Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 After which I respond how Carcillo has played 67 games and Filppula only 44. Flip-flop, 44 GMP. +/- 18min TOI = +/- 792min Carcillo, 68 GMP. +/- 12.5min TOI = +/- 850min Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Filppula has 780:34 TOI this year, Carcillo has 760:20. But Filppula also has 50 minutes of Shorthanded TOI. But frankly your argument is stupid. Who cares about Carcillo? Plus everyone knows Filppula is never going to be a great goal scorer. I'd be surprised if he ever tops 25 goals. At the end, when was the last time you could say that Carcillo carried his team offensively? Ummm...never, most likely. Definitely not this year at least. His only 2 points games came on a 5-2 win over Buffalo and a 7-2 trouncing of Tampa Bay. When was the last time you could say that about Flip? Uhh..Saturday? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DatsyukianDeke13 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Filppula has 780:34 TOI this year, Carcillo has 760:20. But Filppula also has 50 minutes of Shorthanded TOI. But frankly your argument is stupid. Who cares about Carcillo? Plus everyone knows Filppula is never going to be a great goal scorer. I'd be surprised if he ever tops 25 goals. At the end, when was the last time you could say that Carcillo carried his team offensively? Ummm...never, most likely. Definitely not this year at least. His only 2 points games came on a 5-2 win over Buffalo and a 7-2 trouncing of Tampa Bay. When was the last time you could say that about Flip? Uhh..Saturday? All hail ZDC, the President of the United Valtteri Filppula Alliance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Filppula has 780:34 TOI this year, Carcillo has 760:20. But Filppula also has 50 minutes of Shorthanded TOI. But frankly your argument is stupid. Who cares about Carcillo? Plus everyone knows Filppula is never going to be a great goal scorer. I'd be surprised if he ever tops 25 goals. At the end, when was the last time you could say that Carcillo carried his team offensively? Ummm...never, most likely. Definitely not this year at least. His only 2 points games came on a 5-2 win over Buffalo and a 7-2 trouncing of Tampa Bay. When was the last time you could say that about Flip? Uhh..Saturday? What type of player he's going to be??? IMO he's 3rd line center who can play on PK. If that's the case well he's well overpaid. For the second part - that argument can be used for Flip-flop also... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 Some have said a poor man's Joe Thornton. My hope is for someone along the lines of a late-blooming Saku Koivu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted March 22, 2010 What type of player he's going to be??? IMO he's 3rd line center who can play on PK. If that's the case well he's well overpaid. Going to be when? Maybe if he's still playing at 35 he'll only be a third line center who can play on the PK. Right now he is a second line center who would put up 60+ points easily with competent line mates over an entire season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Take away the 5 games Flip played on the third line and the 2 first games he played after being out for 2 months, Filppula has 25 points in the 27 games since he has been back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DatsyukianDeke13 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Where are all the Flip haters at today???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 He was amazing today, just amazing. Played 24 minutes, most of ANY forwards. Brilliant offensively with a G+A, and defensively very good too. Gun. $3 mil, yes please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 (edited) Actually, I like to think myself an honest individual so that isn't quite accurate. In 2 of the 5 games I took out for him playing on the third line, he did score 3 of those points. So I guess 22 points in 27 games. 67 point pace. I guess he's still overpaid. Edited March 23, 2010 by Z and D for the C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 The top threads on this forum are a joke. We should be talking about how awesome our own players were tonight. 2 Dominator2005 and dat's sick reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Filzebert was great tonight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Actually, I like to think myself an honest individual so that isn't quite accurate. In 2 of the 5 games I took out for him playing on the third line, he did score 3 of those points. So I guess 22 points in 27 games. 67 point pace. I guess he's still overpaid. Let's take just this game as exemple - he's on pace for 82 goals... The top threads on this forum are a joke. We should be talking about how awesome our own players were tonight. You are probably right... I'm might be hard on Flip-flop cause I think that he can be better, I may be wrong... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Let's take just this game as exemple - he's on pace for 82 goals... And 205 points from the last 2 games! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Fil was great at both ends of the rink today. Like I said in the GDT, one of the best games I've seen him play. Hope him and Z can keep this kind of chemistry up because they looked to be really clicking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 I was definitely a little hesitant to see Fil and Z play together. We've seen both in Red Wings and Team Finland games how Fil plays better when he gets to skate through the middle of the ice. Also, I wouldn't say he's bad along the boards but it is a little troublesome to watch him battle there sometimes. Having him at the wing places him right into that kind of spot where he struggles from time to time. Overall though, he and his linemates are producing and we're enjoying the ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 His goal tonight was interesting. At first when I saw it I thought it looked a tad lucky. It's probably more about him still getting used to shooting more and me not used to seeing him take those kind of shots and actually landing on net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted March 23, 2010 His goal tonight was interesting. At first when I saw it I thought it looked a tad lucky. It's probably more about him still getting used to shooting more and me not used to seeing him take those kind of shots and actually landing on net. I still have not had the chance to watch the game (tivoed it, got a huge subfinal tmrw) but I've noticed the more he relys on his instincts the better he is. He is starting to realise that he isn't Datsyuk and has stopped using these bogus moves that don't work, instead going for his underutiilized shot and utilizing his above average hands (before I felt as if he was overdoing it/forcing it) that feel natural. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DatsyukianDeke13 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Filppula's goal from the Pens game #2 on ESPN's top-ten plays ******* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 I still have not had the chance to watch the game (tivoed it, got a huge subfinal tmrw) but I've noticed the more he relys on his instincts the better he is. He is starting to realise that he isn't Datsyuk and has stopped using these bogus moves that don't work, instead going for his underutiilized shot and utilizing his above average hands (before I felt as if he was overdoing it/forcing it) that feel natural. Yeah you should watch the game because... well, I don't know about anyone else but to me it looks like he was doing a Datsyukian impression out there the way he was handling the puck at times. He attempted a good amount of shots for his standards. Or at least, it seemed that way; I haven't looked at the stats. At times it looks really ugly when he's fighting along the boards for the puck. You can tell he's being aggressive but maybe needs to be a little smarter. Oh and I definitely was not a fan of that sequence of multiple shots from Maxi Pad and then a small shot from behind (surprise, surprise) from Whiny Face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Once he really learns how to make a pass by bouncing the puck off the goalie's pads for a rebound his point totals should increase a bit. It's not at the same level obviously but it's one of the reasons why Gustav Nyquist has much more points this year. Some of his assists were just shots on the net that came back out for rebounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Filppula's goal from the Pens game #2 on ESPN's top-ten plays ******* Yes, it was that damn good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Yes, it was that damn good Can't wait until he shoots it with more confidence. It seemed to me that he was just experimenting with that goal. Hopefully soon he will add just a touch of a shooter's mentality where you always think the next one is going in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 23, 2010 Confidence is Val's kryptonite. He's a completely different player when he's confident. Zetterberg is the same way. If Val could only even out his game life would be much easier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted March 24, 2010 How do you say "Shoot the puck!" in Finnish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites