2010 NHL Trade Deadline Thread - March 3rd, 3:00 PM ET

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Yep, I talked to him just now and he didn't like the move at all.

I hereby stamp this post:

[Carman 387]

Yes. I am not taking away from Holland on that one.

However, when was the last time he took a 2nd round pick and traded it for a goalie who turned into a superstar? I give Sutter credit for things like that.

Well considering Holland hasn't needed to make those moves to win cups I don't see how you can hold it against him.

[RedWingAbner 13]

Well considering Holland hasn't needed to make those moves to win cups I don't see how you can hold it against him.

Point taken, but there isnt something measureable that we can rank GMs with. Holland is not solely responsible for Cups. Sutter has been in a different position because he doesn't have the scouting dept. that Detroit does.

Sutter has had to do more to make it work. Holland has tried to maintain. It's starting now, guys, to show that he's not as amazing as people made him out to be.

[Marty Barry 230]

Jurcina to Washington from C-bus. C-bus sellers not looking for playoffs.

[Carman 387]

Point taken, but there isnt something measureable that we can rank GMs with. Holland is not solely responsible for Cups. Sutter has been in a different position because he doesn't have the scouting dept. that Detroit does.

Sutter has had to do more to make it work. Holland has tried to maintain. It's starting now, guys, to show that he's not as amazing as people made him out to be.

Let's wait to make that claim until after the season.

This has been as season that was negatively impacted more by injuries then bad signings...

[Majsheppard 203]

Soooooooo bored. All the updates are guys are not moving. What happened to the Maxim talk out of Atlanta? I heard someone say that Wings were talking to them.

[BigTex 1]

I think Holland is an excellent GM, but he also has one of the best scouting departments in the league. All of the credit for those 7th round gems should be given to Hakkan Andersson (sp?). He's a masterful scout and the players over in Scandanavia fit well with the system the Wings play.

[Marty Barry 230]

Let's wait to make that claim until after the season.

This has been as season that was negatively impacted more by injuries then bad signings...

Word!

[stillwater 186]

However, when was the last time he took a 2nd round pick and traded it for a goalie who turned into a superstar? I give Sutter credit for things like that.

When was the last time Sutter took someone with the 210th pick in the entry draft and that player became one of the best players in the league?

Stop cherry-picking.

[Marty Barry 230]

Deadline over. Crosby stays in Pittsburgh.

[RedWingAbner 13]

Let's wait to make that claim until after the season.

This has been as season that was negatively impacted more by injuries then bad signings...

Fair enough. I am just quick to make the proclamation.

[esteef 2,679]

Deadline over. Crosby stays in Pittsburgh.

esteef

[Majsheppard 203]

Let's wait to make that claim until after the season.

This has been as season that was negatively impacted more by injuries then bad signings...

I agree with the first statement, but I think the second is up for debate.

I know better then to actually debate it, because you get alot of opinion based on emotion.

I would say that overall, I like the way the team has shaped up. The Miller aquistion is better then most of today's trades. I will say that the team made one horrible mistake in the offseason. If that one signing went the way I wanted, we still wouldn't be making a deal, but we would have had far more points in the boxscore.

[RedWingAbner 13]

When was the last time Sutter took someone with the 210th pick in the entry draft and that player became one of the best players in the league?

Stop cherry-picking.

I'm not. Trying to find rationale like yours is cherry-picking.

Regarding drafting, that's scouting, not "gm-ing."

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

LAST UPDATED (3-3-2010, 2:59 PM ET)

March 3, 2010

Washington Acquires: (D) Milan Jurcina

Columbus Acquires: 6th-Round Pick

[Carman 387]

I agree with the first statement, but I think the second is up for debate.

I know better then to actually debate it, because you get alot of opinion based on emotion.

I would say that overall, I like the way the team has shaped up. The Miller aquistion is better then most of today's trades. I will say that the team made one horrible mistake in the offseason. If that one signing went the way I wanted, we still wouldn't be making a deal, but we would have had far more points in the boxscore.

Is it really up for debate? I mean just look at the man games lost.

It's not like that number can be changed based on perspective...

[RedWingAbner 13]

If this is all that happened, I am partly encouraged by the fact that our Western rivals didn't do much.

[stillwater 186]

When was the last time a Sutter "gm-ed" team won the Stanley Cup?

[Marty Barry 230]

Fred Modin from C-bus to LA. Maybe not done in time.

[Trapt1307 81]

Worst trade deadline ever. I wasn't expecting anything from the Wings, but there was nothing at all today outside of Wolski really.

[Guest Crymson]

Fred Modin from C-bus to LA. Maybe not done in time.

Often deadline deals are done before the deadline but not announced until afterward.

[dat's sick 1,002]

Worst trade deadline ever. I wasn't expecting anything from the Wings, but there was nothing at all today outside of Wolski really.

Don't really think that was unexpected when you had the Kovalchuk and Phaneuf deal just weeks before the deadline.. if those deals had been today it would have been more exciting.

[RedWingAbner 13]

When was the last time a Sutter "gm-ed" team won the Stanley Cup?

Again, it's not just a GM that makes a Cup winner. I made this point in another thread that Holland has been very lucky to A) inherit the team he did and B) have Hakan Andersson as his scout and C) have Mike Ilitch as his owner in the pre-cap world.

[edicius 3,269]

Via TFP: Freddy Modin has been traded... waiting on info.

[Shaman 713]

With some of the lower seed teams getting stronger, I am abit disappointed the wings didnt make a move today.