cjm502 165 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Filp is a very good offensively and defensively. He goes to the "dirty areas" and battles for the puck. He is much stronger on the puck than he has been in the past. He is one of our faster guys. If you see Filp as no better than a 3rd liner there is something wrong with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cjm502 165 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 I'm with ya on Maltby. I still think he has that certain 'something' to be an effective player in the playoffs. Malts completely knocked Crosby off his game at times in the playoffs last year. I have never seen a guy run his mouth so consistently, with a few exceptions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 At the risk of sounding like Thanksgiving at the Filppula house, I'm thankful for Val's offensive production since returning in December. He's been a member of the top 3 forwards since then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Theophany 110 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 At the risk of sounding like Thanksgiving at the Filppula house, I'm thankful for Val's offensive production since returning in December. He's been a member of the top 3 forwards since then. Couldn't agree with you more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwame_Kilpatrick 0 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 he is great and he is the heart of the club along with howie and helm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Looks like Babs will go back to having Fil as the third line center (Boo!). Not my preference personally but at least he'll still get the minutes he deserves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Didn't we already go through all this "overpaid" talk? The average cap hit for guys having about the same ppg than Filppula was about 2,7M. Looking at the points, Filppula was overpaid by about 300k. But that's only when counting in also those entry level contract guys. If you compare him only to the guys who are not on entry level contracts - which would be fair IMO - he's not overpaid. It was a statistic fact, no need to argue about that. AND that's only looking at the points. All this being easily in top10 defensively among those about 50 players who had about the same ppg than Filppula. Filppula isn't overpaid. End of discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingAbner 13 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Filppula was ranked #39th in PPG for all players in the playoffs last year (and this is taking into account that he played on the third line for half of the games). We can argue semantics of what spectacular means, but that's damn good for what you think is a "third liner". http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/player/_...type/3/count/41 According to that, he was ranked 46th....just behind Brent Seabrook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Flip is 10 times the player he was when the Wings drafted him and he's only going to get better. It's been great to follow his progress and I'm pulling for him 100%. He also has a terrific attitude and is a down-to-earth kind of guy. He's going to be one of Finland's key players in the Olympics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 http://espn.go.com/nhl/statistics/player/_...type/3/count/41 According to that, he was ranked 46th....just behind Brent Seabrook. I'm sorry, I meant forwards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 he's easily been one of our best 2 players night in and night out every game since he's been back from injury... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 I'm sorry, I meant forwards. Not really a useful statistic anyways when the majority of the players used only participated in a handful of games. But 16 points in 23 games from a third liner is certainly good no matter how you slice it. Although I think he benefited tremendously from often playing with Hossa and Franzen, two top notch goal scorers that are capable of a lot of improvisation and don't really rely on a playmaking center much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Flip is 10 times the player he was when the Wings drafted him and he's only going to get better. It's been great to follow his progress and I'm pulling for him 100%. He also has a terrific attitude and is a down-to-earth kind of guy. He's going to be one of Finland's key players in the Olympics. Any ideas where he'll play in the lineup? I've heard talk on here that he might play on the first line but I've read articles that place him on the third. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AARedWingFan 13 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 he's easily been one of our best 2 players night in and night out every game since he's been back from injury... Agreed. If he keeps up his level of play, the points that he is lacking this year will start to come. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 (edited) Not really a useful statistic anyways when the majority of the players used only participated in a handful of games. But 16 points in 23 games from a third liner is certainly good no matter how you slice it. Although I think he benefited tremendously from often playing with Hossa and Franzen, two top notch goal scorers that are capable of a lot of improvisation and don't really rely on a playmaking center much. Also you're only taking into account half of the players. But while it couldn't stand on it's own, it still goes back to, and supports the notion that he should be on the second line. Edited February 8, 2010 by Z and D for the C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Any ideas where he'll play in the lineup? I've heard talk on here that he might play on the first line but I've read articles that place him on the third.If there won't be any major injuries the first line will be Filppula-Koivu-Ruutu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 If there won't be any major injuries the first line will be Filppula-Koivu-Ruutu. Cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cupforwings 138 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Not really a useful statistic anyways when the majority of the players used only participated in a handful of games. But 16 points in 23 games from a third liner is certainly good no matter how you slice it. Although I think he benefited tremendously from often playing with Hossa and Franzen, two top notch goal scorers that are capable of a lot of improvisation and don't really rely on a playmaking center much. Thats why are team was so good the last few years. Our third line was full of players, like Flip, Sammy, and Hudler, who are all capable of being second line scorers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted February 8, 2010 Any ideas where he'll play in the lineup? I've heard talk on here that he might play on the first line but I've read articles that place him on the third. He's versatile so he can easily be switched up and down in the lineup but he'll probably play wing on the top line due to the abundance of centers on the roster. He will definitely be seeing a lot of ice time either way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) Flip's second goal in as many games (unheard of!) gives him his 10th point in 11 games, and 16th point in 20 games. I don't think it's crazy to say that his injury actually somehow made him a better player. Edited February 10, 2010 by Z and D for the C Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Val's been great since returning, and is the only player besides Miller and Howard this year to actually overperform. Hats off Val. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Flip's second goal in as many games (unheard of!) gives him his 10th point in 11 games, and 16th point in 20 games. I don't think it's crazy to say that his injury actually somehow made him a better player. I certainly think the injury made him hungrier. That hunger definitely shows. Earlier in his career his was much more hot/cold. I love how consistent he's been since December. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stiffy 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 They should transfuse some of his blood to the rest of the team. Whatever motivates this guy to play so hard is a great thing. He looks like a teen idol, but plays so damn hard and shows no fear. Flip and Howard are bright spots this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinWing 26 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 They should transfuse some of his blood to the rest of the team. Whatever motivates this guy to play so hard is a great thing. He looks like a teen idol, but plays so damn hard and shows no fear. Flip and Howard are bright spots this season. He's busting his ass for the team and there's nothing that I love more. I wish that fire was a bit more contagious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 25, 2010 What else needs to be said? Case. and. Point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites