Jeremy Bonderman's change-up (5th straight year on the list)

2. Dontrelle Willis fixing his control issues

3. Nate Robertson's improved jaw - this team isn't rallying to win games

4. Miguel Cabrera batting with nobody on base

5. Fernando Rodney not giving us a heart attack (save situations will be quite rare)

6. Great seats available at CoPa

7. Justin Verlander
 
 
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Posted 23 December 2009 - 07:20 PM

Another Tiger goes away. Rodney is heading out to the LA Angels.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 09:54 AM

Again for money reasons, Rodney was going to be hard to keep. But he's going to set-up Fuentes in Anaheim (I lived in LA. Please don't ever, ever call them the LA Angels tongue.gif) There have been a few closers who have signed elsewhere to be set-up men rather than be closers in Detroit. Are they worried about catching Todd Jones Syndrome?

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 12:56 PM

QUOTE (Third Man In @ December 24, 2009 - 10:54AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But he's going to set-up Fuentes in Anaheim (I lived in LA. Please don't ever, ever call them the LA Angels tongue.gif)

I still call them the California Angels.

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Posted 24 December 2009 - 07:24 PM

I would be THRILLED to see Rodney leave IF the Tigers had any bullpen depth, but they don't whatsover. I was more disappointed to see Lyon go -- I thought he was the Tigers best reliever last season.

Who is our closer now? Ryan Perry walking every other batter? Or are we just assuming there won't be many save opportunities to begin with?

David Dombrowski has cemented this off-season as a complete failure.
 
 
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Posted 27 December 2009 - 11:42 AM

QUOTE (GoWings1905 @ December 24, 2009 - 08:24PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Who is our closer now? Ryan Perry walking every other batter? Or are we just assuming there won't be many save opportunities to begin with?

GIVE IT UP FOR YOUR NEW TIGERS CLOSER.......JOEL ZOOM ZOOM ZUMAYA!!!!!!


oh and what did you expect. this team is BROKE. They went all in last year and lost. They have to cut back money because they are not going to get as many people to the CoPA as they did last year. That was BEFORE all the big moves this offseason.

Tigers are taking a few huge steps back in order to compete again 2-3 years down the road.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE (timothy1997 @ December 27, 2009 - 11:42AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
GIVE IT UP FOR YOUR NEW TIGERS CLOSER.......JOEL ZOOM ZOOM ZUMAYA!!!!!!


oh and what did you expect. this team is BROKE. They went all in last year and lost. They have to cut back money because they are not going to get as many people to the CoPA as they did last year. That was BEFORE all the big moves this offseason.

Tigers are taking a few huge steps back in order to compete again 2-3 years down the road.


Zumaya will be hurt after the first week.

People will show up at Comerica if the team is a contender, regardless of the economy. I think the Tigers were still 5th in the AL in attendance last season. The team is broke because of Dombrowski's awful contracts to dead weight on the team. They don't have to cut back the payroll as drastically if Dombrowski doesn't go nuts spending on Sheffield, Robertson, Willis, Bonderman, etc.

I'm fine with rebuilding -- every major league franchise goes through the cycle except the big markets and huge spenders. I just can't understand the mixed messages the Tigers organization is sending. Don't go into a rebuilding phase and sugarcoat it as "making changes while trying to contend." Nobody is buying that looking at the roster now.

Edited by GoWings1905, 28 December 2009 - 11:45 AM.

 
 
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 01:47 PM

QUOTE (Lidstrom for life @ December 8, 2009 - 03:34PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really really don't like this trade. Wow. Austin Jackson better end up winning like 10 gold gloves... Good thing we still have Nate Robertson and Dontrell Willis and the insane contracts they are locked into to cheer the team on from the bench! Good grief.


Austin Jackson is a young player and has done very well in AAA.

I'm a Yankees fan (ok, hate me now but at least I'm a Wings fan laugh.gif ). I will tell you I didn't like the idea of letting Jackson go because he very well could be a guy who wins numerous Gold Gloves. But then again...maybe not. He could be a AAA guy all his life with a few call ups or he could be a trade that bites the Yanks in the butt.

Coke will be decent but he has work to do still.

Edited by redwingsfan40, 29 December 2009 - 01:49 PM.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 11:47 PM

I hope the Tigers can get Valverde and salvage something from this disaster of an off-season. Another starter and a leadoff hitter especially would be nice too.
 
 
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Posted 15 January 2010 - 01:13 AM

Well, the Tigers have their closer, sign Valverde to a 2 year deal. Finally we get a real closer.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 09:47 AM

QUOTE (rwfan007 @ January 15, 2010 - 01:13AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, the Tigers have their closer, sign Valverde to a 2 year deal. Finally we get a real closer.

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I love this move. Let's hope we can make a few more smart moves before the season starts.

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 06:53 PM

QUOTE (TheDetroitRedWings @ January 15, 2010 - 09:47AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love this move. Let's hope we can make a few more smart moves before the season starts.


It softens the blow a bit but I'd rather have Grandy for sentimental reasons...

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Posted 15 January 2010 - 09:24 PM

QUOTE (Echolalia @ January 15, 2010 - 06:53PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It softens the blow a bit but I'd rather have Grandy for sentimental reasons...



Yeah, I wish we still had Curtis too. I just know he's gonna have a monster year in his first season with NY. Let's just hope Austin Jackson pans out. He's supposedly better than Granderson in all areas. A better hitter, faster, better defensively, and younger. Hopefully he lives up to that sort of hype.

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 09:23 AM

QUOTE (TheDetroitRedWings @ January 15, 2010 - 09:24PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I wish we still had Curtis too. I just know he's gonna have a monster year in his first season with NY. Let's just hope Austin Jackson pans out. He's supposedly better than Granderson in all areas. A better hitter, faster, better defensively, and younger. Hopefully he lives up to that sort of hype.

I think the tigers sold on grandy high, I think that his career in detroit has peaked, if he does do better with the yanks, well, I honestly doubt it would have been the same if he was with detroit.
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Posted 16 January 2010 - 03:14 PM

QUOTE (Shaman464 @ January 16, 2010 - 09:23AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the tigers sold on grandy high, I think that his career in detroit has peaked, if he does do better with the yanks, well, I honestly doubt it would have been the same if he was with detroit.



Agreed.

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 06:55 PM

2 questions

One

Should the Tigers sign Verlander long term at 9+ million dollars a year, or try to talk him down to around 8-8.5 for one year at a time till 2013?

two

What should their staff look like? Rotation? Middle relief? Long Relief? Who should throw setup?


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