2010 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - March 3rd, 3:00 PM ET

[Guest Crymson]

Not quite. Slegr was 2002. The Fischer call-up was 2001, if I remember correctly.

You're right about the Slegr pickup in 2002, but really-- did they need much that year?

Is there any comparison between that year and this one? That year, they were destined for the President's trophy....and Holland still went out and got a depth defenseman. (Who only played 1 playoff game when Fish was suspended).

This year? Struggling to make the playoffs and standing pat. Nice.

God damn, you're nitpicking. Has your goal evolved into trying to convince people that Holland is a bad GM?

Oh, and is there any comparison between that year and this one? No, not really, because in that year there was no salary cap and Holland had the ability and the clearance to go out and get three future hall-of-famers.

Anyway, your argument has evolved from borderline to outright stupid, so enough of this. Enjoy whining like a child.

Edited March 3, 2010 by Crymson

[RedWingAbner 13]

He's a 40-50 point scorer, and the Pens gave up the top prospect in their system.

Caputi was their top prospect? What about Tangradi or Despres?

[Marty Barry 230]

Raffi Torres to Buffalo, per TSN.

[Original-Six 254]

He's a 40-50 point scorer, and the Pens gave up the top prospect in their system.

40-50 when only playing 60 games

60+ in 82

[RedWingAbner 13]

God damn, you're nitpicking. Has your goal evolved into trying to convince people that Holland is a bad GM?

I just made a valid point about how Holland is letting them slip this year. That's not nitpicking.

He's not a bad GM. He's middle-of-the-pack.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

LAST UPDATED (3-3-2010, 2:24 PM ET)

March 3, 2010

Buffalo Acquires: (F) Raffi Torres

Columbus Acquires: (D) Nathan Paetsch, 2nd-Round Pick

[ogreslayer 1,069]

Not quite. Slegr was 2002. The Fischer call-up was 2001, if I remember correctly.

You're right about the Slegr pickup in 2002, but really-- did they need much that year?

Is there any comparison between that year and this one? That year, they were destined for the President's trophy....and Holland still went out and got a depth defenseman. (Who only played 1 playoff game when Fish was suspended).

This year? Struggling to make the playoffs and standing pat. Nice.

The difference between a no-cap & capped league. Plus back then, the Wings would more easily part with draft picks since money could help cover for a lack of depth/development in the farm system. Apples to oranges.

[GoWings1905 2,694]

I just made a valid point about how Holland is letting them slip this year. That's not nitpicking.

He's not a bad GM. He's middle-of-the-pack.

Please - name 15 better GM's in the league right now.

The Red Wings don't need another 3rd/4th line forward. They need a pure goal scorer and there aren't many of those floating around and secondly the Red Wings don't have the resources to add one.

What wasn't clear when Holland said "this is our team"?

[evilmrt 636]

I'm going to guess that alot of Yotes fans are pissed to see Mueller go...but seriously, hes pitiful for a 8th overall pick...obviously hes not working with Dave Tippett's system. Kind of a shame. Wolski should add some needed scoring for the playoffs, though.

[seeinred 1,488]

40-50 when only playing 60 games

60+ in 82

He had 61 last year.

You think he's going a PPG for the rest of this season? With (likely) 3rd line minutes?

[evilmrt 636]

Hmm, server issues?

Wheres the big trades, anyhow? Come on, Kenny! We want Afinogenov! Lebda and umm....

Edited March 3, 2010 by evilmrt

[Hockeytown0001 7,652]

Good move for Buffalo.

[RedWingAbner 13]

Please - name 15 better GM's in the league right now.

The Red Wings don't need another 3rd/4th line forward. They need a pure goal scorer and there aren't many of those floating around and secondly the Red Wings don't have the resources to add one.

What wasn't clear when Holland said "this is our team"?

I don't know that he'd be 16th, but I'll try to name 10 for you.

Brian Burke, Mike Gillis, George McPhee, Ray Shero, Brian Murray (recently), Darcy Regier (on a limited budget, that team is always competitive), Dave Poile (same as Regier), Lou Lamorello, Sutter (Flames GM).

Ah well, there are 9 that I feel are better for different reasons. I'd rank him #10.

[kylee 727]

im glad holland is staying put. altho it would've been interesting to see Kozlov with the Wings again. im overall happy and want this group to focus on playing better the last 1/5 of the season and getting into the playoffs.

[dat's sick 1,002]

I'm going to guess that alot of Yotes fans are pissed to see Mueller go

Yep, I talked to him just now and he didn't like the move at all.

[Carman 387]

I don't know that he'd be 16th, but I'll try to name 10 for you.

Brian Burke, Mike Gillis, George McPhee, Ray Shero, Brian Murray (recently), Darcy Regier (on a limited budget, that team is always competitive), Dave Poile (same as Regier), Lou Lamorello, Sutter (Flames GM).

Ah well, there are 9 that I feel are better for different reasons. I'd rank him #10.

Sutter?

Wow.

[kylee 727]

Yep, I talked to him just now and he didn't like the move at all.

haha!

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

LAST UPDATED (3-3-2010, 2:39 PM ET)

March 3, 2010

Atlanta Acquires: (F) Clarke MacArthur

Buffalo Acquires: TBD

[RedWingAbner 13]

Sutter?

Wow.

You don't think so? I can't believe that he's got Regehr locked up for such a small cap hit. I guess it's a debateable one, in terms of where to put him, but I think he makes bold moves to make his team better.

[Marty Barry 230]

Once again, Pain Train, Kronner, Mule.

[Guest Crymson]

LAST UPDATED (3-3-2010, 2:39 PM ET)

March 3, 2010

Atlanta Acquires: (F) Clarke MacArthur

Buffalo Acquires: TBD

I'm told it's a 3rd and a 4th. I can only assume that this is Buffalo clearing cap space.

[Carman 387]

You don't think so? I can't believe that he's got Regehr locked up for such a small cap hit. I guess it's a debateable one, in terms of where to put him, but I think he makes bold moves to make his team better.

I think you and I have a different definition of making a team better.

Holland makes smart moves, he's not perfect but there is a reason he is so highly regarded.

Remember getting Stuart? and what happened that year?

[GoWings1905 2,694]

Yep, I talked to him just now and he didn't like the move at all.

Well done.

[RedWingAbner 13]

I think you and I have a different definition of making a team better.

Holland makes smart moves, he's not perfect but there is a reason he is so highly regarded.

Remember getting Stuart? and what happened that year?

Yes. I am not taking away from Holland on that one.

However, when was the last time he took a 2nd round pick and traded it for a goalie who turned into a superstar? I give Sutter credit for things like that.

[dat's sick 1,002]

I think he makes bold moves

True.

to make his team better.

False.