BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 I liked him as a person, but he just isn't a great option right now for this team. We need a real enforcer that can actually skate, shoot, punch and check. Brad May did what he could, but his time has passed. The only NHLer that really fits that criteria is Milan Lucic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 The only NHLer that really fits that criteria is Milan Lucic. Lucic is not an enforcer. He's a Grade A spotpicker. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 Lucic is not an enforcer. He's a Grade A spotpicker. Like Floyd Mayweather? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 Lucic is not an enforcer. He's a Grade A spotpicker. Who cares? I would prefer to remove the whole staged fighting out of the game anyway. Ericsson's fight was a perfect example of what it should be (I'm not talking about the fight itself but how it came to fruition). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buppy 1,720 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 Yes, you have to make dollar-for-dollar moves.....or.....make multiple moves to make your 9th-place, cap-max team a little bit better. Going into next season, what is he gonna do---- say "we can't do anything, we're at the cap" or make moves to improve the situation? I am going to lean toward the latter. Holland has grown complacent lately-- if we aren't bringing back a reclamation project (Bertuzzi, Williams-- and I am pleased with Bertuzzi's play) it's just sit back and do the bare minimum. At some point, you have to look at it and say, "well, I like these players....but it isn't working out. I might actually have to make a significant player trade." When was the last time the Red Wings did that? Stuart was picked up for draft picks...in 2008. When was the last time a decent contributor was dealt for a decent contributor? Would that be Jason Williams for Kyle Calder (and I know its a strech to call Calder a decent contributor).....but good God. Make a move, Holland. While I know this is just a thinly veiled 'trade Filppula' post, I'm going to respond as if it wasn't. Try not to let your disappointment in the way the season has gone thus far cloud your judgement. Reactionary, panic-mode change-just-for-the-sake-of-change never works. First, you're ignoring the changes that have already been made. Helm, Ericsson, Leino, Howard, Eaves, and Miller are also new this year. Not too bad considering our limited budget. Valuable roleplayers to replace our aging ones, a potential top 4 d-man, and possible goalie of the future. So Leino didn't work out, and Ericsson isn't looking too hot right now. They were still moves made with the intent on keeping the machine running. Two, without all the injuries, this year would not be so bad. Yeah, that's just speculation...but so is proposing trades. You can't say definitively that any trade we could possibly make would make any difference either. Three, we will likely have a decent amount of cap space next summer. Making trades now while hamstrung by the cap would not really be the smartest move, long term. Better to wait for the offseason when we have more options, and have had more time with a healthy team (hopefully) to evaluate where we really are, what we really need, and what we can really do. Missing the playoffs, if it happens, is not the end of the world. Think about it: Bad cap year + bad injury year + lot of new young players + some key players less effective than expected (due to age, fatigue, whatever...). Most teams, no matter the sport even, in the same situation wouldn't even be thinking of a possible playoff berth. We still have a damn good chance of making it. Says a lot about the quality of this organization. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 The only NHLer that really fits that criteria is Milan Lucic. Umm, no? I didn't say they had to score by the way. Rypien can do all those things just as a quick example. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 Umm, no? I didn't say they had to score by the way. Rypien can do all those things just as a quick example. George Parros can fit that category as well. He also gets the occasional goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 George Parros can fit that category as well. He also gets the occasional goal. he also takes the worst penalties ive ever seen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 Thanks for being one of only a few in recent history willing to routinely invite tough guys to fight you for the good of the team, May. That takes balls and I for one appreciate it. Sadly, this team just isn't good enough to have a guy like you on it at this time of year. I hope it doesn't bite them, and I hope your example inspires the rest of the wings through the rest of the season and hopefull, playoffs. Here's hoping you get to raise that Cup again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted February 13, 2010 Please either elaborate or cease with the baiting. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 Who cares? I would prefer to remove the whole staged fighting out of the game anyway. Ericsson's fight was a perfect example of what it should be (I'm not talking about the fight itself but how it came to fruition). I could say the same about your take on staged fighting. Who cares? Most fans of hockey fights like the staged fights. Every now and then someone ******* about them, unfortunately, but I think most fans don't mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest micah Report post Posted February 13, 2010 Staged fights are an important part of enforcing. Nothing says "Fear me, I'm a willing and capable fighter" more than fighting the toughest guys in the league seemingly without cause. If you notice that a guy fights Brashear for fun, you know he's willing to break your head if you mess with one of his teammates. If May weren't known as a frequesnt and willing fighter, he wouldn't have been able to prevent the cheap stuff that noted hockey experts Mike Babcock and I noticed he prevented. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 may cleared waivers per bobby macks twitter. Im sure we al knew he would Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 We'll see him again come playoff time, I reckon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SliderJeff 11 Report post Posted February 13, 2010 he also takes the worst penalties ive ever seen ... and let's not forget about his lucrative career as a Necrophiliac Bestial Pron Star by the name of "Dead Puppy Fugger". I kid. I kid. PORNSTACHE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Sources say Babcock has given him 10 days to decide between retiring or going to GR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Sources say Babcock has given him 10 days to decide between retiring or going to GR. He should use his life line and phone a friend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Just providing a link for source. http://blog.mlive.com/snapshots/2010/02/re...lears_waiv.html Per Kukla's Korner and TSN's Bob McKenzie, Red Wings forward Brad May has cleared waivers, and will spend the next week or so deciding whether he wishes to report to Grand Rapids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doc Holliday 1,888 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 (edited) I could say the same about your take on staged fighting. Who cares? Most fans of hockey fights like the staged fights. Every now and then someone ******* about them, unfortunately, but I think most fans don't mind. I don't "mind" the staged fighting but if I was out there I wouldn't want to be bothered to fight the other guys enforcer simply for a muscle flexing contest. I get it, you punch people. I would be more afraid to see the guy knock someone's head off during play and know that the next shift it could be me if I touch the puck. And I would be much more afraid to play aggressive when I know the guy is not only going to be aggressive back, but if I get too aggressive the guy is just going to drop them and try to knock my lights out. But that is just me. Micah: get over the "expert" crap. You and I both know your appeal to authority is garbage when the same authority contradicts himself when an enforcer is not in the picture. Don't misrepresent my position now. I have no problem with fighting in the NHL and believe it has its place. Such as when May went after some Colombus nobody after he was taking liberties and running the Wings. But I don't think talking to the other team's enforcer before a faceoff or during a game just to fight and show everyone that you can fight has any point to it. And I think May brought other things to the team than him being an "enforcer". Edited February 14, 2010 by Doc Holliday Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vilmer 0 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 This saddens me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zetts 236 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 This is really too bad. I think he could have been effective in the playoffs like Drake was. If we make it that is. If we had stayed healthy, I think he would have been more valuable than Miller. Actually, we probably never would have gotten Miller. The thing is, we have top 6 injuries, and Miller is capable of being plugged into a hole pretty much anywhere in the lineup. He might not score, but he can at least occupy the ice. May couldn't - he fills one specific roll, but he does it pretty well. Best of luck to you Brad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy Pred 48 337 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 I hope Brad stays and goes to mentor the kids in GR. Hopefully we'll get in the playoffs and he gets one last shot at a run with the senior team. As people have said before we need a Brad may type guy on the team, its just we need the 27yr old version. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 Hopefully he goes to GR and could be possibly called up for the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 I dont want to see him called up for the playoffs if he isnt gonna play though. Thats just kicking a guy when hes down. Grand Rapids dont need any more toughness but they could do with some leadership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted February 14, 2010 I also hope he stays.... If we do make it to the playoffs, I do hope we gets called up and plays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
