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#1 themule0932

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:20 PM

Honestly, does this team ever practice shootouts? They have to be one of the worst teams in the league on the shootouts. A good majority of their OT losses have come on the shootout.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:24 PM

I think we've won like 4 out of 10 shootouts or something similar. It's not great but not that terrible either. The big problem is letting games get to SO's.
It feels like the Wings usually play pretty good in OT's but can never put the game away.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:25 PM

These shootout losses are beginning to get mildly frustrating.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (Hockeytown0001 @ January 31, 2010 - 03:25PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
These shootout losses are beginning to get mildly frustrating.



The shootout losses are what could possibly cost them a playoff spot at the end of the season.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:31 PM

Get rid of f***in shootouts already. The novelty has worn off and frankly I'm sick of getting 1 point for losing them, I don't feel like anyone earns anything by losing.

Til then I'll just count the 1 point as an apology for how useless shootouts are. Go 3 on 3 for another 5 minutes if you have to but get rid of this s***, it's too "skills competition" for me.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:37 PM

QUOTE (zackmorris @ January 31, 2010 - 03:31PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Get rid of f***in shootouts already. The novelty has worn off and frankly I'm sick of getting 1 point for losing them, I don't feel like anyone earns anything by losing.

Til then I'll just count the 1 point as an apology for how useless shootouts are. Go 3 on 3 for another 5 minutes if you have to but get rid of this s***, it's too "skills competition" for me.


I hate them too, there is nothing wrong with a tie. They are a victory for the team underdog. Now it's just like well you outlasted the opponent now lets see if you can do it without the Defense that was helping you stay in the game.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:41 PM

They need to take more risks in OT and try to score. Maybe go with 3 forwards and one D, they already have a forward back checking most of the time anyways. They should also keep the shoot-out line up the same, Zetterberg, Datysuk and Bertuzzi/Flipulla. Williams isn't the guy I want shooting first.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:43 PM

Imagine in boxing if the fight ended in a draw, so they went to a "sudden death punchfest". Whoever can land the most nose shots in 40 seconds wins.

Or in football, imagine if after a tied OT, they had a competition to see which QB could throw the ball farther, starter or backup, doesn't matter.

Why don't we just have the goalies shoot on the forwards, while the goalies keep all their equipment on and the forwards sit in the net without a mask? I mean, if we really want to turn hockey in a goddamn circus why half ass it?

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:44 PM

Id like to see babcock explore some other shooter options eg see what a defenceman can do?

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:45 PM

QUOTE (TheOwl @ January 31, 2010 - 03:41PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They need to take more risks in OT and try to score. Maybe go with 3 forwards and one D, they already have a forward back checking most of the time anyways. They should also keep the shoot-out line up the same, Zetterberg, Datysuk and Bertuzzi/Flipulla. Williams isn't the guy I want shooting first.



Statistically Williams is very good on the shootout. I agree though, I want Datsuyk, Zetterberg, and Bertuzzi on the shootout with Filpulla filling in when Bert doesn't play.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:46 PM

I also think that it should be a full 20 minute OT period. No sudden death, just another period and the score after that is the final no matter what.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 03:50 PM

New shootout lineup.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:00 PM

QUOTE (GMRwings1983 @ January 31, 2010 - 03:50PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
New shootout lineup.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:00 PM

i thought shootout practice was lilja job!!

its frustrating to see these very talented players struggle in shootouts.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:02 PM

If you lose the game, you should get no points. How hard is that to understand for the NHL? It doesn't matter if it was tied in regulation and you lost in OT/shootout.....you lost the game. Period. If you win the game, you get points. If you lose the game, you get no points. Quit rewarding teams for failing to do their jobs in the 60 minute allotted time period.


Shootouts aref****** lame. I'd feel that way if we were winning them all the time or losing them all the time.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (Electrophile @ January 31, 2010 - 04:02PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you lose the game, you should get no points. How hard is that to understand for the NHL? It doesn't matter if it was tied in regulation and you lost in OT/shootout.....you lost the game. Period. If you win the game, you get points. If you lose the game, you get no points. Quit rewarding teams for failing to do their jobs in the 60 minute allotted time period.


Shootouts aref****** lame. I'd feel that way if we were winning them all the time or losing them all the time.


I think the NHL gives a point for shoot out losses because they know they are unfair.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:06 PM

Look at the shooting and save percentages of the worlds best shooters and goalies respectively. If that's not enough for you to start believing the shootout is not based on skill, but more luck and the ability to score on a breakaway and nothing else, I dunno what will.

3 point games are in place, solely, 100%, coooooompleeeeetely to make the playoff race more interesting. We're what? 8th or 9th? But at the same time, we're abotu 3 games away from either 12th or 4th place. Everyone is close in both conferences minus the top teams.

That's exactly what this league wants. And it sucks.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (MTU_Huskies963 @ January 31, 2010 - 03:37PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hate them too, there is nothing wrong with a tie. They are a victory for the team underdog. Now it's just like well you outlasted the opponent now lets see if you can do it without the Defense that was helping you stay in the game.

there are a lot of things with with ties

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (themule0932 @ January 31, 2010 - 03:45PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Statistically Williams is very good on the shootout. I agree though, I want Datsuyk, Zetterberg, and Bertuzzi on the shootout with Filpulla filling in when Bert doesn't play.


QUOTE (lilja4mvp @ January 31, 2010 - 03:48PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
career shootout % (prior to today):

datsyuk: 52.27
williams: 40.74
zetterberg: 30.56
bertuzzi: 30.43
filppula: 25.0 (1 for 4)

williams is the 2nd best shootout option on the wings, period. shootouts are one of the very few things jason williams does not totally suck at.

most LGW fans would probably still rather see zetterberg with another totally inept attempt in that #2 slot, though.


how did i know someone would say that. "williams is better at the shotoout, but i want to see the other guys go instead".

it's like thalf the wings fanbase is sniffing glue.

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Posted 31 January 2010 - 04:17 PM

QUOTE (shoe @ January 31, 2010 - 03:44PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Id like to see babcock explore some other shooter options eg see what a defenceman can do?

I completely understand always putting datsyuk in, but agree that people like Miller should get more chances to show off. A lot of these guys have good hands and just don't get the chance to use them because they are on 3rd and 4th lines.





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