alienanxiety 23 Report post Posted January 25, 2010 http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Kova...e-for-1/1/25696 isn't e4 the highest rating next to a done deal (e5)? of course, per eklund ... Jack Johnson to Red Wings (e4) Two sources, very close to the scene are saying a deal may get worked out that would send Jack Johnson to Detroit. I am told that "discussions are imminent." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 25, 2010 Discussions are imminent?? Is that to mean that talks haven't even taken place, but this is almost a done deal? How does that work? Only in Eklund's World! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alienanxiety 23 Report post Posted January 25, 2010 Discussions are imminent?? Is that to mean that talks haven't even taken place, but this is almost a done deal? How does that work? Only in Eklund's World! For some reason I was under the impression Jack Johnson was a good young player. He is a terrible, team-worst -18 ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 25, 2010 Just don't get your hopes up man. He ain't coming here. I highly doubt he even gets moved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GSBrooks13 204 Report post Posted January 25, 2010 Discussions are imminent?? Is that to mean that talks haven't even taken place, but this is almost a done deal? How does that work? Only in Eklund's World! Any deal is possible in Eklund's world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted January 25, 2010 For some reason I was under the impression Jack Johnson was a good young player. He is a terrible, team-worst -18 ! We all know though that ALOT of players play better in the wings organization/system Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 i want letang. not johnson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsdiehard13 33 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 For some reason I was under the impression Jack Johnson was a good young player. He is a terrible, team-worst -18 ! He needs a change of scenery... Not saying it will be here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 If Leino and Lebda were dealt together, then the cap would balance out. (sarcasim) Oh wait, no Lilja would still put it over the cap. I would think Lilja would have to be in the trade, that won't happen. This is bulls***. They need to shed one player to keep under the player cap, and thousands of dollars to stay under the cap when everyone comes back. Adding a 1.45 mill player makes no sense. I think that he could turn into a real player somewhere. I just don't see it working out here, with our continuing cap problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowknife Redwing 57 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 I'm not the firmest believer in Eklund, but you guys seem to have a misconception about what his "E" system means. If he was to arbitrarily select a number between 1 and 5 depending on how close he thought a deal was, his work as an "insider" wouldn't be reliable at all. All the "E" designation between 1 and 5 tells you is how many sources he's been talking to and whether they are internally connected to the team's management. The difference between a guy like Eklund and a guy like Darren Dreger is that Dreger waits for more concrete evidence before making a post. The only one of Eklund's ratings that means anything is E5 and he's almost never wrong with E5. E1 - This is a rumor that comes from a single reliable source not in any way directly connected to the players or teams involved. E2 - This rumor is simply more than one reliable sources not in any way directly connected to the players or teams involved and not connected to each other. It does not have to equate to two E1’s. It could be several E1’s. E3 - This rumor comes from a single source with ties somehow to the players or teams involved. E4 - This rumor comes from more than one source with ties to the players or teams involved. E5 - This rumor comes from source telling Eklund the deal is 100% done and just has not been announced yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 Considering how close the Kings and Wings currently are in the standings (and the playoffs) I don't understand why either team would be interested in dropping personnel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 It's Eklund, but oh how I would love if this deal was true. Jack Johnson has a ton of potential and keeping him long term wouldn't exactly replace Lidstrom (nobody can), but it would help the core a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest zackmorris Report post Posted January 31, 2010 If the Kings are smart and no one is guaranteeing they are, they wouldn't move him. They're going to be a legit playoff team for the first time in God knows how long, why deal anyone away? If anything I could see them trying to get a rental like Kovalchuk to help in their playoff push. I think they're a one a done team, or at best a team who ousts a favorite and then loses in the second round, btu still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) If the Kings are smart and no one is guaranteeing they are, they wouldn't move him. They're going to be a legit playoff team for the first time in God knows how long, why deal anyone away? If anything I could see them trying to get a rental like Kovalchuk to help in their playoff push. I think they're a one a done team, or at best a team who ousts a favorite and then loses in the second round, btu still. You are quickly becoming my new favorite poster! Not only cause my name is Zac, but because you crack me the F UP!! Edited January 31, 2010 by rage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 3, 2010 Wouldn't mind it at all after seeing him in the Olympics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 3, 2010 (edited) Found this picture of him and a fan outside the Joe a few years back. Edited March 3, 2010 by Hockeytown0001 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey King 1 Report post Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) If I was ken holland, I would make this trade: DET: Jack Johnson LA 5th round draft pick LA: Brian Rafalski Jakub Kindl DET 1st round draft pick DET 3rd round draft pick Edited June 4, 2010 by Hockey King Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 4, 2010 If I was ken holland, I would make this trade: DET: Jack Johnson LA 5th round draft pick LA: Brian Rafalski Jakub Kindl DET 1st round draft pick DET 3rd round draft pick why not just wait til next season,hopefully kovy signs there this season, then next season they have to re-sign jack johnson drew doughty wayne simmons john bernier and a few other guys who will all want more money, if lids retires we might be able to nab johnson then for nothing but dollars Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey King 1 Report post Posted June 4, 2010 (edited) why not just wait til next season,hopefully kovy signs there this season, then next season they have to re-sign jack johnson drew doughty wayne simmons john bernier and a few other guys who will all want more money, if lids retires we might be able to nab johnson then for nothing but dollars The only down side to that is any team could wait them out and sign. If the wings want to be sure they pick him up a trade would do it. And the way I look at it, raf is on the downside of his career so we would get a yound great defender who looks to get better (imagine paired with lids). Kindl is not proven and the wings have shown high draft choices aren't essential. Edited June 4, 2010 by Hockey King Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 4, 2010 The only down side to that is any team could wait them out and sign. If the wings want to be sure they pick him up a trade would do it. And the way I look at it, raf is on the downside of his career so we would get a yound great defender who looks to get better (imagine paired with lids). Kindl is not proven and the wings have shown high draft choices aren't essential. i just think trading Rafalski is a bad idea and Kindl, ok you get Johnson in return but after next season if Lids retires who do we have.... Johnson-Kronwall Stuart-Ericcson ?-? we would have the 7 mill to offer Johnson not saying thats what it would cost to get him but Lids contract will more then likely be spent on getting a D. at least if we sign him we have something like Rafalski-Johnson Kronwall-Stuart Ericcson-Kindl/? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey King 1 Report post Posted June 4, 2010 i just think trading Rafalski is a bad idea and Kindl, ok you get Johnson in return but after next season if Lids retires who do we have.... Johnson-Kronwall Stuart-Ericcson ?-? we would have the 7 mill to offer Johnson not saying thats what it would cost to get him but Lids contract will more then likely be spent on getting a D. at least if we sign him we have something like Rafalski-Johnson Kronwall-Stuart Ericcson-Kindl/? What about brendan smith? He was up for the H baker, or seidenberg from boston - who has said he would take a pay cut to come to detroit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted June 4, 2010 Yea and Smith will be playing for GR next year, so we'll have to see how hard hes pressing to make the team...if he dominates the AHL he might be on the wings on 11-12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted June 4, 2010 Would go ape s*** if this is true. Coming back to the roots where he played for the U of M The kid is legit and would be a great addition. I am ready to hear what the proposals have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
king_malice 17 Report post Posted June 4, 2010 dont forget Raffi has a NTC to and isnt he from Mich? i just cant see then trading him knowing that this could be Lids last year, and if Lids retires next season and Johnson doesnt re-sign there we would have alot of money to play with and there are alot of good D available next season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
