newfy 695 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 I'm kinda impartial to this, I don't really see tollefsen playing a game in a wings jersey anytime soon or in the future. I'd rather have Janik/Kindl up than tollefsen because they already know the system and have been bred to be wings. just my opinion though Janik is the same style player as Tollefsen but Ole is a better hitter and fighter. A stay at home defenseman is a stay at home defenseman in any system, I'm sure after 10 games with the griffs OKT will know the system just fine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Janik is the same style player as Tollefsen but Ole is a better hitter and fighter. A stay at home defenseman is a stay at home defenseman in any system, I'm sure after 10 games with the griffs OKT will know the system just fine. Agreed. I'd much rather have an 'up to speed' Tollefson over Janik. He brings a couple elements Janik doesn't possess and he's had a fair amount of NHL experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Agreed. I'd much rather have an 'up to speed' Tollefson over Janik. He brings a couple elements Janik doesn't possess and he's had a fair amount of NHL experience. Yeah not to mention Ole is still 25 and could develop quite a bit still. Janik has pretty much peaked out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coolio Mendez 7 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Tollefsen is a good scrapper. Has that Norwegian psychois. First Norwegian player for Detroit eh? He's a good addition. Defends the goalie after the whisle like a bodyguard (something the Wings have been missing) and a better fighter than most. He's a defensive D. Better suited for Western teams. I think he made the Flyers D man corp. Did really well in Colombus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beepbeep 3 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 So, if he is called up would he have to clear waivers again? Someone please explain how that works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Tollefsen is a good scrapper. Has that Norwegian psychois. First Norwegian player for Detroit eh? He's a good addition. Defends the goalie after the whisle like a bodyguard (something the Wings have been missing) and a better fighter than most. He's a defensive D. Better suited for Western teams. I think he made the Flyers D man corp. Did really well in Colombus. Yeah he did, and he sucked. He did in Columbus too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Yeah he did, and he sucked. He did in Columbus too. So therefore he will suck forever... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Lidstromboli Report post Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) yeah i mean he's only 25 so he has tons of potential. if he gets called up they'll feed him some magic red wings juice that makes him real good Edited February 9, 2010 by Lidstromboli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beepbeep 3 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 yeah i mean he's only 25 so he has tons of potential. if he gets called up they'll feed him some magic red wings juice that makes him real good Better hope they don't feed him the s*** they've been drinkin this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 So, if he is called up would he have to clear waivers again? Someone please explain how that works. re-entry waivers - yes... and the danger to re-entry waivers, is that if someone else claims him, we're on the hook for half his salary coming back up... and half his cap hit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beepbeep 3 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 re-entry waivers - yes... and the danger to re-entry waivers, is that if someone else claims him, we're on the hook for half his salary coming back up... and half his cap hit... Thanks for the info. I thought that would be the case but not sure. So I guess there isn't much chance of seeing him called up unless he is one of the black aces at playoff time. (I'm trying real heard to be optimistic) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Thanks for the info. I thought that would be the case but not sure. So I guess there isn't much chance of seeing him called up unless he is one of the black aces at playoff time. (I'm trying real heard to be optimistic) exactly... I'm more just hoping he buys into the system and re-signs in the offseason with the mindset that he will play in GR, but have a chance to earn a spot out of camp... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) As much as I can appreciate TKO (as I call him) being a scrappy force on the blueline, I think it's highly unlikely that he plays for the Red Wings. I can think of maybe 3 scenarios where he would: 1. Lidstrom or Lilja retire next season. 2. More injuries to the blueline. 3. The Wings decide to carry 8 defensemen again next year, with Meech and Lebda gone (Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, Stuart, Lilja, Ericsson, Kindl & Tollesfsen). I think this could be most likely, that way if Kindl and Ericsson both struggle, he could be tossed in the mix for relief perhaps? If I put myself in his shoes, I wouldn't really want to spend time on an AHL team when I've played in the pros for 4-5 years. He might've been a fringe NHL in that time, but it was still time up with the big club. Like I said, I do see some potential there, but it just doesn't seem likely that he'll wear the winged wheel. Edited February 9, 2010 by Jesusberg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Hopefully TKO will be debuting tonight for Grand Rapids against Texas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 As much as I can appreciate TKO (as I call him) being a scrappy force on the blueline, I think it's highly unlikely that he plays for the Red Wings. I can think of maybe 3 scenarios where he would: 1. Lidstrom or Lilja retire next season. 2. More injuries to the blueline. 3. The Wings decide to carry 8 defensemen again next year, with Meech and Lebda gone (Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall, Stuart, Lilja, Ericsson, Kindl & Tollesfsen). I think this could be most likely, that way if Kindl and Ericsson both struggle, he could be tossed in the mix for relief perhaps? If I put myself in his shoes, I wouldn't really want to spend time on an NHL team when I've played in the pros for 4-5 years. He might've been a fringe NHL in that time, but it was still time up with the big club. Like I said, I do see some potential there, but it just doesn't seem likely that he'll wear the winged wheel. I actually agree with all of that, but some guys also just want a place to call home and are sick of bouncing around... If he buys into the system, I could see him staying in GR for a year, as long as he's promised he'll be given a chance to win a job out of camp... remember where he's come from, Columbus and then Phi - 2 pretty poorly run organizations by all accounts as far as player development (pretty much toss you into the deep end and float or sink) - maybe this is just what he needs... side note - I think scenario 2 is the most likely as well, of the scenarios where he stays... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Hopefully TKO will be debuting tonight for Grand Rapids against Texas. I hope so. Would be awesome to see a D-Pairing of Pain Train and TKO! I will be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 I hope so. Would be awesome to see a D-Pairing of Pain Train and TKO! I will be there.Does that team have a great defense or what? Lilja, Tollefsen, Janik, Delmore, Kindl, Pyett. That's like the perfect AHL defense with three offensive and three defensive guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Does that team have a great defense or what? Lilja, Tollefsen, Janik, Delmore, Kindl, Pyett. That's like the perfect AHL defense with three offensive and three defensive guys. Their defense has been quite bad for the most part though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Delmore especially has been a tool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Their defense has been quite bad for the most part though. Quoted for truthiness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 (edited) I haven't actually watched a single GR game, but that defense looks good on paper for an AHL team. Edited February 9, 2010 by Finnish Wing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 I haven't actually watched a single GR game Not many people on here seem to have. I dont know why. They're very entertaining games with decent banter in the stream chat. Plus people get to see our future stars in action on nights when Detroit aren't playing and wouldnt make such ridiculous claims about guys that aren't NHL ready like Kindl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Not many people on here seem to have. I dont know why. They're very entertaining games with decent banter in the stream chat. Plus people get to see our future stars in action on nights when Detroit aren't playing and wouldnt make such ridiculous claims about guys that aren't NHL ready like Kindl. Well if those AHL games are played about the same time as NHL games, I dunno if I can watch them very often. I can of course, but I think staying awake for these NHL games is enough for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted February 9, 2010 Not many people on here seem to have. I dont know why. They're very entertaining games with decent banter in the stream chat. Plus people get to see our future stars in action on nights when Detroit aren't playing and wouldnt make such ridiculous claims about guys that aren't NHL ready like Kindl. I don't have the time to really watch the streams, but this year I have made it to a lot of Friday games, and I think you might know why Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 4,949 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Time to waive Lebda and Meech bring up this guy and Lilja... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
