Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted December 30, 2009 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=303550 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 LOL @ OV and Crosby getting votes. NEWS FLASH: THEY MISSED MUCH OF THIS PAST DECADE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Why isn't Aaron Downey on this list? FAIL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Mann 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Only two cups huh? Nice.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bonan78 1 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 LOL @ OV and Crosby getting votes. NEWS FLASH: THEY MISSED MUCH OF THIS PAST DECADE. Agreed, you can't really be considered the player of the decade when you played less than half of it, no matter how big of an impact you had. That being said, I think Lidstrom gets the nod, with Brodeur a close second. Iginla has been steady, brilliant at times, but only one SCF appearance during that time. Neidermayer was a consistently great player, but the only Cup he was really a major factor in was in Anaheim. Thornton has had great regular seasons but has been a constant playoff choker. Sakic had a brilliant first half of the decade, but didn't really do much in the latter half to warrant being called player of the decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 It is between Thornton, Iginla, Lidstrom and Brodeur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 It is between Thornton, Iginla, Lidstrom and Brodeur Yep. And I voted Lids, Thorns, Brods, and Iggy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 eh.... i say lidstrom, but cmon it's TSN and its Canada. Of course broduer is going to win. It's pretty much debatable between those two. No one else comes close Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shady Ultima 40 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Dammit... Carman voted for Crosby didn't he? Seriously, it has to be Lids or Brodeur. I don't even count Ovy or Sid, because if you were not playing in 00 (when Sid was in GRADE SCHOOL), you can't be player of the decade. As for 2010-2019... who knows, maybe one of them will be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 (edited) Nobody can really hold a candle to Lids or Brodeur. Out of that list, they are the only ones to actually play in the majority of the decade but also will go down in history as one of (if not the) best in their position all time (I'd maybe include Sakic on that list also, but the forward role is pretty stacked in history). Now its just a matter of figuring out whether Lids was more monumental at defense or Brodeur was at goalie. Edited December 30, 2009 by Echolalia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Brodeur takes it for Canada and Lidström takes it for the Red Wings, not really a surprise there is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rh007 0 Report post Posted December 30, 2009 Brodeur takes it for Canada and Lidström takes it for the Red Wings, not really a surprise there is it? Totally right. Canadiens have some problems with european players ;-) Remember when Nick takes the Cup as the first european captain... or when they compare Ovechkin and Crosby... Don Cherry is calling... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted December 30, 2009 It's funny none has voted Brodeur, yet several have stated him as only competition for Lidstrom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Holy Lidstrom Batman. Yes, I voted for Lidstrom... I think he's the best but not in a huge landslide over Brodeur or Thornton (More points than anyone over the last 10 years). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 I actually voted Lidstrom. But Crosby is a very close second. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 I actually voted Lidstrom. But Crosby is a very close second. Nick Lidstrom can inspire anyone to do great things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PrairieDawg 52 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 this isnt the perfect place but doing it anway.... Im not canadien but great job Stevie....NOT. Lets leave off a guy who is second in the entire league at his position in +/- has more hits then Chris Pronger Dan Boyle Duncan Keith Scott Niedermayer tied for the lead in goals for his position tied for second in the league in assists for his position & then has more points then 13 players named. The only players who outscored him are Thornton Crosby Getzlaf Perry & Marleau while Iginla equaled him in points. Once gain great job Stevie have fun beating Ovechkin Backstrom or even Jagr or Charas team. Gold-Russia Silver-Sweden Bronze-best of the rest (Czechs Finns Slovaks) I was offended on Stevie's behalf from this comment, and even more because it had a +4 next to it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Uwe Krupp? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Well, to determine a player of the decade we should first determine the best at each position. Defense is clearly Lidstrom; six Norrises and a Conn Smythe in leading the Wings to two Cups plus a gold medal for Sweden. Pretty convincing. Goaltending is pretty clear as well. Brodeur has won four Vezinas in the same timeframe, won a Cup and a gold medal. Only Hasek has more Vezinas under the current rules, and no other goalie has more than one Vezina in the decade. Which leaves forwards. Forwards who have been named to the first or second team at their position four times include: LW: Alexander Ovechkin RW: Jarome Iginla Forwards who have been named to the first or second team at their position three times include: C: Joe Sakic, Joe Thornton LW: Markus Naslund Forwards with two selections include: C: Mats Sundin, Evgeni Malkin LW/RW: Dany Heatley RW: Jaromir Jagr That's twenty of a possible 48 selections spent on four centers and five wingers. So we'll start consideration from these eight. Art Ross trophy: Sakic, Thornton, Ovechkin, Iginla, and Malkin once each from this list. Hart trophy: Ovechkin twice, Sakic and Thornton each once. Pearson award: Ovechkin twice, Sakic, Iginla, Naslund, and Jagr each once. Richard trophy: Ovechkin twice, Sakic, Iginla, Naslund, and Jagr each once. NHL assists leader: Thornton three times, Jagr and Malkin each once. So from all of this, the dominant forward at each position this decade is: C: Joe Sakic LW: Alexander Ovechkin RW: Jarome Iginla Who wins from that group? Ovechkin has been one of the top three forwards in the world since entering the league. Ovechkin is the only one who has shown clear dominance over others at his position for several years. Sakic and Iginla were the best at their position multiple times, but did not show clear dominance over others at their position. Sakic and Iginla, unlike Ovechkin, were also much closer to the other star players at all three forward positions than Ovechkin has been. So it comes down to Lidstrom, Brodeur, and Ovechkin. In that order. They have been the most dominant players at their respective positions, which is shown further by the fact that no other player has been named the best at his position four or more times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
swedishconnection 36 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 That Netminder from NJ is pretty good. Maybe the best ever. And that says a lot. Shutout record is nothing to take lightly. 2 Cups? Pretty decent- elite even. Gold looks good too. Credit where credit is due. Now for that Defenceman - 2 Stanley Cups this decade. One at the beginning, one at the end - consistency. 4 total cups. 6 Norris Trophies, 2 additional finalists 1 Conn Smythe Leads decade in defensive points Leads decade in Plus/minus (even though it is a debatable stat) 1 Olympic Gold Medal First European to win Conn Smythe First European to Captain a team to the Cup First European-born defenceman to reach 1000 points (2009) Detroit Red Wings' franchise record for points in a season for a defenceman, 2005–06 (80) Detroit Red Wings' franchise record for most post season assists (119) Became member of Triple Gold Club with Olympic win I am sure I am missing something on there, for both Lids and Martin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teebo 22 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 close vote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Lidstrom, of course. Though I am surprised how quickly Jagr has fallen out of the picture -- he definitely could be the forward of the decade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 close vote Not anymore. The TSN poll is overwhelmingly pro Fatso. 38%, with Lids in 2nd at 18%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Who here voted Thornton? Come on! The guy hasn't won a thing. Must have been one of our Shark fan friends. I don't think you can go wrong with either Brodeur or Lidstrom as #1. Their accomplishments and hardware is about equal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted December 31, 2009 Who here voted Thornton? Come on! The guy hasn't won a thing. Must have been one of our Shark fan friends. I don't think you can go wrong with either Brodeur or Lidstrom as #1. Their accomplishments and hardware is about equal. Maybe 'about' equal, but Lidstrom beats him decisively in every single area. 6 'best of position' trophies vs. 4 Each have 2 Stanley Cups, but Lidstrom has a Conn Smythe on top Brodeur-mania is starting to annoy me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
